Decimation Food Log

Tuesday
weighted close to the same 114.85kg
but I have added creatine so happy with that for now
5 dates
overnight oats
lunch mackerel fillets smoky BBQ sauce
Indian lentil mix

banana

15 500 steps in work

try to do cardio later on bike

greek yoghurt 500g Aldi pink pot

dinner two eggs fried
3 low calorie sausages 6m71 cal
mushrooms
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18 mins steady state on stationary bike
109 heart rate

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Good to see you recording.

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As a person on the verge of fatty liver and diabetes, I am always interested in the inclusion of so much high sugar/sweet fruit in the diet.

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5 dates and one banana
the Joghurt ist lower sugar

Yeah, that’s what I’m talking about. Whenever I see them mentioned, I’m always curious as to why they’re present. It just seems very counter-intuitive to me.

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dates have been shown not spike insulin much in moderation of course.

I like bananas. I prefer it to chocolate.
I will try to reduce it , perhaps half a banana.

But compared to not eating them at all, it’s still a contribution.

Again, these are just observations. I never eat fruit. Even before I stopped eating plants, I didn’t eat fruit. I never felt a need for it. I didn’t have concerned of fatty liver or diabetes: it just wasn’t part of my life. I’m curious what it’s purpose is in your current diet, when you’ve said you need to lose weight urgently. To me, those seems like quick kills to eliminate, and again, it seems that way to me BECAUSE I’m someone that just plain never ate fruit before.

I’m trying to understand, intellectually, the function of these foods in your diet at this time. As much as I say ā€œChaos is the planā€, I don’t feel that what we eat is a product of entropy. At one point, there was some sort of decision process that went ā€œI will consume datesā€, and that number 5 may have been involved as well. Same with the banana.

To me, it’s an interesting decision. I don’t understand it from where I am sitting.

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haha constipation was the main reason to begin with. they have been effective.
But I suppose I could eat less sweet forms of fibre.
I have always read that a lot of fruit and vegetables is good for you . I suppose I should eat more greens instead.

I believe this explains my disconnect.

When one is dealing with an obesity issues, LOTS of anything is not good. We got here by overeating. It’s now a question of moderation and restriction: lots exits the equation.

I believe there is room for fruits in a solid nutrition plan, but I’d absolutely lean away from sweet fruits at this time. Tomatoes, cucumbers, peppers, zucchini, etc. From there, if we move into any realm of sweet, at most, I’d lean into berries, but this would be where I’d really talk the restriction portion of the equation. Ask ā€œWHYā€ am I consuming these berries and go from there. If you feel that fiber is the solution to your constipation issues, as you noted: there are non-fruit solutions there. But also, consider hydration. I eat a nearly zero fiber diet, and find that, as long as my hydration is on point, I don’t have these issues, but once I slack on that, it’s a concern.

@QuadQueen has a much more encyclopedic knowledge of fruits and veggies than I do, and can hopefully share a perspective on safe choices/portions for someone concerned with fatty liver and diabetes in the pursuit of weight loss.

I am rooting for you big time dude.

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thank you

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done bike 18 mins 100 heartrate

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Maybe not, but 1 date has 16 grams of sugar. By having 5, you had 80 grams of sugar, not counting the banana.

I would recommend, that with your diagnosis of fatty liver, to eliminate fruit and only consume non-starchy vegetables (this means no potatoes, corn, peas, legumes/beans, sweet potatoes, etc.). If you do have a starchy vegetable, limit it to 1/2 cup serving and keep it post-workout.

Lean protein and non-starchy veggies need to be your primary focus.

You can do this - but you need to decide you want to and then commit.

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thanks Quad queen

I have been ill for the best few days…on the plus side I have not eaten much.

I just bought some casein pbn 2kg strawberry for about £23.
tastes ok.

What is the best way to take casein ? I had one overnight today.
Can it be used as a meal replacement too?

Been eating less sugar.

I’m confused at how often you opt for supplements rather than just whole foods in this situation. That said, a protein supplement is a protein supplement. Casein is known for being a slower absorbing protein, which can improve satiety over long times or be useful prior to sleep to aid in recovery, but it’s a supplement rather than a replacement for whole food. Whole food is going to bring with it a variety of beneficial micronutrients and minerals.

thanks. ok to take overnight but not as a meal replacement for me then?

