[quote]Dan Fouts wrote:
But still I have one hang up.
COWS.
No f*cking way did cows just happen. They taste so damned delicious that some one, some thing, some “God” MUST have put them here.
And you guys are missing it. Bah, whatever, more for me … I suppose I’ll just have to pick up the slack.
Dan[/quote]
What an intellect you are, Dan Louse. I guess all those drugs must have boosted your brain power since it did little for your physique.
Da Fruitarian, to be honest I skipped most of what you wrote but skimmed.
I agree that additives and MSG and all that other crap isn’t good for us.
However, that’s why we should buy organic and free range products. Case closed.
[quote]Pound4Pound wrote:
Da Fruitarian 1 wrote:
You obviously believe this stuff. Have you lost or gained and how much either way since starting this lifestyle. I do believe quality over quantity is better for your body and gains over the long haul.
For example I’m confident that all grains, potatoes and legumes are bad for your health and training as per the paleo diet. Can you sum up the principles behiind the fruitarian diet so I don’t have to read all that? How can you maintain/gain any muscle without protein?
Congrats on the mental disipline to eat that way too! It can’t be easy.[/quote]
To be honest with you pound 4 pound I’m in the best shape now than I have ever been! when I first started I lost a bunch of wieght but as I cleaned out and with consistant training I’ve managed to get back and surpass my original structure!
I’ve worked out for most of my life with one goal in mind…to get big and I got big but it wasn’t quality muscle, what I have now is quality plus I have my health! How can a person gain muscle without protien try it and see!
[quote]Da Fruitarian 1 wrote:
I’ve worked out for most of my life with one goal in mind…to get big and I got big but it wasn’t quality muscle[/quote]
Huh? What do you mean it wasn’t “quality muscle”?
How was it different to normal muscle?
[quote]Da Fruitarian wrote:
It’s not boring to me!
anyway what about my challenge, are you up for it?[/quote]
I have seriously contemplated different diets, including vegan. The only thing really stopping me from experimenting more is lack of structure. I cook for myself and I cook using recipies from certain websites. If I had enough decent recepies with just fruits and vegetables I may just go for it, since it’ll cost me much less. Another huge leap is giving up warm food. There’s no better feeling than a bowl of hearty soup you prepared for yourself. I live in New York after all.
[quote]Da Fruitarian 1 wrote:
America is a nation that suffers from “taste inflation.” Virtually all prepared foods in this country, whether they’re restaurant foods or convenience foods, are made with such outrageous levels of salt, sugar and MSG that they can only be called extreme foods suffering from taste inflation.
What do I mean by taste inflation? If you studied newborn babies and were able to analyze their chemical taste sensors, you’d find they were able to experience a broad range of various tastes ? the bitters in green leafy vegetables, the natural fruit sugars in apples and berries, and even the sweetness in cashews or tomatoes. But when you introduce them to standard American foods ? infant formula, and then later in life, candy bars, fast food, soft drinks, etc. ? you basically obliterate their natural taste senses, desensitizing them to the flavor subtleties found in natural foods. You end up with people who can really only taste two things: Sugar and salt. That’s why, in our country, most prepared or processed food is loaded either with one or the other.
Just go to any restaurant, especially those family chain restaurants, and try to order a bowl of soup. You mostly just get salt and MSG. There’s hardly any other flavoring in the soup, since the physical matter in there has been so overcooked that it’s just dead food with no taste subtlety remaining at all. These restaurants have to depend on salt and MSG to make these soups palatable to mainstream consumers. Personally, I can’t touch a soup made by anything other than a gourmet restaurant, and canned soups found at the grocery store are also loaded with salt. Food manufacturers are adding so much salt to everything that millions of people are suffering from hypertension.
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Well… I personally don’t think that Fruitarianism is the way to go but I certainly agree with you on this point. Food I really enjoy eating is either prepared by ME or a real gourmet chef. Food chains, convenience foods, cafeterias, etc. just know shit about seasonig and spices.
Veggies I like do not need to be cooked to death so that you can practically drink them, I like them steamed and kind of rawish inside.
I think everybody who jumped onto a healthier T-lifestyle is experiencing the same. That’s why guys who take their workouts seriously don’t score chicks primarily because of their bodies but due to their cooking skills 
Okay, at this point, I’m way too late to mention this, but I’m referencing back to whoever it was that said they didn’t eat eggs because they are basically baby chick incubators. Not all eggs are fertilized. Not to be gross, but it’s not unlike a human female “disposing” of an egg once a month.
