I think it does depend on where you work. I sometimes travel on company time and get meal allowence of course. Well I had an extended 2 week stay and I bought some MRP’s and Bars for my lunches. It saved the company time and money, too my amazment they wouldn’t pay because it wasn’t “normal” food. They know full well my lifestyle and that this is “normal” for me. It wasn’t normal for the owner with the big gut so he refused. I asked him if he thinks I should eat what he wants, he said no after telling me what was normal. What an ass, oh well. I got the money back in other ways.
[quote]sic wrote:
chewie wrote:
Everyone asks: why would you want to gain weight. Annoying.
Everyone asks me why on earth I’d want to gain muscle. They tell me I look just fine the way I am. I’ve been accused of being lesbian, being on steriods, and wanting to be a man.
I am sick and tired of defending my lifestyle every time I have a new partner at work. No one can just let it go. I don’t intrude on their choices, why do they have to give their two cents about mine?[/quote]
Sic, you’re about the same size as me, and I think that’s f’ing awesome. I never checked your stats before and was very impressed.
I would get teased at school for making triple or quad layer sandwhiches for eating so much, and training hard from my friends. The thing is we both knew they weren’t able to do it, or at least the way I was and am. So them giving me a hard time was partially a compliment because that’s how teenage boys work.
Interesting way of looking at it. I have made a career here and plan on continuing to do so. I am not saying i jumped down the guy’s throat as he made the jokes. I waited for the right time and talked to him man to man. I guess the thing is that I have worked my ass off to built up my reputation in this company and the last thing I need is for some jackass to spread potential harmful comments about me, see what I mean?
I guess in a coporate environment and me being here for so long does change things. I know I was in the right even if I was juicing on my lunch break every day. HR gets involved and he could be gone for something like that.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Amsterdam Animal wrote:
Maybe Prof. I know you are a doc right? So you see patients all day. If someone was making jokes, seemingly harmless to them, about you juicing, is that something you would let go? I think you would address that. Is my work place really that much different from most people out there?
People do make jokes. Because of that, I have to realize that me going off on them or even taking those comments seriously as far as action would simply FEED the very thing I am rebelling against. That is how I am sure it works in the business world as well. You can’t act on impulse if your goal is a “career”. [/quote]
As a Firefighter much of our shift revolves around the planning, preparation and consuming of the daily ‘meal’. Food has a religous status here at work and I have been the chief cook and bottle washer at my station for the last 3 years.
In the past few months I have re-aligned my goals and am now very conscious of what I eat and am tracking everything with a food log. So that pretty much puts me out of meals around the station.
The most frustrating and annoying thing is the ammount of negative comments and feedback I am receiving over this. Like Prof X mentioned…most people hate to see others better themselves and I have seen plenty of that here.
Some are so upset that they will actually complain that I am making their meal more expensive by not participating and suggesting that I may be transferred out of the station due to this. Ironically, the main complainer is grossly overweight and his Dr. wants him to wear a blood pressure monitor to track his pressures as they are so high…The man is only 41 years old and killing himself with a fork.
One of the few advantages to being old. People pretty much write you off as a goofy old fart anyway! Not too surprising, I do still get some comments when I pass on sweets. You would think people would at least understand the importance of good nutrition to older people. Some people will just never get it.
I really don’t have that problem. I work with bunch of high-T guys like myself who, if not already working out, are seriously considering starting. One guy I work with competes in amateur contests.
It’s the people at home that I have a hard time with. Family just don’t get why I hate missing a workout, why I don’t want cookies and cake shoved in my face or why I take supplements. It’s actually a refreshing change from that.
[quote]Amsterdam Animal wrote:
I disagree, been at the same job 8+ years and everyone knows what I do. People respect my livestyle and often ask me diet related questions.
I have actually expanded my knowledge into different areas as for example, the guy in the office next to me is a top amateur triathlete guy and we talk training and food often. I have since trained some people for an iron man.
I have set up an FA network, Food Alert network and people drop food of at my desk regularly. I have a microwave on my desk, a fridge underneath it. I have got bowls, shakers, oatmeal, loaves of bread in plain sight. No one frowns upon me for what I do.
I have trained about 4-5 people in my office and started them on programs and nutrition plans. I have gotten clients through my work which means cash in my pocket.
