Were these by chance the first 2 years of your training?
I appreciate you imparting some of the wisdom you’ve gained in the trenches to me, but if you’ll allow me to indulge myself, I’ll say that, if I had ever followed that advice, I’d never do rows or chins. I definitely spent the first 2 years, and more, of my training very much jacking up any kind of back work. It took several years of trying tweaks, cues, strategies, magic and devil worship before I finally could get it through my head on how to effectively engage my lats on pulling work rather than my arms. And yeah, I definitely fried the crap out of my elbows a few times through the process, and got injured. But giving up would have made it far worse.
The early parts of your training are spent learning how to move in general. Things are going to be hard. None of this is really natural. But you’re in a very young position to completely give up on things.
Its actually the last 2 years of my training. My first 2 years of training are what inspired me to do rounded deads. 4 weeks out of comp,with my low back feeling like shit and tweaking every 3 weeks trying to find the perfect straight back position,i remember that until i hit 360lbs i didnt give a shit about my form on deadlifts,and i never had any injury or much pain outside of soreness. So I tried that. In 3 fkin week prep for comp with rounded back i managed not only to not get tweaked at all but also increase my deadlift by 90lbs(possibly more) and i continued with that form till now and all the tweaks stopped. I DO THINK i will try to straight back again,but not without a real coach,ive tried watching every singke deadlift form vid on youtube and reading articles and it got me nowhere.
There are the outliers who pull with crazy form (and I’m not a form nazi) but with respect to Konstanin, you’ll see that his thoracic rounds but his lumbar is locked in and neutral.
You aren’t guaranteeing a herniated disc but you sure are stacking the deck in favor of one.
IMO, you are young, pretty skinny and you might find as you build your back you can stay in position and blow past your current weights with far safer form. It’s a marathon not a sprint.
I do try to understand, because I have been where you have been, which is also why I try to help, because I went from there to where I am now.
I would try to analyze why the tweaks occurred and address that. From your video, I’m going to imagine it is a bracing issue. Bracing with your hands already on the bar is a skill, and it takes a while to master. From where you start (and where your hips are at the pull) I cannot imagine getting much of a brace.
Thats how i usually pull too. This video here is an exception because its a deficit and thats why i couldnt keep my lumbar straight. I dont think i will be doing deficits again or at least not very frequently since i cant keep my lumbar straight.
But i will eventually try to straighten my back again,somehow…
Yes,with a straight back i am almost unable to brace my abs properly. With a rounded back its insane how much tension i can build in my abs. It feels like the belt is going to explode. I think thats the main reason why the tweaks stopped. When i used to straight back my lower back felt naked so to say,with rounded it feels like my whole core gets covered in iron.
yes. you should have done all your reps with a weight you can lock out. you reaped the benefits of the band on the reps you locked out, not the one in the video. I thought I was clear about that.
It does, but you’re underestimating the effect of the band.
I do not believe this to be true.
it’s funny how often I hear the phrase ’ then you have guys like_____', and yet the guy in the blank is alwals Konstanin Konstantinov. People see exactly 1 example of what they want to see, dozens of counterexamples, and believe that 1 is the one to be emulated. I guess people like you just want to feel special.
This is just silly. KK has definitely had back injuries, almost every high level lifter gets injured, regardless of form. I don’t know how you think you can make the claim that he never had a back injury without actually knowing his full injury history.
I mentioned other people too? And if i stopped and thought for a second im sure i can remember even more.
I guess ill try it and see,im not 100% sure either.
Yes,exactly. But KK or any of the others i mentioned havent had any “special” injury from doing rounded back that the people with straight backs havent had,that was my point.
You still haven’t watched that video that I recommended, “Bracing is NOT breathing”, have you? This is something that you need to sort out, you won’t get far otherwise.
I did watch the vid. I brace in a squat the same way i brace in the deadlift,but i dont seem to have as much if a problem there keeping a straight back