Defending Me and Powerlifting

Better get it out of your system now, because it gets more complicated once you’re an adult.

Some people just need to get knocked the f(uck out.

Good Job.

[quote]BigMbot wrote:
LiftSmart wrote:
Unless you’re being physically bullied that’s uncalled for.

Just should have countered words with words.

Yup, been there done that. Doesnt work.[/quote]

laugh at the kid
who gives a shit what he says to you.
is your ego that frail that words will bring you to the brink of knocking someone out?

back in the day I would have and have done the same thing.

untill i learned that a real bad ass never ever has to advertise or flaunt that he is a badass,everyone knows.

its the loud ones that are trying to prove they are hard that are in fact pussies.

Come on guys its not like this kid was going to his house and harassing him. He probably just made fun of him once in a while, and he never stood up for himself verbally and just sulked and took it. You can stand up for yourself without beating the shit out of someone.

Too a bunch of kids this was probably the right thing to do, but for an adult its retarded. You’ll eventually learn I hope.

[quote]anonym wrote:
Boys will be boys.[/quote]

Best thing said all week

[quote]anonym wrote:
My God…

It’s almost as if young lads across the nation have never engaged in the coming-of-age, schoolyard sport of fisticuffs, before.

Time was, you walked home after getting in a scrape by the flagpole after 4th period and your pops would just tilt down the corner of his newspaper and grunt through the pipe smoke, “Hope you gave as good as you got.”

Your mother might wring her hands in her apron and wonder whatever happened to her precious, innocent schnookums, and your father would just reassure her that “boys will be boys” and maybe even get you some frozen meat to put over your eye.

He’d never tell you he was proud of you - but the way he patted you on the back as you skulked to your room said more than words ever could.

Now, grown men menstruate at the idea of children punching each other.

The fastest way to reassert yourself to a bully is a fist to his face. I doubt he’ll so much as make eye contact when he sees you in school, now.[/quote]

I agree with that completely.

I think it’s harsh to lay the smackdown on a guy that just talks though. I didn’t see him mention a warning either.

Like: “If you don’t shut the fuck up right now, I’m going to put my fist through your head.”

If the guy keeps talking shit after that he deserves to get knocked out.

Getting in a fight with someone is never a good thing.

I totally know where you are coming from when you’re getting harassed by someone for weeks or months for no reason. It seems like violence is the only option.

I had it happen to me from a person on my junior high Xcountry team and eventually got him to provoke me and tackled him on our way out to the track and pummeled him for 15 seconds in front of the football team.

I didn’t get in trouble for it because the coach knew he had been bothering me constantly and several teachers knew the guy had serious attitude problems. My Phy ed teacher actually took me aside and said the kid had it coming.

But it didn’t solve anything, two days later he put shampoo on my locker lock and started getting on my case and I swung to deck him, could have broke his nose and almost got kicked off the team.

We just stopped talking completely after that which ended the problem. I did get challenged to an off school fight with him later by a friend of his, but I declined because I didn’t trust I wouldn’t get ganged on or that they wouldn’t pull out paintball guns.

Fighting is seriously never called for unless you can be certain it will stop and prevent more harm from being done. Like in the case of someone weaker and unarmed that’s attacking you or someone in your vicinity.

It’s always better to prevent the cause, which means being nice to everyone whether they are or not to you. And trying your best to not get on anyone’s bad side. If you are getting harassed, it’s easier to simply ignore their words and hope they become bored since psychologically, they’re mostly just trying to get a response from you.

Since the OP took this for months before punching someone, nobody in this thread has any business ridiculing him. Maybe it was a stupid choice, but certainly not as stupid as some punk with an attitude endlessly ripping on a powerlifter for no reason and expecting no consequences.
Like someone said, boys will be boys.

[quote]FightingScott wrote:
And if you’re that much more jacked than this kid, there are probably 1,000 other ways to humiliate him without knocking him out. Noogies, Full Nelsons, Squatting his puny body until he feels sick, blocking doorways, etc. [/quote]

Not to mention picking him up be the throat and holding him against a wall while screaming in his face. There’s nothing mroe intimidating than have someone pick you up by the neck and lose it in their face. This is even better if you’re around people he knows. He’d damn near crap his pants and you can be assured that’s the last you’ll hear of him.