We have a silent auction for the United Way and I auction off my personal training time and will design a program for someone. This year, the President of US Media in my office bid on it and won. I trained him and he has lost over 60lbs already on the program I have him on. People take note of that and I am now real cool with the higher ups in my company. Thats a win for me.
Sure people try to make funny comments at times and I am sure some talk behind my back but fuck em, why should I give a fuck about what they think. They know better than to give me shit to my face.
AA
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I love your attitude AA.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I honestly try to avoid discussion of it. I have learned that people actually despise anyone who can make progress where they can’t seem to. I hate comments about the protein shakes or what I am eating. This seems to be a big deal to several people here.
I often eat in my office now because of it. I can’t hide it because no one who actually has some size on them can hide that they lift weights. I expect comments when I go out, but at work, it is just annoying.[/quote]
This is the same thing I deal with. I get questions all the time and to be honest, I’m sick of answering them, so I am either extremely curt about these things or answer with a, “Yup, you are right.”
I’ve spent a lot of time working in heavy labor fields where strength is an asset, so the reaction I’ve gotten has been the opposite of most.
I’m not really surprised at that Scotty. I’m not a career FF like yourself but I’m pursuing it, and the houses I’ve been to that sit and eat together don’t seem to have much slack for that. I’ve only seen a few that have the “your on your own” mentality. Its something that actually worries me. Don’t wanna be the odd man out ya know…
There seems to be a double standard that it’s fine for women to talk among themselves about their diets and how their weightloss is going, but a skinny man eating & lifting to become more muscular is somehow vain or has other issues.
A lot of kids at college give me shit about being so anal retentive about diet and excercise. Funny thing is, though … unlike them … I am HEALTHY. I never get sick. I don’t abuse my body for fun (Okay, occasionally during sex, but otherwise very rarely).
I do very well in school, get my 9 hours of sleep a night, and love my life. Anytime I’ve tried living ‘like that,’ I’ve felt sluggish, sick, and horrible.
The sad part is that almost all social activities people do anymore involve eating or drinking to excess. This is okay if you are bulking, I suppose 
A few posts back someone mentioned eating like a ‘regular’ person (sad, isn’t it?). Every few weeks, we go to a local restaurant that does a “Parmasaen Night” , and without fail, a fat, out of shape girl who always comes will rag on me for eating a whole plate of eggplant parm, along with a few brews and some bread. She eats like this daily, and holy hell, it shows.
… I do what I do cos I love it, and I do it for myself. If a guy thinks I’m hot, that’s a great side-effect, but really, it’s all about making the strongest, most powerful body I can - and I find that the more disciplined I am physically, the stronger I am, mentally.
I just don’t like having attention drawn to it; it makes me feel self concious as if there’s something ‘wrong’ with chowing on some fruits and chicken rather than a Biggie Meal and frosty.
People are intimidated by strength and discipline. It remidns me of something Calvin Coolidge said, "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not, nothing is more common then unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not, unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not, the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. "
[quote]mauser wrote:
A lot of kids at college give me shit about being so anal retentive about diet and excercise. Funny thing is, though … unlike them … I am HEALTHY. I never get sick. I don’t abuse my body for fun (Okay, occasionally during sex, but otherwise very rarely).
I do very well in school, get my 9 hours of sleep a night, and love my life. Anytime I’ve tried living ‘like that,’ I’ve felt sluggish, sick, and horrible.
The sad part is that almost all social activities people do anymore involve eating or drinking to excess. This is okay if you are bulking, I suppose
A few posts back someone mentioned eating like a ‘regular’ person (sad, isn’t it?). Every few weeks, we go to a local restaurant that does a “Parmasaen Night” , and without fail, a fat, out of shape girl who always comes will rag on me for eating a whole plate of eggplant parm, along with a few brews and some bread. She eats like this daily, and holy hell, it shows.
… I do what I do cos I love it, and I do it for myself. If a guy thinks I’m hot, that’s a great side-effect, but really, it’s all about making the strongest, most powerful body I can - and I find that the more disciplined I am physically, the stronger I am, mentally.
I just don’t like having attention drawn to it; it makes me feel self concious as if there’s something ‘wrong’ with chowing on some fruits and chicken rather than a Biggie Meal and frosty.
