Wait. What happens then? Do you STOP doing whatever you damn well please? I expect to grow even more direct and ready to challenge absurdity.
Judging by how a difference of opinion gets treated, you’d think I’m loading Jews into an oven instead of continuing to be a conservative even though Donald Trump is now president. As if I’m simply crazy for not becoming a Democrat because Trump was elected. I don’t understand the broader thought process beyond “Orange Man Bad”, but that’s part of what makes engaging with it amusing.
“I can’t believe you haven’t completely re-thought your ideas about the role of government in the last 3 years. Don’t you follow Trump’s Twitter? Conservatives are such hypocrites, and they hate dancing college girls”
Meanwhile, you can say whatever you want about Trump, anyone who fails to denounce everything about Trump, and even make things up in your head, and all of those ideas go unchallenged. As soon as someone comes along and says, “hey, you can’t judge people on imaginary actions that never took place”, the knives come out. You can’t even ask someone to name an actual person if they put forward a stereotype or narrative. Basic questions like who, what, and why turn into a multi-post back-and-forth to move the goal post somehow.
That’s amusing to me. At least in a pandemic, where my standards for amusement are lower.
Speaking more broadly, so many people have lost the assumption of good faith, let alone the ability to converse in good faith. This affects me in real life, where my white upper middle class sister in-law is having what I can only describe as Harriet Tubman fantasies about herself. As if there is a connection between her personal social media activity and real world outcomes in violent situations involving police. Good luck asking her to explain that connection and stay on the mailing list for niece pictures over Christmas.
I don’t even think many in that thread understood the good faith concept. It is practically alien in 2020. You’ll never bother to understand someone else’s point of view if you think they’re a terrible person, and you’ll never get past your own limited thinking if you can’t see past your own nose. It isn’t like understanding a conservative view takes a lot of legwork. I don’t expect everyone to agree with me on everything, but if you can’t understand a good faith position then the problem is with you, not the other person.
Oddly enough, the conversation over there seems to have shifted to training. Apparently even anonymous internet political posters who never post about training are here for training first, politics second.
It could be fun to attempt to argue like a modern liberal, but there aren’t many conservatives who are willing to engage. Gee, I wonder why? Who wouldn’t want to talk politics in a room like that?
On one hand, arguing like a liberal is easy. Just rip on Trump and you’ll get plenty to agree with you. That’s laughably easy. The bigger challenge for me would be defending the Democrat’s policies, which is why nobody ever wants to talk policy. It would also be very hard to keep it serious when discussing policies, because so many are patently absurd.
How do I keep a straight face and not drip with sarcasm when discussing the merits of Biden’s stated policy goals? That could be fun.
Who knows? Work from home keeps getting extended and I still can’t train jiu jitsu, can’t lift barbells, can’t go to restaurants and my kid is starting a full-time job today, so I’ve got LOTS of time. Maybe I’ll pretend to find their arguments convincing and start taking them to their logical conclusions. Maybe I’ll swing that goddamn kettlebell some more.
For now I’ll let the group get back to high-fiving each other, because they know what Trump is really thinking, what Trump is really doing and where the policy decisions are taking society. Someone else can come along and provide superficial scrutiny to their ideas and get mobbed because of it.
/rant over.