I got into fights for stupid things like these before, but then I make sure that if I beat the guy I beat him SO BAD that it’ll never cross his mind again to even look at me…

basically it was a lot more than a knockout… few of them are permanently injured…

I had threats from their groups (gangs, friends etc) but nobody ever showed up, like I said either leave him alone, just hitting him few times will only make it worse, so either leave him alone, or beat him that bad so he doesnt get the same idea anymore again to even look at you…

but if you start like that, you’ll be drag deep into that shit pretty soon… you know there is a possibility of him coming back with his friends, then you start carrying a gun just of protection… then it becomes a habit etc.

so better just DONT FIGHT UNTIL THEY HIT FIRST, any kind of verbal provocation solve by words, or just dont pay attention… its a thin line before you start getting into a fight just for the rush and get into more problems…

i did the same few years ago for the same reason, but now I see it was a stupid thing, I dont even care anymore… it more bothers me now when powerlifters claim how they’re tough than when other people say that they’re faggots :slight_smile:

gavra

[quote]BigMbot wrote:
As I write this, I sit here with a sprained hand, wondering if punching a kid out was worth it. For a while this kid I knew had always been talking shit about me, since the day I met him, I wanted to fight him, but my other friends said no, this went on for months until tonight.

Me my friends and him were walking along until he starts calling me and the sport of powerlifting faggots.

I shrugged it off till he said it again and I flipped, i shoved him to the car, he kicked me in the stomach (I dont kno why) Ane he ran, I caught up to him. and knocked him out. What would u guys do? this might sound weird, but i think i finally flipped because he made fun of powerlifting. Was I right in doing this?[/quote]

Well…I give someone 3 chances. If they don’t get the hint by then their ass is mine. You only got two cheeks anyway and if they can’t get the hint after you tried reasoning with them. Well in such a case I’d kick his ass into a hospital. If he got out and still didn’t get the hint it would gradually get worse each time till he can’t do anything any longer. Have done this once. It is a shame that there are idiots who are beyond reasoning and only listen to body language.

Cause and Effect. People are free to make choices, but you are also free to choose how to react to others decisions.

What’s this doing in the Strength Sports forum?

Bigmebot… your a tool and a child. What the hell is this thread doing in this forum.

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

it’s one thing to defend yourself, you should if you are physically threatened, it’s another to do it because you got teased

no one here is saying to never throw a punch, so that is just a ridiculous insinuation

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You didn’t say never throw a punch, but you did call him an idiot, immature, ect. ect. for doing just that.

Fuck it, kids, especially boys, will always fight. I myself enjoy boxing around with my friends, I even like getting into it with mall rats when they think they’re hard shit and start stuff. Maybe that makes me immature and all that, but I just think I like the adrenaline rush.

Edit. I’m not intending to be critical on anyone, or to single you out OctoberGirl, so sorry if it seems that way. Just trying to make a point. I see where you’re all coming from, but I can’t change who I am and the OP probably can’t either.

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
-If you don’t beat on him while he’s on the pavement, you just taught him not to poke the sleeping bear, without any serious damage.

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Thought for a minute you were saying he should hit him while he’s down. Once i thought about it though, I know what you were getting at.

I agree about the whole wild west idea. Political correctness has gone too far, I read an article about British police banning use of the word “obese.” Honestly, that’s so ridiculous. Oh no, it hurts their feelings? too fuckin bad. they got themselves to that stage in the first place. and no, i won’t move for you when you want to get around me on the scooter meant for old people that you use because walking is “tiring.”

Back on topic, I suppose it’s due to the amount of violence amounting to a lot more than fist fights, but i can’t believe the system still protects people who talk shit and are pussies. Sure, i would’ve prolly gotten beaten up when i was younger, because i was an absolute stick, and was always sarcastic to people who were pricks. but in the end, i would’ve been a stronger person for it, and likely would’ve started lifting earlier (which i wish i would have done.)

/end rant.

[quote]Hanley wrote:
FightingScott wrote:
And if you’re that much more jacked than this kid, there are probably 1,000 other ways to humiliate him without knocking him out. Noogies, Full Nelsons, Squatting his puny body until he feels sick, blocking doorways, etc.

Not to mention picking him up be the throat and holding him against a wall while screaming in his face. There’s nothing mroe intimidating than have someone pick you up by the neck and lose it in their face. This is even better if you’re around people he knows. He’d damn near crap his pants and you can be assured that’s the last you’ll hear of him.[/quote]

See, this is how you gotta go about it.