People are intimidated by strength and discipline. It remidns me of something Calvin Coolidge said, "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not, nothing is more common then unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not, unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not, the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. "[/quote]
Great post Mauser.
B.
I hate when people comment on what I eat. It bothers the fuck out of me. Whether it’s my temporary roommate commenting on the amount of eggs I eat or my coworkers apologizing for what I am eating.
It seems everyone pretty much takes their cues from everyone else. If you have a hamburger then you must have fries, if you have a sandwich you must have chips…it’s all very contrived. I’ve gotten to the point where I avoid eating near people so I don’t have to tactfully avoid their comments.
After getting sick of the comments on my diet I just tease people. I asked my roommate if he wanted an 8 egg white omelet only to get the defensive reply-
“We(his girlfried) do only 2 eggs.”
How gastronomically moderate-yet you still look like shit.
[quote]dancar wrote:
There seems to be a double standard that it’s fine for women to talk among themselves about their diets and how their weightloss is going, but a skinny man eating & lifting to become more muscular is somehow vain or has other issues.
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Women in general obsess with dieting and their looks for an entire lifetime. These same women will then label a guy who lifts weights and SHOWS IT as being self centered. It isn’t just a double standard, it’s pure hypocrisy.
I think you are hot.
[quote]mauser wrote:
A lot of kids at college give me shit about being so anal retentive about diet and excercise. Funny thing is, though … unlike them … I am HEALTHY. I never get sick. I don’t abuse my body for fun (Okay, occasionally during sex, but otherwise very rarely).
I do very well in school, get my 9 hours of sleep a night, and love my life. Anytime I’ve tried living ‘like that,’ I’ve felt sluggish, sick, and horrible.
The sad part is that almost all social activities people do anymore involve eating or drinking to excess. This is okay if you are bulking, I suppose
A few posts back someone mentioned eating like a ‘regular’ person (sad, isn’t it?). Every few weeks, we go to a local restaurant that does a “Parmasaen Night” , and without fail, a fat, out of shape girl who always comes will rag on me for eating a whole plate of eggplant parm, along with a few brews and some bread. She eats like this daily, and holy hell, it shows.
… I do what I do cos I love it, and I do it for myself. If a guy thinks I’m hot, that’s a great side-effect, but really, it’s all about making the strongest, most powerful body I can - and I find that the more disciplined I am physically, the stronger I am, mentally.
I just don’t like having attention drawn to it; it makes me feel self concious as if there’s something ‘wrong’ with chowing on some fruits and chicken rather than a Biggie Meal and frosty.
People are intimidated by strength and discipline. It remidns me of something Calvin Coolidge said, "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not, nothing is more common then unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not, unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not, the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. "[/quote]
[quote]Amsterdam Animal wrote:
I think you are hot.
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Looking for a green card? (Teehee)…Thanks, though. Good motivation to load up the bar extra heavy tonight when I go for squats !!
Haha, I already have a green card. The point that I am sure many T-men will share is thats its nice to hear some vixens chime in with that attitude. I did not even see a pic but did not need to
[quote]mauser wrote:
Amsterdam Animal wrote:
I think you are hot.
Looking for a green card? (Teehee)…Thanks, though. Good motivation to load up the bar extra heavy tonight when I go for squats !! :)[/quote]
[quote]Amsterdam Animal wrote:
Haha, I already have a green card. The point that I am sure many T-men will share is thats its nice to hear some vixens chime in with that attitude. I did not even see a pic but did not need to
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Really. She eats, lifts and has an attitude… there’s more?
I think it is particularly obvious to my coworkers because we are together for 24 hours a day, three days a week. They see me lugging my gallon of water around. They see my second and third breakfast, my two lunches and three dinners. They also see me eat every time we come back from a call, even if it is 0300 because I won’t go to bed hungry.
We all share the same quarters and sleep in the same bunk room. No real privacy. They are getting used to it though. I’m not changing for them and could care less if they change because of me. I’m not making it my life’s goal to convert others to my lifestyle if they don’t want it for themselves.
Sometimes though… sometimes I’d like to pick on the fatties and tease them about their diet the way they do with me. Damn political correctness bullshit.