Disgusted With Olympics?

[quote]GCF wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
GCF wrote:
Fiction wrote:

Hardly racist, and for you to flip out and call names is immature at best. Saying there is nothing redeeming about the Chinese is his opinion and it’s valid. It does not constitute racism.

Are you kidding? Perhaps this is some kind of clever satirical post that I just don’t get… but I fear it isn’t. How can that post not be racist?

Let me make this really simple for you.

This is not racism:

This guy I know in China, Ming Wing, he is a real prick. He’s fat, lazy, stupid, ugly, obnoxious, rude and boring. He has no redeeming features whatsoever.

This is racist:

All Chinese people are pricks. They are fat, lazy, stupid, ugly, obnoxious, rude and boring i.e. they have no redeeming features whatsoever. White people have redeeming features and are therefore superior. (I have had to expand his post out a little bit just to make sure you get it).

As for the name calling, I hate it. People getting called names for not having the same opinion about something drives me nuts. However calling racist fuckwits names is fair game I feel. Tally ho! Perhaps we have a different opinions on that.

PS If this is still unclear for you, imagine substituting the word ‘Chinese’ in the second example for the word ‘black’ or ‘american’.

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It was in no way racist. Go be PC somewhere else. It is fair game to think poorly of a culture. I guess you can call him culturist if you want. There is a distinction. And he never said all Chinese people numb nuts he specifically said culture. Like if I said, “I don’t like Italian food.” But wait, I guess he could have said anything he wanted to bad about the Italians because they aren’t a race.

Like your example of American. People do that all the time. They are called the MSM. Just about the whole world hates on Americans, that doesn’t make them racist. What if I said I don’t like hip-hop culture? Would that make me racist?

The fact that you already started in on my race, as I am white, I feel it’s my right to go ahead and tell you to shut the hell up.

[quote]GCF wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
GCF wrote:
Fiction wrote:

Hardly racist, and for you to flip out and call names is immature at best. Saying there is nothing redeeming about the Chinese is his opinion and it’s valid. It does not constitute racism.

Are you kidding? Perhaps this is some kind of clever satirical post that I just don’t get… but I fear it isn’t. How can that post not be racist?

Let me make this really simple for you.

This is not racism:

This guy I know in China, Ming Wing, he is a real prick. He’s fat, lazy, stupid, ugly, obnoxious, rude and boring. He has no redeeming features whatsoever.

This is racist:

All Chinese people are pricks. They are fat, lazy, stupid, ugly, obnoxious, rude and boring i.e. they have no redeeming features whatsoever. White people have redeeming features and are therefore superior. (I have had to expand his post out a little bit just to make sure you get it).

As for the name calling, I hate it. People getting called names for not having the same opinion about something drives me nuts. However calling racist fuckwits names is fair game I feel. Tally ho! Perhaps we have a different opinions on that.

PS If this is still unclear for you, imagine substituting the word ‘Chinese’ in the second example for the word ‘black’ or ‘american’.

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The French, Germans, Europeans Iran…who openly hate America, and say we suck. Is that racist too? Nope.

Plus, your example extends what you were previously irritated by and you took it further.

You are overly sensitive to this issue.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
GCF wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
GCF wrote:
Fiction wrote:

Hardly racist, and for you to flip out and call names is immature at best. Saying there is nothing redeeming about the Chinese is his opinion and it’s valid. It does not constitute racism.

Are you kidding? Perhaps this is some kind of clever satirical post that I just don’t get… but I fear it isn’t. How can that post not be racist?

Let me make this really simple for you.

This is not racism:

This guy I know in China, Ming Wing, he is a real prick. He’s fat, lazy, stupid, ugly, obnoxious, rude and boring. He has no redeeming features whatsoever.

This is racist:

All Chinese people are pricks. They are fat, lazy, stupid, ugly, obnoxious, rude and boring i.e. they have no redeeming features whatsoever. White people have redeeming features and are therefore superior. (I have had to expand his post out a little bit just to make sure you get it).

As for the name calling, I hate it. People getting called names for not having the same opinion about something drives me nuts. However calling racist fuckwits names is fair game I feel. Tally ho! Perhaps we have a different opinions on that.

PS If this is still unclear for you, imagine substituting the word ‘Chinese’ in the second example for the word ‘black’ or ‘american’.

It was in no way racist. Go be PC somewhere else. It is fair game to think poorly of a culture. I guess you can call him culturist if you want. There is a distinction. And he never said all Chinese people numb nuts he specifically said culture. Like if I said, “I don’t like Italian food.” But wait, I guess he could have said anything he wanted to bad about the Italians because they aren’t a race.

Like your example of American. People do that all the time. They are called the MSM. Just about the whole world hates on Americans, that doesn’t make them racist. What if I said I don’t like hip-hop culture? Would that make me racist?

The fact that you already started in on my race, as I am white, I feel it’s my right to go ahead and tell you to shut the hell up.
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Funny as hell…I was like 10 seconds behind you on this point!

