Thanks. Likewise.
1 Like
I get that. Judges are required to rate gymnastics, diving, synchronized swimming, ice skating, some snow skiing events, etc. competitors. All spectator sports are competitive. Gymnastics is extremely competitive. It is difficult for me to not classify gymnastics as a sport, solely because it is “judged” based on a standard. The arenas are packed to see gymnastic competitions. I assure you that all there believe it is a sport. No matter how you look at it, it is a competitive athletic event.
If you want to split hairs over gymnastics being a sport, you a surely entitled to do so. Having piddled in some gymnastic tricks, I cannot see it that way.
Just before and at the start of my weightlifting I played “Add-a-Trick” on the trampoline with our college’s best diver. I know that was a sport. BTW, I believe I beat him only once. It would have been refereed and not judged to determine the winner. No style points.
You seem to think I owe you some form of response to everything you say.
You stated that violence is an appropriate response to an opinion that you dont like, and have now rationalized it by saying “who doesnt get threatened with violence?” and “just dont go there.”
Quite the measured response you’ve given.
1 Like
Who are you again? You used to be a poster here?
Welcome back.
I never wanted you suspended, and I’m not sure who initiated it, but it wasn’t me.
I know you never threatened anything.
1 Like
I’m not the god of sports, so I’m cool with other definitions.
1 Like
I’ve been wanting to get in touch with you about your car insurance…
Thanks. 
Its bygone at this point.
So…
How bout them huevos you moth@*…
1 Like
No, the ex’s sister was perpetuating a cycle of false hope without any real effort for change. It was a weird and sick cycle of self-letdown to feel the high of “trying” again. But thanks for the reframe.
I understand andrewgens take as well, now that the actual context is being shared. Gym etiquette has really gone down hill over the last ten or so years, and getting instagrammers to move their fucking asses out of the squat rack so it can be used for its actual purpose, as one example, is commendable.
1 Like
I wonder how many semi serious lifters lift bc they “flunked” out of other “”real”” sports
That’s an interesting perspective. Reminds me of Eastbound & Down for some reason.
Anecdotally, sports turned me on to weight lifting. My “career” ended after high school, unless college intramurals count. So I guess I technically flunked as I didn’t play college or pro.
I continued lifting weights, though. Small but important twist I think. I enjoyed the strength and physique that came with it, and later the health benefits.
I doubt many people play sports until they can’t compete and then start lifting as compensation if that’s the angle, however.
3 Likes
I was more getting at: “I did sports, picked up lifting, realised that I was better at lifting than the actual sport I was lifting for”
1 Like
Ah. I’ve seen this with track and field guys. Primarily “field”.
1 Like
I got into lifting bc we occasionally did strength training for cross country and I I could lift more than all the other girls (and some of the guys) despite being the smallest person
2 Likes
I view weightlifting like an element, and applying it to a sport like using the parts to build a specific molecule. Do you want to go elemental or sports or athletic? All are fine.
I tried a bunch of things and disliked most of them, but lifting has resonated.
But then again, there is the trope of guys in the gym still talking about how they peaked in high-school.
Edit @Njord I was a track and field guy. So maybe you’re on to something. Now I don’t run unless the cops are after me.
1 Like
I fixed your quote to keep it diverse.
Interestingly, insurance does not view it this way. Or didn’t, prior to ACA when rating risks were relevant. You were penalized or even rejected for being obese, not for riding motorcycles. Still true for life insurance, with a handful of clauses excluding the specific activity of racing motorcycles.
I’m going to go with statisticians, underwriters and actuarial measures of risk in relation to covering a pool over a handful of people who can’t determine the difference between self-infliction and a not at fault accident.
It’s been fun though.
As an aside, please show me a confirmable example of an obese person who is not on at least one life preserving medication, or doesn’t have one recommended that they are just ignoring.
1 Like
A very close friend was a D1 shot put guy at a major university, turned down an option for the Olympic trials to start a lucrative career in oil&gas and is now a pretty amazing powerlifter. Raw strength in either case, different method of measurement. It’s a logical crossover I suppose.
1 Like
Trick question, they all died from Covid.
2 Likes
I sympathize with @Andrewgen_Receptors being a serious lifter and dealing with the current gym etiquette. Absolutely none of the T-Nation, apart from a very few, experienced the gym “pecking order” of the 1970’s and 1980’s at the dead serious gyms. You didn’t need to spend more than 5 minutes in the gym and you knew where stood in the “pecking order.” We had one squat rack in the gym. If the 500+lb squatters came in the gym to squat, you were done with the squat rack. I know, today, this seems primeval. But you always had a choice: Comply or maybe this gym was not for you. By the 1980’s there were plenty of gym options, all the rest were the kinder, gentler gyms. So, there is that, if your feelings are a little hurt.
1 Like
Good faith?
You can’t un-ring the bell you proudly rang to start this topic. Don’t weasel away from your own words by suggesting my response to you is in bad faith.
You lack the balls to ever say such a thing to anyone in person, which is unsurprising from someone with artificial balls.
1 Like
No hate for them to be honest as I have my own battles with weight, and sometimes it’s hard not to get a little frustrated when we see someone we care about making choices that could impact their health and well-being.
1 Like