I never have problems with people bothering me about what I lift etc, it’s discussions about “what do you lift” that are annoying. Every time this comes up, someone has to bring up their 400 bench press “back in the day”, or their 500 lb squat. (these comments always from people who I don’t think could top 250 in ANY lift).
[quote]sic wrote:
Sometimes though… sometimes I’d like to pick on the fatties and tease them about their diet the way they do with me. Damn political correctness bullshit.[/quote]
What if you just privately threaten them with the phrase… “would you like me to critique your eating habits?”
Maybe they will get the point?
[quote]mauser wrote:
A lot of kids at college give me shit about being so anal retentive about diet and excercise. Funny thing is, though … unlike them … I am HEALTHY. I never get sick. I don’t abuse my body for fun (Okay, occasionally during sex, but otherwise very rarely).
I do very well in school, get my 9 hours of sleep a night, and love my life. Anytime I’ve tried living ‘like that,’ I’ve felt sluggish, sick, and horrible.
The sad part is that almost all social activities people do anymore involve eating or drinking to excess. This is okay if you are bulking, I suppose 
A few posts back someone mentioned eating like a ‘regular’ person (sad, isn’t it?). Every few weeks, we go to a local restaurant that does a “Parmasaen Night” , and without fail, a fat, out of shape girl who always comes will rag on me for eating a whole plate of eggplant parm, along with a few brews and some bread. She eats like this daily, and holy hell, it shows.
… I do what I do cos I love it, and I do it for myself. If a guy thinks I’m hot, that’s a great side-effect, but really, it’s all about making the strongest, most powerful body I can - and I find that the more disciplined I am physically, the stronger I am, mentally.
I just don’t like having attention drawn to it; it makes me feel self concious as if there’s something ‘wrong’ with chowing on some fruits and chicken rather than a Biggie Meal and frosty.
People are intimidated by strength and discipline. It remidns me of something Calvin Coolidge said, "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not, nothing is more common then unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not, unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not, the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. "[/quote]
I feel you about that. It seems like college life revolves around living life as unhealthily as possible. It makes it doubley frustrating because sometimes the only way to meet people is to go out and party.
Then when I tell people I don’t drink they look at me like I’m from Mars…
I hate it. People are always saying things to me like “you should lift weights or somethin”
[quote]sic wrote:
Sometimes though… sometimes I’d like to pick on the fatties and tease them about their diet the way they do with me. Damn political correctness bullshit.[/quote]
I think that exemplifies one of the biggest problems in this country. It’s perfectly acceptable for some lard-ass to mock the eating or exercise habits of the healthy, yet when the healthy points out that the lard-ass could do with a little bit of dietary reform it’s suddenly rude and not PC. Since when has PC come to envelope conditions over which one has control.
Ok, I can understand the sensitivity to racial or religious slurs, homosexual epithets, jokes about little people, etc… And I can even understand the cases where someone has some sort of serious medical condition causing their weight problem. But if you’re just fat, lazy, and don’t care to keep yourself healthy, then you don’t deserve the protection provided by politicall correctness. Basic courtesy and civility? Sure. But if you’re criticizing others you should expect to be told you’re a fat fuck and learn to deal with it.
So go ahead sic, next time some fat, slovenly, lump of god knows what gives you shit about your eating habits, give it right back. Chances are you’ll hurt her feelings and she’ll run off and drown her sorrows in a box of donuts, but you’ll be left in peace with your 0300 tuna and spinach snack 
Screw PC,
Jay
i fight MMA & constantly turn up with grazes on my face, bruises, black eyes, limping etc. - kind of gives away im not a peace-lovin’ vegetarian hippie. still, it took 18 months for my colleagues to find out what i do - i just agreed with everyhting they suggested (i was part of a sect, i was on a date etc.)
i did & why i had to leave at specific times on specific days. they only found out, when a coach rang while i was out & left a message to the office-loudmouth, of all people, about cancelling training that night…
[quote]sic wrote:
Sometimes though… sometimes I’d like to pick on the fatties and tease them about their diet the way they do with me. Damn political correctness bullshit.[/quote]
Just smile and poke her in the belly.
As far as passing on crappy food, a couple of years ago, I had a cavity, so I came up with telling people that it hurt my teeth to have sugar, if they insisted that I try after my initial “No, thanks”. I have no idea whether sugar can actually cause tooth pain, but it always worked. Now, I just say that I don’t like sugar. The only person this doesn’t work with is my grandma, because she knows me better than that. Luckily, she’s more reasonable than most, and doesn’t get offended when I have only one or none of her cookies.
Just a question to anyone who might know…is it easy to get your meals in as a elementary teacher? I figure it is, since I can probably keep a fridge next to my desk, and there are short enough little breaks between classes, along with giving them quiet time in class to do work, and then i can eat also. Is this true?
