DLing 315 IS Inspirational!

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[quote]anchilor wrote:

Overall, my standards for being “impressive” are 225 for benching (2 45’s on each side), 275 for squatting (2 45’s and 2 25’s on each side) and 315 for deadlifting (3 45’s on each side). With those numbers comes a good looking body, plus that number of plates simply looks good on the bar.

Your standards for “impressive” are quite low. I was able to bench 195 and squat 295 when I weighed 125.

That being said, is there a need to progress past your “impressive” numbers if you’re not a powerlifter or are an elite athlete? For the most part, I’d venture to say the answer is no.

[/quote]I have a hard time believing the 195 lb bench at a body weight of 125. Was it dumbbell bench?

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[quote]KingLeonidas wrote:
I hit 315 my first time on DL at 16 y/o 175lbs.
3 years of bustin’ my balls in the weight room later, I can pull twice that naked, while getting a hummer.

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DLing while getting a hummer strikes me as dangerous for both parties. Perhaps benching would be better.

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hey guys,

I have a question, how do you guys handle the grip? I mean, I can DL 315 for example, but I’m having trouble going higher because my grip doesn’t hold up. This is especially a problem when the reps and sets go up.

Before I thought that my hands would get used to the weight as I progressively went heavier, but it’s definitely lagging. I’m thinking of throwing in some exercises to help in that area to do at the end of my workouts, but I’m wondering if anyone had any additional suggestions.

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genetics dont mean squat.the only thing that matters is hard work and hard balls.

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CT replied once and he mentioned …

a) heavy holds (max weight for 6-12 sec)
b) moderate holds for time (sets of 30-60 sec)
c) various dnamic gripping exercises (pinch grip, captain of crush grippers, etc.)
d) Various form of forearm dominant curl (wrist curls, thick bar curls, hammer curl, reverse curl, etc.)
e) NEVER using straps on pulling exercises

I’ve also found really pushing myself in curls and lateral raises fatigues and works my forearms.

Course there’s the usual forearm work you can do.

Besides that you can throw in some extra for farmer walk/powerwalks. Generally when it’s a lot emptier at the gym I’ll grab dumbells and start doing a loop around the free weight section.

  • If I can’t hold any longer I drop the weights rest for 10-15 seconds pick them up and continue the loop.
  • rerack, amp up the weight x 1.5-2 and repeat until I can’t hold anything~

Hope this helps a little, oh and I also have been using the ropes for various cable excercises to work on my grip and forearm strength, I find it helps if your forearms are already fatigued.

** oh also try using the search function - this has been discussed several times and quite a few articles are out concerning forearms - end thread hijacking.

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[quote]Evilmage wrote:
hey guys,

I have a question, how do you guys handle the grip? I mean, I can DL 315 for example, but I’m having trouble going higher because my grip doesn’t hold up. This is especially a problem when the reps and sets go up.

Before I thought that my hands would get used to the weight as I progressively went heavier, but it’s definitely lagging. I’m thinking of throwing in some exercises to help in that area to do at the end of my workouts, but I’m wondering if anyone had any additional suggestions.

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If you don’t already use chalk, use it. It will help. If you use straps, ever, STOP. Don’t ever use them if you want to improve your grip. Use an overhand grip until you can’t anymore, then switch to over/under.

There are many different exercises to improve your grip. Obviously holding onto heavy shit will help. Here is one that I like to do and has helped my grip tremendously. Pick up a set of dumbbells as heavy as you can use for 10 to 15 reps. Let them hang to your side with your palms facing in (neutral grip).

Let them roll down your fingers till just the tips of your fingers are holding them, then curl them back into your hand using only finger strength and grip tight. Do this for 3-4 sets of 10-15 reps or till failure.

Hope this helps!

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Also, does anyone find it amusing that the OP’s screen name is Higher Game?

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[quote]Evilmage wrote:
hey guys,

I have a question, how do you guys handle the grip? I mean, I can DL 315 for example, but I’m having trouble going higher because my grip doesn’t hold up. This is especially a problem when the reps and sets go up.

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I have the same problem. It is always my grip that fails.

I am thinking of getting straps for max pulls only.

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[quote]LA wrote:
My 16 y/o son squatted 275 at 120BW, about 7%BF, and he’s not impressed or satisfied. I’m more impressed with his attitude than his lifts.[/quote]

That’s nice to hear.

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[quote]Evilmage wrote:
hey guys,

I have a question, how do you guys handle the grip? I mean, I can DL 315 for example, but I’m having trouble going higher because my grip doesn’t hold up. This is especially a problem when the reps and sets go up.
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I had the same problem doing over/over. I switched to over/under, with under being my weaker hand (damned broken finger from a decade ago) and I’m still progressing in weight. Try it. Less messy and time-consuming than chalk, but this is coming from a guy who has never used 'em. :stuck_out_tongue:

When I clicked on this thread, I was hoping it would talk about somebody who was wheelchair-bound due to injury, recovered use of his legs, and deadlifted that much. How disappointed I was to find that somebody thinks that he’ll be a badass just because he can do it with 3 plates each side… for one max rep? :frowning:

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Well now i feel kinda crappy. I just hit 315 on the Dl yesterday. Although i’ve been training for 2 months and started off not being able to do 95 lbs(damn knee).

Maybee i will feel better when i hit 4 plates.

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Uhm. Your standards are quite low. I’m barely 15 years old, and I think I will be able to pull all those lifts off in a couple of months or so.

