[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Monday: AM: chest/shoulders PM: (5 hrs later) triceps/biceps/calves
Tuesday: deadlift/quads/hamstrings
Wednesday: back/calves
And repeat[/quote]
Daaaammmnn, and you don’t take days off either right? I figured that you put your work in at the gym, but that much frequency is nearly unbelievable.
Nice job[/quote]
Don’t forget cardio every morning 
Hmmm. I was never much interested in twice-daily training… But you know… With a high frequency and a 2 or 3-way, it’s kind of annyoing having to do all those bodyparts/exercises in one session… Later exercises really suffer, wrists get tired and my shoulders don’t like doing multiple pressing angles (i.e. overhead and flat together) in one session…
Some authors on here usually recommend training the same muscle-groups in both sessions, but that wouldn’t fix my problems… So
Chest+Tris in the morning, Back+Bis in the evening or back+bis morning, delts evening or so sounds like it might work well…
must resist trying out new routines again haha
For example, training with a 3-way over 6 days, I never really know where to put shoulders.
If I have a chest+delt+tri day, overhead presses are usually out because then they bother my shoulders… And very heavy laterals take their toll on my wrists (no pain, but they tire them out) etc, and I end up weak on my tricep work…
If I combine it with back+bis like Ronnie does/did, then it’s too many exercises in one day…
Can’t combine with legs, overhead work and squats the same day… My shoulders don’t like that.
But if I were to do back+bis in the morning and delts in the evening or so… That might work fine… Or maybe delts+back, then bis in the evening…
rambleramble
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Hmmm. I was never much interested in twice-daily training… But you know… With a high frequency and a 2 or 3-way, it’s kind of annyoing having to do all those bodyparts/exercises in one session… Later exercises really suffer, wrists get tired and my shoulders don’t like doing multiple pressing angles (i.e. overhead and flat together) in one session…
Some authors on here usually recommend training the same muscle-groups in both sessions, but that wouldn’t fix my problems… So
Chest+Tris in the morning, Back+Bis in the evening or back+bis morning, delts evening or so sounds like it might work well…
must resist trying out new routines again haha
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I love it, I also eat twice as much on that day, literally. I feel like constantly having a very high caloric intake will lead to unnecessary fat gain but one or two days a week with a shit ton of calories and 2x training sessions along with DC style cardio everyday keeps that fat gain in check and lets muscle grow quickly!
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Hmmm. I was never much interested in twice-daily training… But you know… With a high frequency and a 2 or 3-way, it’s kind of annyoing having to do all those bodyparts/exercises in one session… Later exercises really suffer, wrists get tired and my shoulders don’t like doing multiple pressing angles (i.e. overhead and flat together) in one session…
Some authors on here usually recommend training the same muscle-groups in both sessions, but that wouldn’t fix my problems… So
Chest+Tris in the morning, Back+Bis in the evening or back+bis morning, delts evening or so sounds like it might work well…
must resist trying out new routines again haha
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I love it, I also eat twice as much on that day, literally. I feel like constantly having a very high caloric intake will lead to unnecessary fat gain but one or two days a week with a shit ton of calories and 2x training sessions along with DC style cardio everyday keeps that fat gain in check and lets muscle grow quickly![/quote]
Hmm. If I eat just a bit above maintenance, my strength doesn’t increase fast at all and goes up and down all the time… And I put on fat (albeit slowly)… Same for people I used to train…
With the right routine and a major intake of calories (plus some cardio), strength gains usually take off and most of the weight put on ends up being muscle… Most of the fat I carried at 300+ lbs was accumulated during a few specific periods where strength gains were low and I was actually eating less than usual…
Okay, totally overeating would probably put on the fat as well, but I’m not capable of that anyway, my metabolism is still somewhat too fast and my appetite too low for that…
That’s with no gear of course… I dunno how that would change the equation.
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Hmmm. I was never much interested in twice-daily training… But you know… With a high frequency and a 2 or 3-way, it’s kind of annyoing having to do all those bodyparts/exercises in one session… Later exercises really suffer, wrists get tired and my shoulders don’t like doing multiple pressing angles (i.e. overhead and flat together) in one session…
Some authors on here usually recommend training the same muscle-groups in both sessions, but that wouldn’t fix my problems… So
Chest+Tris in the morning, Back+Bis in the evening or back+bis morning, delts evening or so sounds like it might work well…
must resist trying out new routines again haha
[/quote]
I love it, I also eat twice as much on that day, literally. I feel like constantly having a very high caloric intake will lead to unnecessary fat gain but one or two days a week with a shit ton of calories and 2x training sessions along with DC style cardio everyday keeps that fat gain in check and lets muscle grow quickly![/quote]
Hmm. If I eat just a bit above maintenance, my strength doesn’t increase fast at all and goes up and down all the time… And I put on fat (albeit slowly)… Same for people I used to train…
With the right routine and a major intake of calories (plus some cardio), strength gains usually take off and most of the weight put on ends up being muscle… Most of the fat I carried at 300+ lbs was accumulated during a few specific periods where strength gains were low and I was actually eating less than usual…
Okay, totally overeating would probably put on the fat as well, but I’m not capable of that anyway, my metabolism is still somewhat too fast and my appetite too low for that…
That’s with no gear of course… I dunno how that would change the equation.
