I read that DNP is supposed to not mess up with hormones except for T4 to T3 conversion, according to my research (contradicted info though).
I finished a 22 days pyramide cycle of low to medium dose DNP powder- 200mg to 600 and down to 200 again. The problem is that I noticed estrogenic-like sides and found my self extremely sensitive:
I noticed being extremely sentimental and found very hard to hold back my outbreaks, tearing at times without significant reason (worse than my aunt!)
Smiling/Laughing with little reason without stopping. Wanted to punch myself in the face for that.
When starting eating/drinking anything, anytime of the day I experienced pain at my saliva glands.
Libido went through the roof! My erections were harder than ever and not easy to go down. The bad is that I had unexpecting boners anytime without stimulus.
Note that:
The only drugs I used were Albuterol and ketotifen at moderate doses (12mg and 2mg respectevily).
Supplements taken with DNP were:
Glycerol liquid - 10g 3x /day
Pyruvate - 4-6g /day
Vitamin C 1g x3 /day
Vitamin E - 1000IU/day
ALA 900mg /day
Magnesium - 1500mg /day
Calcium - 3000mg/day NOT with Mag
Potassium - 300mg/ day
I didn’t see any results for the first 18 days other than the sides (fat calipers, body tape, scale) until I bumped the dose and overnight lost 2.5 Kg and 2.2cm waist (after puking for a few hours).
Now I am about to enter my 2nd cycle on DNP. Is anyone knowledgeable of these kind of sides assosiated with DNP? Can they be androgenic/estrogenic?
Thanks in advance and my apologies for the screed.
I suggest you wait for a viable response. I don’t know of many members that have used it due to its high risk factor. All I can say is that stuff is not something you wanna take lightly…anyway. There are a few threads regarding DNP…search for them while you’re still waiting for a viable answer. In the meantime I wish you best of luck.
EDIT: Seems like something Senor Roberts would be able to reply
Firstly it is not used for 22 days at a time… more like 5.
Secondly there was no sweating mentioned and this has to be the number one side it produces.
Thirdly your sides seem totally on par with the intake of estradiol tablets or some other female hormone.
You should realise that if ANYONE pukes for a number of hours, they will drop a hell of a lot of weight and size in water… kilos of weight and inches from girth measurements. Anyone.
You are looking to run this again? Even if it were DNP, which i doubt HIGHLY (estrogenic fat deposits and water retention??? You fucking kidding me?) why in gods name would you want to repeat this experience.
Maybe it was a good job someone gave you the female contraceptive pill instead of DNP, as if i knew you were planning on adding clen to a 22 day cycle then i think i’d have done the same! ou are really stupid.
Consider yourself lucky you are still alive and not a boil in the bag meat product.
I think I asked if anyone is knowledgeable. You make conclusions without having enough info.
If you have doubts about something ask me first then flame me.
First, of all it surely is DNP. It is in powder form from a legit supplier in 50 grams bags. I filled/weighed the capsules myself using a high accuracy scale. I used it for three more cycles (15, 7 and 20 days each) after the one mentioned above with much greater results.
It stains anything yellow (it even stained my fingertips/nails across the (triple) latex gloves I was using it making it).
I didn’t mention the heat/dry throat/lethargy because I wanted to focus on the estro-like sides I had, beign DNP the culprit or not.
Brook it is someone’s choice whether to use DNP for a blitz 5 day cycle (high dosage) or a long one (lower dosage). I used powder which is less of an impact, so the dosage was low (600mg peak, which is approximately equivalent to 300mg crystal).
Westclock mentioned “stop mixing albuterol with DNP”. I am an asthmatic so the DNP induced bronchoconstriction would be a bad thing for me, especially if attempting to do cardio or HIIT. Wathing my sodium intake and taking anti-cramp supplements helped (taurine, magnesium, potassium) to keep off the albuterol induced cramps. ECA/ECY might be a better choice to combat lethargy though. 200-400mg caffeine alone is enough for me in this regard.
Now to explain the weight loss. Yes it was water. DNP retents water. I lost fat, but it was the water that made me unable to spot the fat loss. When I made the mistake of not eating enough, I got hypoglycemic (DNP lowers blood sugar) and/or had an electrolyte imbalance, that made me puke. Lost the water and finally saw the “hidden” fat loss. Though I must confess it was an unorthodox way of doing so.
Allow me to return to the subject. I will never be sure what was the cause for most of the sides I had. AAS stopped two months before starting DNP. Had a normal PCT without sides, or muscle loss. Sides started about a week after the initial dose of DNP. Never had them again though, but the salivary gland pain occured again in my other DNP cycles. That is my main inquiry right now.
Please if someone EXPERIENCED any of the above sides, I 'd be glad to hear your opinions on the matter.