Once again: try zooming out on this from a macro level. What you have in your possession is a protein supplement. It’s function is to provide you more protein to fill in the gaps of your diet as it relates to achieving a desired protein total. There’s nothing unique or special about it in that regard. When you find yourself unable to achieve your protein goal via whole foods, this supplement will make up for it.

Reposting this from a different thread, but it applies to you.

Dropped 80lbs in the last year while working in between 60-96 hour weeks, while never counting a calorie or touching PED’s. (Side note: I see this thrown out so often as a question of ā€œshould I take PEDs. I have never had the freaking option lol. Idk where you guys are at with just ready access to this stuff, I doubt i could find some if I tried)

Anyway, Atlas’s rules for weight loss:

  • eat essentially the same thing every day. I don’t know what my macros broke down to, but I know with my same 3 meal preps and 1 snack, i dropped weight. When weight stalled, I dropped the snack, and dropped more.
  • meal prep everything. I’d take one day a week and just spend 2 hours going madman in my kitchen. 21 Tupperware containers later, my food for the week was set.
  • some people praise low carb diets. Some people praise low fat diets. I don’t know what happened to the traditional balanced diet, but I still swear by it. Eat some fats, eat some carbs, eat a lot of protein
  • cut out refined shit. I’m no doctor, I may not know the absolute optimal mix of food and micronutrients to maximize life and make me Superman, but common sense tells me that a banana is a better carb than a donut, and anything that comes in a plastic wrapping with ingredients I can’t pronounce probably isn’t great. Chicken breast, rice, beans, potatoes, tuna, avocado, stuff of that nature should make up the bulk of your diet.
  • Daily weigh ins. Some people say this creates an unhealthy relationship with the scale. I totally agree, but when you are fat and need to fix it, that everyday accountability is important. Get yourself trim, then you can focus on not obsessing over the scale, but if you’ve got 100lbs to lose, your relationship with your waist line is a bigger issue than your one with the scale.
  • diet soda is fine. I’m sure you can find something to say I’m wrong. It worked for me.
  • you should always be at least a little hungry. Not ravenous, but after eating, you should finish your last bites of food and wish there was a little more. Losing weight isn’t fun, it’s the price we pay for letting ourselves get fat in the first place.
  • do cardio. 3x a week. 20 min minimum. You should be sweating, it should take effort. I’m a big fan of the bike since it’s easy on joints. It will definitely aid weight loss, and also just increase your health overall.
  • lift weights, because being strong is awesome. Your lifts will go down. Mine did. It sucks. Being fat helps move weight. One thing I liked to do was compare my lifts to my bodyweight. My bench might be lower, but I can rep out my bodyweight plus now, where as I couldn’t do my bodyweight for one when I started. Little bit of a mindset shift that helps.
  • do pull-ups. When I started, I had to use a shameful amount of bands to do more than 1 Pullup. As you lose weight, lose some bands. Big motivational boost to see Pullup numbers increase as your bodyweight drops.
  • I did 1-2 cheat meals a week. It’s a cheat meal, not a cheat day. Also, don’t be an asshole with your cheat meal. If you go to the buffet and eat 10 plates, that will screw you up. Go out to a nice dinner with friends or family, have a steak or salmon, burger, whatever, but just a reasonable meal, then back to strict.
  • no booze on weekdays. Max 2 drinks total on weekends. No booze period if weight is stalling.
  • I would put my weight in a tracker so I could see a graph of weight loss over time. From day to day or even week to week, it could look stagnant of even up and down. Keep with it for a while, zoom out to several months view, and all of a sudden it looks a lot more linear. Just remember that when you get frustrated

Edit: I just realized I posted this the first time as a response to you two years ago. Did you follow through with it then? If not, give it a shot. If so and it failed, well that’s all I got lol

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Thanks I got down to 110kg last year and reversed my diabetes and fatty liver. I used a lot of your strategies. Than you Atlas

Gained a lot over the Christmas period.
and January.

I bought 5kg of chicken breasts today.
So that and vegetables is on the menu.

I was sick after one of my wife’s birthday batch meals vomiting etc. So I might skip the present batch. it’s probably an allergy or something.

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Just to throw in my two cents, at your weight and where your health is at, you really don’t need to be taking anything overnight. Your body will be fine without food for the time that you’re asleep. Save the calories for your daytime meals.

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