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No arguing with that, I’m looking at doing a show in a year though so I don’t want to get really really heavy. The heaviest I’d want to get over this next year is 270, after I compete though I’ll take a year or 2 off and break that 300 barrier doing exactly what you mentioned.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Hmmm. I was never much interested in twice-daily training… But you know… With a high frequency and a 2 or 3-way, it’s kind of annyoing having to do all those bodyparts/exercises in one session… Later exercises really suffer, wrists get tired and my shoulders don’t like doing multiple pressing angles (i.e. overhead and flat together) in one session…
Some authors on here usually recommend training the same muscle-groups in both sessions, but that wouldn’t fix my problems… So
Chest+Tris in the morning, Back+Bis in the evening or back+bis morning, delts evening or so sounds like it might work well…
must resist trying out new routines again haha
[/quote]
I love it, I also eat twice as much on that day, literally. I feel like constantly having a very high caloric intake will lead to unnecessary fat gain but one or two days a week with a shit ton of calories and 2x training sessions along with DC style cardio everyday keeps that fat gain in check and lets muscle grow quickly![/quote]
Hmm. If I eat just a bit above maintenance, my strength doesn’t increase fast at all and goes up and down all the time… And I put on fat (albeit slowly)… Same for people I used to train…
With the right routine and a major intake of calories (plus some cardio), strength gains usually take off and most of the weight put on ends up being muscle… Most of the fat I carried at 300+ lbs was accumulated during a few specific periods where strength gains were low and I was actually eating less than usual…
Okay, totally overeating would probably put on the fat as well, but I’m not capable of that anyway, my metabolism is still somewhat too fast and my appetite too low for that…
That’s with no gear of course… I dunno how that would change the equation.
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No arguing with that, I’m looking at doing a show in a year though so I don’t want to get really really heavy. The heaviest I’d want to get over this next year is 270, after I compete though I’ll take a year or 2 off and break that 300 barrier doing exactly what you mentioned.[/quote]
Good luck brother.
Picked a specific show yet?
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Hmmm. I was never much interested in twice-daily training… But you know… With a high frequency and a 2 or 3-way, it’s kind of annyoing having to do all those bodyparts/exercises in one session… Later exercises really suffer, wrists get tired and my shoulders don’t like doing multiple pressing angles (i.e. overhead and flat together) in one session…
Some authors on here usually recommend training the same muscle-groups in both sessions, but that wouldn’t fix my problems… So
Chest+Tris in the morning, Back+Bis in the evening or back+bis morning, delts evening or so sounds like it might work well…
must resist trying out new routines again haha
[/quote]
I love it, I also eat twice as much on that day, literally. I feel like constantly having a very high caloric intake will lead to unnecessary fat gain but one or two days a week with a shit ton of calories and 2x training sessions along with DC style cardio everyday keeps that fat gain in check and lets muscle grow quickly![/quote]
Hmm. If I eat just a bit above maintenance, my strength doesn’t increase fast at all and goes up and down all the time… And I put on fat (albeit slowly)… Same for people I used to train…
With the right routine and a major intake of calories (plus some cardio), strength gains usually take off and most of the weight put on ends up being muscle… Most of the fat I carried at 300+ lbs was accumulated during a few specific periods where strength gains were low and I was actually eating less than usual…
Okay, totally overeating would probably put on the fat as well, but I’m not capable of that anyway, my metabolism is still somewhat too fast and my appetite too low for that…
That’s with no gear of course… I dunno how that would change the equation.
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No arguing with that, I’m looking at doing a show in a year though so I don’t want to get really really heavy. The heaviest I’d want to get over this next year is 270, after I compete though I’ll take a year or 2 off and break that 300 barrier doing exactly what you mentioned.[/quote]
Good luck brother.
Picked a specific show yet? [/quote]
Likely the 2011 Knox Classic here in TN, August 8th. It’s a national qualifier so the goal is to come in well enough to qualify for nationals and then shoot for Jr Nats 2-3 yrs after that. This really all depends on where/how I want to approach the whole gear issue though so those time frames could change.
biceps, calves abdominals and forearms delts recovery fast I do believe since you constantly use your biceps calves in daily living as well as your abdominals and forearms you use these body parts everyday and if your in construction or have a physical job it’s how your body adjusts to what you do at work and in the gym…