Deficit Banded Deads 500lbs - No Lockout

Got the idea for this from Cailer Woolam and wanted to give it a try. The deficit made me round my back more than usual which in turn made the lockout almost impossible,but i guess you win some you lose some. Honestly i didnt think i was even going to move 500lbs(495) off the ground so im pretty happy about this. I pull with a rounded back(but less than this) either way so ive learnt how to do it safely altho i acknowledge its still risky. After this did Dead Presses 5x1 with 225lbs. Great for bench lockout and off chest strengh. Then went on to do my hypertrophy work for quads,lats,triceps,and traps. Nothing interesting there just pump work.

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Also bodyweight is 167lbs/76kg

You should work on adding some mass, you are strong but too light for your height. If you were 200-220 I bet you would lift a hell of a lot more.

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Definetely. Im in a lean bulk phase right now looking to add 1kg/2lbs per month. I should be around 185-190 till next year while maintaining a certain degree of leannness.

Good hustle.

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I think you would benefit from an alternating grip. Based on the video, your putting a lot of stress on your last two fingers and its affecting your grip. Some chalk, alternating grip, and a nice deep breath right before you pull will help you alot.

Its a hookgrip,thats why it looks like that. I couldve held the bar for at least 30 more seconds with no problem.

That hurt to watch.

Saying ā€˜I pull with a rounded backā€™ at your mass and experience level = my back isnā€™t strong enough to hold position.

Shit, you didnā€™t even try to achieve a neutral back on setup.

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Why would i try to achieve neutral back on the set up when i dont pull with a straight back? Ive tried deadlifting with a straight back for over a year and all i got was back tweaks and my deadlift going to shit. 5 months into rounded back deads and i havent had a single tweak yet and back feels nice. Either way its my back.

Thatā€™s why it says No Lockout

Are you saying that a failed lift is an excuse for cringeworthy, scared cat deadlifting form?

Yes it is.

Sometimes you have to take a step backwards to fix things for long term performance and safety. For example, due to injury I left conventional pulls for 8 months, switched to sumo and picked up some new skills and my conventional pulls are back on track and Iā€™m now locked in.

But yeah, itā€™s your back. But your form is still atrocious.

Iā€™m saying the other way around.

Roger that.

incorrect.

the lockout was so difficult because thatā€™s how band tension works. You would have locked this without the band. Band tension is zero at the bottom, and increases through the lift. It is not a linear function though, itā€™s a curve. So it become exponentially harder as you approach lockout.

You didnā€™t reap the benefits of the band tension because you couldnā€™t pull through the last part of the lift. Might as well not even had the band on it at all. For this to be an effective way to train, you need to lighten the load to the point you can lock out.

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The only thing that would convince me to pull with a straight back is if i had an irl powerlifting coach,which doesnt exist in my country. I have tried to fix my back numerous times and have deadlifted for a long time with a straight back with terrible results. My form might look ugly,buts its the strongest and at least until now safest way i can do deadlifts heavy.

Youā€™ve only been training for 4 years. How long is a ā€œlong timeā€ in that capacity?

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I did lockout 440 tho. I mean i guess i reaped the benefits to a degree right? Also im pretty sure rounded back does play a role in lockout,ive heard it from multiple high level powerlifters in podcasts l. Not saying it was the only factor,but if i did this without a deficit i think i couldve locked it out even with bands.

2 years. If you do sth for 2 years with no clear results and multiple injuries,id consider that enough proof and testing.

As a therapist Iā€™d just like you to research what a herniated disc is and how itā€™s caused for your own education. youā€™ll see why ppl are trying to have you lighten the load and train with proper form. Over all youā€™re setting yourself up for a hernation to the posterior aspect of you intervertebral disc. Which causes tremendous pain.

See i get that. But then you see people like Konstanin Konstantinov deadlifting 900lbs+ beltless with a rounded back. Mariusz Pudzianovski doing the shitties deadlifts ive ever seen with no back problems. Old time Strongman who deadlifted 700+ naturally with a very rounded back (cant remember the name). And they all never had any back injury from deadlifts. If anything i only see powerlifters injure their backs in squatting. I dont wanna be a biggot who doesnt listen to the research,but there is some evidence,and its either this or having my deadlift be stuck at mid 400 with no progress and continue to get back pain and tweaks (if i try strsight back).