Seems to me that OP just wanted social approvement for his acts because he wasn’t comfortable with what he did, hence the “I defended powerlifting!” Nothing to see here.

After page one I only skimmed the posts because most (but not all) people seemed to be really missing the point.

Who cares if the kid files a police report? Who cares if he comes back and stabs/shoots/gang rapes the OP?

Whether the OP can get away with beating up some wise ass kid does not really matter. The real issue is the OP’s state of mind. Being badass is about how much discipline you have, not how many people you can beat up. Your need to prove something to a scrawny wise ass just proves your own insecurity and weakness. You should be better than them and more confident and not need to prove yourself.

You probably do like guys since you are trying so very hard to prove that you do not.

Everyone that is saying that “boys will be boys” and “all kids are immature” are being weak willed too. Yes, kids by nature will be immature and do foolish things. Yet that is why that those older than them and presumably more mature should correct their mistakes at every turn. Their bad habits should be broken as soon as possible, and new positive habits forged in their place.

You wouldn’t tell someone to smoke and drink their ass off until the end of college and THEN try to clean up the mess they made of their body would you?

I bet some of you would but I hope you see my point.

you all need to chill out, hes being harrassed and so he put the nub in his place, serves him right, shouldnt egg on ppl that can whoop you for months at a time

[quote]Moon Knight wrote:
After page one I only skimmed the posts because most (but not all) people seemed to be really missing the point.

Who cares if the kid files a police report? Who cares if he comes back and stabs/shoots/gang rapes the OP?

Whether the OP can get away with beating up some wise ass kid does not really matter. The real issue is the OP’s state of mind. Being badass is about how much discipline you have, not how many people you can beat up. Your need to prove something to a scrawny wise ass just proves your own insecurity and weakness. You should be better than them and more confident and not need to prove yourself.[/quote]

I’m sorry, but did you even attend school as a 15-year old?

If someone talks shit about you to your face for months on end and you put up with it with the excuse that “you don’t need to prove yourself”…you are a pussy in the eyes of your peers.

Just because he has the spine to not be used as a verbal punching bag for some kid to work out on doesn’t mean he is insecure or weak. It means he doesn’t tolerate bullshit indefinitely.

Not all of us were content to go through our highschool days as a social doormat.

[quote]Moon Knight wrote:
You probably do like guys since you are trying so very hard to prove that you do not.[/quote]

Awesome psychoanalysis (and a view completely unheard of in the realm of Internet Diagnoses, by the way), but the kid is 15. Being called a faggot in front of your peers get very old, very quick at that age.

If you don’t know how kids that age can run with jokes and take advantage of people unwilling to stick up for themselves…you probably needed to get out more in your youth.

[quote]Moon Knight wrote:
Everyone that is saying that “boys will be boys” and “all kids are immature” are being weak willed too. Yes, kids by nature will be immature and do foolish things. Yet that is why that those older than them and presumably more mature should correct their mistakes at every turn. Their bad habits should be broken as soon as possible, and new positive habits forged in their place.

You wouldn’t tell someone to smoke and drink their ass off until the end of college and THEN try to clean up the mess they made of their body would you?

I bet some of you would but I hope you see my point.[/quote]

What point? Where’s the “habit”?

ONE fight does not a street thug make. One cigarette does not make someone an addict. One beer doesn’t make someone an alcoholic.

The kid HAS good habits - he was turning the other cheek for months on end (why this seems to escape so many of you is beyond me). I’d say his parents did a very good job teaching him restraint as a child. Eventually, though, there has to come a time when you are willing to stand up for yourself.

And that does NOT involve challenging the kid to “a killer leg day” at the gym.

Christ, he punched the kid a few times. You all make it seems like he busted a glass bottle over the kids dome and went to town on his kidneys with the shards.

Children get into fights all the time - most of us who grew up before all the school violence hysteria and “Zero Tolerance” crap have at least one under our belt.

I’d say the majority of us turned out OK.

[quote]Kataklysm wrote:
Seems to me that OP just wanted social approvement for his acts because he wasn’t comfortable with what he did, hence the “I defended powerlifting!” Nothing to see here. [/quote]

I will take Advice from these guys and give you the cold shoulder.