For my “do you hit it” answer, no i do not. I don’t flaunt it, but if I have to eat, i eat. i eat a can of tuna, a cup of dry oats, and a apple in my evening class. i just make sure not to look at anyone that looks like they’re looking my way, and try and make it as passive looking as possible. everyone else is eating their junk food, so i can eat my food. everytime my roommates have girls over, they’re always like “so what meal is it now?!” it’s kind of funny actually. i don’t really mind it.
[quote]relativelyfunguy wrote:
For my “do you hit it” answer, no i do not. [/quote]
Freudian slip, right?
I mean, sure we all love to eat, but geeze…
My office is far from others. They see me carrying my shaker bottle to the water fountain to fill it (and the kitchen to rinse it), but don’t see me putting Metabolic Drive into it back at my office and chugging it. They see me eating “lunch” at 9:30, and then at lunch, but they know my wife and I wake at 3:30 to hit the gym before school, so they understand when I say I’m hungry.
But a fairly non-fit community doesn’t necessarily care to acknowledge someone who is obviously fit. I rarely get comments about my physique from my colleagues. On casual Fridays when I wear a T-shirt, I get called “Walker, Texas Ranger” by some students (a remark that annoys me on several levels, actually).
Funny thing today, though: first day of classes, all 5th and 6th graders in the Auditorium for Orientation, staff getting introduced. I get named, and another teacher turns to the kids and says “Do you watch “The Simpsons”? Ever see Groundskeeper Willy, when he rips his shirt open and he’s all ripped? That’s Mr. Shaw.”
I’m pretty sure the Middle School kids aren’t going to give me shit for the way I eat. If they do, I think I can take 'em.
I get shit all the time, and I return fire pretty aggressively. Every excuse I have a retort for, or I make one up on the spot. “We all gotta die of somethin’” Really? Well when I die, it won’t be when I’m 50, after my 3rd bypass surgery. One of my favorites is, “That looks gross.” What I feel like saying is, “Better than looking gross naked.” Usually I say,“Why? Because it’s not covered in sugar or grease?”
It gets old, but then again, idiots always do.
When I first started reading T-Nation, it was obsessively. I learned a lot, and I tried to help out my friends. No one ever listened. Probably because I was a skinny shit. Now everyone has noticed I’ve gained weight, but none of them want to gain muscle, so they don’t ask anyway.
My friends don’t give me shit, but I’m always bulking anyway, so I eat anything and everything. My parents are always on my ass, though. I try to hide as much as possible from them in order stay focused. At least they accept protein powder now.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Amsterdam Animal wrote:
Maybe Prof. I know you are a doc right? So you see patients all day. If someone was making jokes, seemingly harmless to them, about you juicing, is that something you would let go? I think you would address that. Is my work place really that much different from most people out there?
People do make jokes. Because of that, I have to realize that me going off on them or even taking those comments seriously as far as action would simply FEED the very thing I am rebelling against. That is how I am sure it works in the business world as well. You can’t act on impulse if your goal is a “career”. [/quote]
Doc or not, if I saw your big ass coming at me with a needle I’d be like ooooohhh shit…reminds me of when I used to have to get flight physicals…they used to include a prostate exam, and we once had this doc with gigunormous knuckles…everybody always tried to get the other guy, but once I signed up on the wrong day…ass ain’t never been the same, and I didn’t even get a cig.
I avoid discussion of it unless asked, except for a few friends of mine who give me respect for what I do.
Usually any conversation about training brings people to to the question ‘Do you take creatine’?, as at 5’10 and a pretty solid 200-205 I am pretty big for a high schooler, so then I answer positively they go on a lecture about how it is second only to actual steroids. I once tried to explain that creatine is just a non-radical amino acid that increases water retention but someone said ‘Yeah, but it makes your muscle bigger like steroids do, so its basically the same thing’. The statement was just so profoundly dumb that I couldn’t argue with the person any more.
Then there are the skinny guys who train like girls in the gym and eat less than any female in my family yet claim they are trying to get bigger. The argument ultimately ends with their admission that they don’t lift heavy because they don’t want to stunt their growth or they don’t want to be like a bodybuilder and get too big or some excuse along those lines that ultimately holds them back.
Any time I say if you aren’t going to lift heavy what is the point of lifting, its called lifting WEIGHTs they say ‘yea, but if you do enough reps and use perfect form it doesn’t matter’ like their trainer told them and won’t hear anything to the contrary. Also, according to them, the reason I am bigger than they are is due to genetics despite the fact that I was 135 two years ago. The same person told me that I was ‘as big as I am going to get’ when I wasn’t close to as big as I am now. Some people just invent excuses, especially high schoolers.
wow,I thought it was just here and because I was in Highschool.It’s sad that adults do the same crap.