And if I am able to do that, then I expect an adult male who lifts weights to be able to do a lot more. Deadlifting 315lbs isn’t inspirational in my opinion.

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well 315 with the mixed grip is easy i could do that within the first 6 months of training. hit 405 within the first year but i stopped deadlifting with a mixed grip. now i just use double overhand grip and can only do 315 for like 5 but i feel it is alot safer for your back to use a double overhand grip

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[quote]Reyno109 wrote:
Well now i feel kinda crappy. I just hit 315 on the Dl yesterday. Although i’ve been training for 2 months and started off not being able to do 95 lbs(damn knee).

Maybee i will feel better when i hit 4 plates.[/quote]

Don’t worry, I only started doing Deadlifting this past January, 135 for 8, and now the last time I tried a PR it was 315x5 2 weeks ago. So 4 plates will come to the both of us soon.

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[quote]dyejtmagraven wrote:
well 315 with the mixed grip is easy i could do that within the first 6 months of training. hit 405 within the first year but i stopped deadlifting with a mixed grip. now i just use double overhand grip and can only do 315 for like 5 but i feel it is alot safer for your back to use a double overhand grip[/quote]

Safer how?

How you hold the bar has nothing to do with the saftey of your back. if you round your back, you round your back regardless of grip. The safety issue with a mixed grip comes in at a possible biceps tear on the underhand grip arm.

The worst a mixed grip could do to your back is cause a muscle imbalance IF you did not alternate the grip back and forth.

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[quote]Higher Game wrote:
Eric Cressey knows a lot about training and having the right attitude, and I don’t mean to be an obnoxious troll or anything, but in my opinion hitting a 315 deadlift is an amazing accomplishment, especially for those with average genetics.

I was so proud when I was first able to deadlift 225: that’s 2 plates on each side, a respectable amount of weight. I’m going to be so hyped to lift 315 (I’m at least a year away, maybe 18 months) if everything goes well. 3 plates on each side is a lot of weight by any standard, meatheads and genetic prodigies be damned. 99.9% can’t deadlift over 500, let alone 635.

I don’t want to lift a huge amount of weight just to show off. I simply want a physique that’s pleasant to look at, the whole point of bodybuilding! Lifting 315 at 5% body fat (another goal of mine) is plenty to look good naked, Brad Pitt style, and I think anything more than that is getting into the realm of obsession and potential injury. Deadlifting 315 is a huge goal and dismissing it as trivial simply isn’t true for the average lifter. I started out at 135, and am almost twice as strong as I used to be, and 315 is a big deal, period.

Overall, my standards for being “impressive” are 225 for benching (2 45’s on each side), 275 for squatting (2 45’s and 2 25’s on each side) and 315 for deadlifting (3 45’s on each side). With those numbers comes a good looking body, plus that number of plates simply looks good on the bar.

I respect others’ opinions on their ideal lifts and bodies, but I am very proud of my own goals, especially in the context of my mediocre genetics.[/quote]

You have a pathetic attitude. I’ve only trained the deadlift for 3 months, having ignorantly ignored it for years. However, at 175 pounds i pulled 400 last week. 315 is not inspirational, its merely better than most guys could do who only train upper body!

When people like you, with limited beliefs talk this sort of shit, i can see why Pavel dislikes many bodybuilders and totally agree with his theories on it being far more impressive to be strong, than simply big for the sake of it.

Anyway, as Pavel says…if you get the strength, you will get the look.

Grow some balls and get strong.

ps: i know exactly why you dont wanna get strong…cos it takes guts, and you appear to have none. But one thing i realised a long time ago is that its better to live with the pain of discipline(in this case training hard) than the pain of regret(being a weak pussy)

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[quote]Higher Game wrote:
Overall, my standards for being “impressive” are 225 for benching (2 45’s on each side), 275 for squatting (2 45’s and 2 25’s on each side) and 315 for deadlifting (3 45’s on each side). With those numbers comes a good looking body, plus that number of plates simply looks good on the bar.[/quote]

sorry to destroy your dreams, just thought i’d point out that 275 for squatting would be 2 45s and 1 25 on each side, which doesn’t look nearly as “impressive” as 2 25s on each side.

Looks like you’re going to have to get up to 325 lbs for that “impressive” squat, which may be bordering on becoming a meathead or a genetic prodigy … might have to rethink your goals.

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[quote]Higher Game wrote:
Lifting 315 at 5% body fat (another goal of mine) is plenty to look good naked, Brad Pitt style, and I think anything more than that is getting into the realm of obsession and potential injury.[/quote]

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[quote]detazathoth wrote:
Reyno109 wrote:
Well now i feel kinda crappy. I just hit 315 on the Dl yesterday. Although i’ve been training for 2 months and started off not being able to do 95 lbs(damn knee).

Maybee i will feel better when i hit 4 plates.

Don’t worry, I only started doing Deadlifting this past January, 135 for 8, and now the last time I tried a PR it was 315x5 2 weeks ago. So 4 plates will come to the both of us soon.
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Come by the Berardi seminar at Excel in a few weeks and I’ll personally coach you to 400 on the spot. Just did it for a guy at the seminar I did at Oxford University a few weeks back. It’s all about tinkering with the little things.

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I deadlifted a little last year, but broke a couple fingers, one which involved getting 3 screws put in. I just started deadlifting again last week. Last night i was easily repping 335. You will be at 315 before you know it, it really isnt that much weight