[quote]hfrogs00 wrote:
I agree that everything has a time and place in your program. But you just can’t have everything. When I lay out a plan for myself, 20 rep squats just don’t come up.[/quote]
I hope your post was supposed to be funny, cause I laughed my ass off.
Kind of like when I make out my Saturday to do list - cleaning out the garage just never makes the list.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
hfrogs00 wrote:
I agree that everything has a time and place in your program. But you just can’t have everything. When I lay out a plan for myself, 20 rep squats just don’t come up.
I hope your post was supposed to be funny, cause I laughed my ass off.
Kind of like when I make out my Saturday to do list - cleaning out the garage just never makes the list.
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Well, no it wasn’t meant to be funny, but I am glad I could brighten somebody’s day. I don’t know how else to explain it for you. What’s the big deal? 20 rep squats don’t do it for me.
Did you experience any strength gains from the program, or just hypertrophy?
I’ve done 20-rep squat sets according to the Strossen protocol (Load a weight appropriate for a set of 10, perform 20 reps by pausing and grinding 'em out) as finisher sets, but I have never done a Super Squats program.
Is there any reason to prefer the Super Squats program to a lower rep program that would afford a trainee both hypertrophy and strength (10x3, for instance)?
[quote]Ross Hunt wrote:
Those of you who like 20-rep squats:
Did you experience any strength gains from the program, or just hypertrophy?
I’ve done 20-rep squat sets according to the Strossen protocol (Load a weight appropriate for a set of 10, perform 20 reps by pausing and grinding 'em out) as finisher sets, but I have never done a Super Squats program.
Is there any reason to prefer the Super Squats program to a lower rep program that would afford a trainee both hypertrophy and strength (10x3, for instance)?[/quote]
Ross Hunt:
I have done the 20 rep squat program many times. I am always astounded at the size and strength gains that I achieve with this program. It is grueling for sure.
I have always performed higher reps and varied exercises for my abs (when I train them directly he he).
I have a question for those who have trained abs heavy with low reps. Do you find your ab size increasing along with your strength level? If so does your abdominal area look fat (for want of a better word) when it is not flexed?
I understand that for those who train for pure strength a larger mid-section is of no concern. I am just curious as to “the look” that is achieved by low reps and heavy weight for this area.
No, they don’t look fat, they look kinda solid and powerfull.Nothing like the “I wanna six pack and sharp tricep” look. More like an oak tree.It’s hard to make a comparison at this point, because there isn’t much to compaire and contrast.
Currently back onto convergent phase. i love it, leaves you ring pieced and also makes me do some gross ab movements. feel wholistically stronger, even though i do feel if you windmil/2 hand anyhow/overhead squat you get loads. maybe there is just more work capacity based on the amount of post xmas/4 month off lard.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
I have always performed higher reps and varied exercises for my abs (when I train them directly he he).
I have a question for those who have trained abs heavy with low reps. Do you find your ab size increasing along with your strength level?[/quote]
Yes - that’s the point.
Yes, but that’s because I am a fat@ss right now.
Kinda like this:
Farley: “Does this suit make me look fat?”
Spade: “No. But your face does.”
When I am reasonably lean it looks good. Think about it though - big abs allow you to look better at a higher BF%.
[quote]I understand that for those who train for pure strength a larger mid-section is of no concern. I am just curious as to “the look” that is achieved by low reps and heavy weight for this area.
Thanks for any responses![/quote]
Additionally, body structure and natural fat storage tendencies are bigger factors here. I see way more advantages to big strong abs than a narrow @ss waist.
With twenty-rep squats, you’re supposed to add five pounds per week, or per workout. It would be very odd to not get stronger.
Although someone who wants to stay in the same weight class would have a problem with the weight gain. And, a breathing squat/deadlift routine doesn’t work without eating a lot, so you really can’t have one without the other in this case.
[quote]michaelv wrote:
Re: 20-rep squats:
What programs did you guys use?
Back to abs…[/quote]
Believe it or not I don’t always follow a T-mag program every time I work out. Yes, I guess I’m being a little sarcastic. I typically follow principles I’ve learned on this site to vary my workouts. As for 20 rep squats, I do as many 20 rep squats I can do in a workout before I’m ready to puke. I’m doing this during a bulk phase and will probably do it for about 4 weeks. Then I will change it up. That is all.