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
GCF wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
GCF wrote:
Fiction wrote:

Hardly racist, and for you to flip out and call names is immature at best. Saying there is nothing redeeming about the Chinese is his opinion and it’s valid. It does not constitute racism.

Are you kidding? Perhaps this is some kind of clever satirical post that I just don’t get… but I fear it isn’t. How can that post not be racist?

Let me make this really simple for you.

This is not racism:

This guy I know in China, Ming Wing, he is a real prick. He’s fat, lazy, stupid, ugly, obnoxious, rude and boring. He has no redeeming features whatsoever.

This is racist:

All Chinese people are pricks. They are fat, lazy, stupid, ugly, obnoxious, rude and boring i.e. they have no redeeming features whatsoever. White people have redeeming features and are therefore superior. (I have had to expand his post out a little bit just to make sure you get it).

As for the name calling, I hate it. People getting called names for not having the same opinion about something drives me nuts. However calling racist fuckwits names is fair game I feel. Tally ho! Perhaps we have a different opinions on that.

PS If this is still unclear for you, imagine substituting the word ‘Chinese’ in the second example for the word ‘black’ or ‘american’.

It was in no way racist. Go be PC somewhere else. It is fair game to think poorly of a culture. I guess you can call him culturist if you want. There is a distinction. AThere is nothing redeeming about the Chinese. Like if I said, “I don’t like Italian food.” But wait, I guess he could have said anything he wanted to bad about the Italians because they aren’t a race.

Like your example of American. People do that all the time. They are called the MSM. Just about the whole world hates on Americans, that doesn’t make them racist. What if I said I don’t like hip-hop culture? Would that make me racist?

The fact that you already started in on my race, as I am white, I feel it’s my right to go ahead and tell you to shut the hell up.
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You said “He didn’t say all Chinese numb nuts…” Actually he did:

QUOTE FROM ORIGINAL EMAIL: There is nothing redeeming about the Chinese. That is not jus tthe government, that is the people themselves.

I don’t know what MSM means but yes people who apply negative stereotypes to all Americans and believe in their own superiority are racist.

However I think you are mistaken. Being a white person from outside of America in a country where there is a lot of anti american sentiment I can say I feel that is directed at the current administration not American people in general. People I know do not agree with American foreign policy but do not hate individual Americans or blame them for what they don’t agree with in regards to the actions of their government.

No dissing hip hop culture does not make you racist. Nor does dissing Italian cuisine.

How did I start in on your race? I don’t believe I wrote anything negative about ‘white people’?

I feel it is fine to call racists names as stated in my previous post. However we simply have a disagreement of opinion i.e. I think his post was racist you do not. Calling me names for that is rather immature and I know that Rockscar agrees with me.

see my thread on the topic. I hear you loud and clear OP

[quote]Rockscar wrote:
GCF wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
GCF wrote:
Fiction wrote:

Hardly racist, and for you to flip out and call names is immature at best. Saying there is nothing redeeming about the Chinese is his opinion and it’s valid. It does not constitute racism.

Are you kidding? Perhaps this is some kind of clever satirical post that I just don’t get… but I fear it isn’t. How can that post not be racist?

Let me make this really simple for you.

This is not racism:

This guy I know in China, Ming Wing, he is a real prick. He’s fat, lazy, stupid, ugly, obnoxious, rude and boring. He has no redeeming features whatsoever.

This is racist:

All Chinese people are pricks. They are fat, lazy, stupid, ugly, obnoxious, rude and boring i.e. they have no redeeming features whatsoever. White people have redeeming features and are therefore superior. (I have had to expand his post out a little bit just to make sure you get it).

As for the name calling, I hate it. People getting called names for not having the same opinion about something drives me nuts. However calling racist fuckwits names is fair game I feel. Tally ho! Perhaps we have a different opinions on that.

PS If this is still unclear for you, imagine substituting the word ‘Chinese’ in the second example for the word ‘black’ or ‘american’.

The French, Germans, Europeans Iran…who openly hate America, and say we suck. Is that racist too? Nope.

Plus, your example extends what you were previously irritated by and you took it further.

You are overly sensitive to this issue.

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Hi Rockscar,

I responded to your first point in the post above. But yes if people apply negative ideas to an entire nation of people then yes they are being racist.

Not really sure what you mean by your second para. Yes I took his arguments further i.e. to include points I felt were implicit in his argument. What I mean is I feel most would agree that intelligence, kindness, friendliness etc… are redeeming features he said Chines people have no redeeming features therefore they display features that ppl feel are not redeeming like the ones I mentioned. I was trying to highlight the negativity and broadness of his post.

Is that what you meant?

Personally I don’t think you are being sensitive enough. I abhor racism and wish people would take a stand against it more often. Trust me, if I saw a similar post about Americans on this board I would do exactly the same thing.

[quote]AccipiterQ wrote:
see my thread on the topic. I hear you loud and clear OP [/quote]

Oh yeah sorry for the hijack but yeah I agree too. The fake fireworks don’t bother me. From my understanding they did happen but it was too dangerous to film so for TV audiences they CGI’d them in. Is that correct? If so I don’t really have an issue with that… the rest though. Yeah.

i think the whole olympics should be done naked.

not only would people not be able to cheat with there rocket shoe’s/swimming shorts, but womens events would be way more entertaining. A world record snatch would take on a whole new meaning.

ha ha. seriously though.