I’ve always been smart and a fast learner,so everyone at school saw me go from 130lb skinnt fat to a 222lb “big”(i still feel and look small to myself)guy.
I told a few I was trying to gain weight and they all gasped and asked why,like I said I wanted AIDS or sumthing.Because the norm here is 130-145lbs at 5’8…I tend to stick out at 5’11 222lbs.
I bring little stuff to snack on (since I dont have a way to store anything at school),so its mostly just some trail mix,oatmeal bars,and the like.I also carry with me a 64oz jug of water.My friends call me waterjug now,i dont mind it because I know they’re teasing because they lift too.
I don’t like that girls and guys try to put me down for trying to do something I like,so I put it in perspective for them:If they play a sport I’ll ask them what they would do if I teased them about it and they say "I’d tell you to fuck…"and they realize where I’m going with it.
What really pisses me off is when a few guys who claim they workout and can bench 310lbs try to start crap with me…which the bigger I get the more I have to backdown from beating someone.
As far as the curious go,I tell them a little and take them to the gym with me once.If they come back to me the next day(I tend to put them through a good workout)I ask them what they want and when they want it by and help them get their.I’ve have written 3 programs for my friends and gave them guidelines to eat by and they do fine.
Though,I’ve tried helping girls who ask but they don’t believe me when I tell them you won’t look “mannish” unless you juice…
And I agree with Prof X,I try to avoid it because they dont understand and most of them dont want to understand.I also hate that many people ask why I wanna gain weight,because no reason I tell them(legit or bs) will make them understand.
But I also see amsterdam animals point,we shouldnt try to hide or apologize/be ashmaed of what we do.I think of it like religion,we have the right to decide what we do with our lives,no one else.
On a side note though,I am glad that so many of you share your knowledge with me so I can continue to make progress and learn more.I respect more people on this site then people I actually know,which is a sad reality.
I’ve heard every tuna joke in the book. My director refers to me - in e-mails to members of all sorts of levels of management - as Tuna Man.
I carry a cooler to work. When people ask what I have in it, I tell them “three cubic feet of cheese and stuffing”. They usually leave me alone after that one.
I realy feel that your level of developlment is key to this issue.
AA doesn’t get shit from people because he walks the walk; he looks like a heavywieght competitive bodybuilder.
I don’t look like that (yet), so I catch some flak from the civilians I asociate with. I’ve made phonomenal gains during my training life and people who’ve known me for some time never give me flak, in fact they usually ask for guidance, tips, etc…
But if you only look somewhat more muscular than average, and are lugging Tupperwere around and eating at odd times, then you simply look like a “health freak” to the average joe/joel.
In that case it’s understandable why they mock your eating habits.
[quote]dancar wrote:
There seems to be a double standard that it’s fine for women to talk among themselves about their diets and how their weightloss is going, but a skinny man eating & lifting to become more muscular is somehow vain or has other issues.
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You are incorrect. Women can only talk about these things if they are 1. unsuccessful at ‘dieting’ and ‘exercise’ and 2. if their friends are failing as well.
[quote]Soldierslim wrote:
I realy feel that your level of developlment is key to this issue.
AA doesn’t get shit from people because he walks the walk; he looks like a heavywieght competitive bodybuilder.
I don’t look like that (yet), so I catch some flak from the civilians I asociate with. I’ve made phonomenal gains during my training life and people who’ve known me for some time never give me flak, in fact they usually ask for guidance, tips, etc…
But if you only look somewhat more muscular than average, and are lugging Tupperwere around and eating at odd times, then you simply look like a “health freak” to the average joe/joel.
In that case it’s understandable why they mock your eating habits. [/quote]
AA also lives in Amsterdam so I am not sure whether the culture is exactly like it is here. Plus, he’s worked the same job for 8 years.
I think I qualify as more than “somewhat more muscular than average” and I still get comments. Most people aren’t even trying to be rude or anything, they just think it is original to make the same jokes I’ve heard 500 times already. “You’re looking kind of small there…better get to the gym” HA!! Haven’t heard that one! How original!
I don’t get anyone actually mocking my eating habits. I just get tired of the random questions over and over as every time they see a protein shake it is time to have a discussion about it.
“Is that chocolate milk?”
“No, bitch. It wasn’t chocolate milk yesterday, the day before that or the other 365 days you asked that damn question.”
All I know is, when I get older I want to move to a very fitness-conscious location…most likely somewhere metropolitan, with lots of young, fit people…Miami area for example, or somewhere similar.
My guess is that you’d get a lot less shit there where acually being in good physical shape and eating healthy are actually smiled upon, and more the norm than lots of other places.
Sorry I skirted the question. Yes, I do hide my eating habits. They really make people uncomfortable, but I don’t think I care. I’d rather have the time alone anyways.