I have seven ducks, myself, all female. I get four to seven eggs everyday (no, I don’t eat them all by myself) from them, but there’s no way in hell they are fertilized (although, ducks, like some amphibians, can re-sex themselves in single gender populations. I’m curious to see if that will happen in my “flock”, but I think I may keep that from happening by my rooster that guards the ducks. It’s a male, but the wrong species and thus can’t fertilize their eggs.)
So, uh, there.
Take it easy,
Toby
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I’ve heard of people claiming to be living off of oxygen alone. When digging deeper, they were in fact swallowing several pills a day, along with “shakes” of various sorts.
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Breatharians. Doesn’t seem to work to well for people that are actually deprived of food. Starvation happens.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
MookJong wrote:
Several posts in this thread keep claiming that humans are “designed” to eat raw food or something. Designed? Do you people know something I don’t? Who designed us? (Aliens?) Have you seen the blueprints? Can I see them too or do I need to be a grand wizard Scientologist to qualify?
Well, if you think about the beginning of man, we didn’t have ovens, microwaves, etc. And I would assume fire wasn’t discovered for quite some time.
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Fire has been around for a long time.
[quote]Da Fruitarian 1 wrote:
To be honest with you pound 4 pound I’m in the best shape now than I have ever been! when I first started I lost a bunch of wieght but as I cleaned out and with consistant training I’ve managed to get back and surpass my original structure!
… [/quote]
You don’t look big now. How much did you weigh before and how much do you weigh now?
[quote]Labyrinthine wrote:
Dan Fouts wrote:
But still I have one hang up.
COWS.
No f*cking way did cows just happen. They taste so damned delicious that some one, some thing, some “God” MUST have put them here.
And you guys are missing it. Bah, whatever, more for me … I suppose I’ll just have to pick up the slack.
Dan
What an intellect you are, Dan Louse. I guess all those drugs must have boosted your brain power since it did little for your physique.
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You registered just to post this?
Instead of cutting on Dan why don’t you show us your incredible intellect and or physique?
Why do I have the feeling this is all bullshit?
When I ate living foods (raw) I had a period of about 6 months when I ate exactly the same dish for dinner each day. I never got tired of it. Before that I had a period when I ate that dish or another dish for even longer. I.e. I alternated between two kinds of dishes.
That would not be possible with regular food. If I eat Hamburgers two times in a row one day, or hamburgers for lunch today, and the same thing tomorrow, I would be bored.
You simply have to try it to know what I mean.
Another funny thing is that when I ate meat I often became hungry, but when I ate living foods I was almost never hungry. Even though I got less protein.
I eat fish because they dont have souls you can see it in their eyes
[quote]eawhite wrote:
Impressive weights and interesting diet you have, not something I could ever do but if it works for you thats awesome.
I have a question though that anyone can answer. Is it a full rep on chin-ups if you “kick” to complete it?[/quote]
No.
Fish… hm. Just to illustrate that powerful things can happen when you change diet, I’ll tell you what happened when I ate only fruit for 10 days. I had a fish allergy. But the first meal I had after 10 days on fruit was - fish. Nothing happened. Not a single symptom. I can’t really explain it, I only have theories (totally unscientific ones). If someone here can explain it I’ll be greatful.
[quote]StJohn wrote:
Fish… hm. Just to illustrate that powerful things can happen when you change diet, I’ll tell you what happened when I ate only fruit for 10 days. I had a fish allergy. But the first meal I had after 10 days on fruit was - fish. Nothing happened. Not a single symptom. I can’t really explain it, I only have theories (totally unscientific ones). If someone here can explain it I’ll be greatful.[/quote]
Obviously some sort of witchcraft involved.
I was a bit sad when this thread died. I keep wondering where Fruitarian is, what food he’s eating, whether he’s alive or not…
Ha ha! Yeah, that would be the day…
[quote]Miserere wrote:
I was a bit sad when this thread died. I keep wondering where Fruitarian is, what food he’s eating, whether he’s alive or not…[/quote]
Heh, it was rather fitting that Zap’s post was the cap of the thread until it was brought out of hiding today.
The colon thing is truly hillarious.
-Dan