[quote]blazindave wrote:
etaco wrote:
Reef wrote:

Also, they shouldn’t allow the swimmers to wear that special Speedo suits that lets them swim faster. There should be standardized swimwear for everyone. It’s a slap in the face to the former world record holders.

The former world record holders wore the last special speedo suits. The world record holders before that wore the special speedos before that…
Should we go back to leather football helmets, wooden tennis rackets and swimming pantaloons?

You have to admit it’s kind of cheap though.
Whatever.[/quote]

Having just seen the women’s super heavyweight clean and jerk I can say that a naked Olympics would be a bad idea.

If you can’t hate other people for two weeks, then what’s the point of the Olympics?!

[quote]Rockscar wrote:

The French, Germans, Europeans Iran…who openly hate America, and say we suck. Is that racist too? Nope.
Plus, your example extends what you were previously irritated by and you took it further.
You are overly sensitive to this issue.

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Looks like you’re confused from reading too much crap from T-Nation’s dumbest posters, Rockscar.
Germany and the rest of Europe don’t hate America, in fact, we’re friends.
Where you ever in the aforementioned countries before? In Europe?

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

Like your example of American. People do that all the time. They are called the MSM. Just about the whole world hates on Americans, that doesn’t make them racist. What if I said I don’t like hip-hop culture? Would that make me racist?

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??? I’m American and MsM has always been really nice to me. Is there something somebody’s not telling me…?

[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Rockscar wrote:

The French, Germans, Europeans Iran…who openly hate America, and say we suck. Is that racist too? Nope.
Plus, your example extends what you were previously irritated by and you took it further.
You are overly sensitive to this issue.

Looks like you’re confused from reading too much crap from TNation’s dumbest posters, Rockscar.
Germany and the rest of Europe don’t hate America, in fact, we’re friends.
Where you ever in the aforementioned countries before? In Europe?

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Coming from one of the biggest America bashers on T-Nation. Go back to the PAWI threads to continue your rants.

I was simply pointing out that YOUR peoples views on US were NOT racist, brainiac.

[quote]Rockscar wrote:
Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Rockscar wrote:

The French, Germans, Europeans Iran…who openly hate America, and say we suck. Is that racist too? Nope.
Plus, your example extends what you were previously irritated by and you took it further.
You are overly sensitive to this issue.

Looks like you’re confused from reading too much crap from TNation’s dumbest posters, Rockscar.
Germany and the rest of Europe don’t hate America, in fact, we’re friends.
Where you ever in the aforementioned countries before? In Europe?

Coming from one of the biggest America bashers on T-Nation. Go back to the PAWI threads to continue your rants.

I was simply pointing out that YOUR peoples views on US were NOT racist, brainiac.[/quote]

a) He wrote 3 and a half lines and the asked a couple of questions. Hardly a rant.

b) I think you missed the point of his post. He was saying that based on his experience as a member of a group you singled out that your idea of how Europeans etc… view Americans is wrong. Considering he would have a lot more daily interactions with the people you are talking about than you do I would think there is a certain amount of weight behind his words.

c) Calling him names (“braniac”) is pretty immature wouldn’t you say?

[quote]GCF wrote:
Looks like you’re confused from reading too much crap from T-Nation’s dumbest posters, Rockscar.

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Really?? He gives me too much credit. I’m far dumber than he thinks. I’m from California!

[quote]Mutu wrote:
Having just seen the women’s super heavyweight clean and jerk I can say that a naked Olympics would be a bad idea.[/quote]

Well then they should just make women’s volleyball and gymnastics (for those who are legal) nude. I think that’s pretty fair.

[quote]Rockscar wrote:
Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Rockscar wrote:

The French, Germans, Europeans Iran…who openly hate America, and say we suck. Is that racist too? Nope.
Plus, your example extends what you were previously irritated by and you took it further.
You are overly sensitive to this issue.

Looks like you’re confused from reading too much crap from TNation’s dumbest posters, Rockscar.
Germany and the rest of Europe don’t hate America, in fact, we’re friends.
Where you ever in the aforementioned countries before? In Europe?

Coming from one of the biggest America bashers on T-Nation. Go back to the PAWI threads to continue your rants.

I was simply pointing out that YOUR peoples views on US were NOT racist, brainiac.[/quote]

I’m a America basher?
Priceless.

[quote]Reef wrote:
Mutu wrote:
Having just seen the women’s super heavyweight clean and jerk I can say that a naked Olympics would be a bad idea.

Well then they should just make women’s volleyball and gymnastics (for those who are legal) nude. I think that’s pretty fair.[/quote]

That is NOT fair game. You are discriminating against the super heavyweight women!! This is a blatant case of sexism, and will not be tolerated by the Olympic committee. There must be equal opportunity for nakedness, it must be gender neutral, and it must encompass all sporting events. (Special consideration for fencing is still being deliberated by the Safety subcommittee)