[quote]dr stig wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
The good doctor still hasn’t really helped us poor saps who use maltodextrin. So, I will try one more time.
Maltodextrine that is derived from corn starch - is it high GI or low GI? How close is it to dextrose?
And, anyone else can answer as well.
Most of the time Maltodextrin will be sourced from Corn starch but also rice and potato sources are viable alternatives. Giving all Maltodextrin one GI rating is pretty much ignorant. Its a myth that pretty much needs stomping on.
You have basically two major factors in the eventual GI of the product, this is primarily the source but also the processing techniques.
Some Maltodextrin sources are also blends. As I mentioned before some low GI stuff (I think made from spuds) is lower GI than Corn Starch.
But the processing techniques used are had to discover. Usually any ingredients dec will say ‘maltodextrin’. So I can’t recc a particular type as you’d be going straight to the manufacturer and demanding the source and manuf process to work out what it originated as, and how it was made.
So in other words, just use whatever maltodextrin you can get and add something to it like dextrose if you are worried the GI might be too low.
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Thanks doc. I move my dextrose/malto mix to 50/50 for PWO, and call it a day.
What you eat before the workout in my mind seems to have more importance to what you eat after. Hence I pay quite a bit of attention to pre-workout and just eat two tins of canned (usually chunks) pineapple in syrup. The syrup in the particular brand is grape juice, liquid glucose and sucrose. I drink the juice from both cans, and eat the chunks about 5 mins later, then comes the protein drink.
There is some controversy as to is its necessary to have post workout nutrition immediatly, but the primary interest in it for me is that it stops me feeling nauseous and mega fatigued. Also its psychological.
Another good post workout meal for those who don’t/can’t use stuff like Surge is grape juice and then cornflakes with skimmed milk. I think Dan Duchaine recc’d this.
In the old days on my degree (like pre 95) when I was totally on my ass my post workout was
Kwik-Save orange juice and canned evaporated milk or I used to eat four tins of low fat Kwik-Save custard. Pre-workout has always been low GI carbs and some protein and fats.
[quote]Nomancer wrote:
So, the same Post-WO drink works fine as a Pre-WO drink, right?
(I’ve read the articles, I’m just trying to get another persons opinion.)[/quote]
I think that depends on the individual. I do a 50:30:40 Malto: Dex: Prot PWO, but I usually do protein and a complex carb preworkout, just to give myself a little sustained energy. Although lately I’ve just been eating a couple of prunes and protein and that’s been working well.(And if I want to cut, I just eat protein on cardio days.) This is just what works for me. Experiment with it.
Lyle McDonald, in his new book on protein (a damn good book btw), mentions Waxy Maise.
He suggests that it really isn’t a good value unless you do two-a-day sessions where it actually matters how fast you replenish glycogen. For most of us with a 24 hour break (atleast) between training sessions, our usual PWO shakes will do the trick. The carbs found in all the other meals we eat between training sessions will top off the rest.
I’m interested in supplementing with resistant maltodextrins to cut the costs of eating for an upcoming prolonged period where I’ll be on a severely restricted budget (read “will soon be going into massive debt to pay for upcoming education”).
And I don’t want lack of material wealth to be my excuse for missing out on any progress I could be making for the duration of that period.
I figured this would be the most appropriate thread to resurrect and ask my question in.
Certainly not. However, as has been discussed earlier in this thread there is such a thing as low GI maltodextrin which is very economically priced. Using something like this in combination with other cost savers such as superfood, Grow!, cheap fish oil, and canola or olive oil might make a 3600+ kcal bulking diet achievable on a budget of about 150-200 dollars.
I’ve hit a caloric cieling with my current 150 dollar budget while staying on a paleo-diet, so I’m considering what other options there are without packing down rice, beans or potatoes, which contain more than just the starch that I’m judiciously allowing back into my diet.
[quote]jCaesar88 wrote:
Anyone know any good suppliers of dex/malto in US or do I have to go find a brewery?[/quote]
Your local grocery store will have dextrose, sometimes corn dextrose.
And a place that sells protein in bulk might also have maltodextrin. I’m beginning to doubt how much you actually need malto to make a decent low priced drink though. You could probably use orange Gatorade instead.