The really heavy growling is super hit or miss for me, sometimes I don’t mind it at all and sometimes it just ruins a song for me. My metal collection is so scattered with songs from tons of bands because I generally love the “sound” but have to pick and choose the ones where the vocals aren’t a deterrent, it’s weird.
In Flames seems to be the happy medium for me, old and new I just tend to really enjoy most of their stuff.
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
esk221 wrote:
Ugh.
x2
If you want to listen to good metal, go to a metal forum like smnnews.com/board or metal-archives.com
You’re only going to get shitty bands in threads like this.[/quote]
I don’t think he’s looking for our kind of metal.
Prolly just more nu-metal.
(this is like trying to explain lifting to a non-lifter…)
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
detazathoth wrote:
esk221 wrote:
Ugh.
x2
If you want to listen to good metal, go to a metal forum like smnnews.com/board or metal-archives.com
You’re only going to get shitty bands in threads like this.
I don’t think he’s looking for our kind of metal.
Prolly just more nu-metal.
[/quote]
Yeah… that’s about right. Anyway, I think we still have the Death Metal thread around GAL somewhere if we really wanted to dig it up.
[quote]SSC wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
detazathoth wrote:
esk221 wrote:
Ugh.
x2
If you want to listen to good metal, go to a metal forum like smnnews.com/board or metal-archives.com
You’re only going to get shitty bands in threads like this.
I don’t think he’s looking for our kind of metal.
Prolly just more nu-metal.
Yeah… that’s about right. Anyway, I think we still have the Death Metal thread around GAL somewhere if we really wanted to dig it up.[/quote]
Just let him discover stuff for himself. It’s the same as with any non-standard activity… Your tastes change as you gain experience, your brain starts deciphering what’s going on etc.
[quote]imhungry wrote:
APE. wrote:
Geebus wrote:
I agree with Live about not liking the vocals. There was an extreme metal thread not too long ago that I was learning about bands from. A lot of the bands had good music, but the vocals were almost enough to turn me away from them.
Here are the metal bands that I like in no particular order: Black Sabbath, Ozzy Osbourne, Dio, Judas Priest, Metallica, Anthrax, Megadeth, Queensryche, Slayer, Type O Negative, Danzig, Pantera, Tool, Marilyn Manson, Motorhead, Accept, Ministry, Iron Maiden, Killswitch Engage, and (puts on flame-resistant suit) Avenged Sevenfold
I agree w/ these 'cept manson.
Suprisingly no one has said
Black Label Society, or are they
to mainstream for ya’ll?
Then there is 5FDP (5 Finger Death Punch)
Yes I know alot of this gets radio airplay.
BLS pretty damn good!
I don’t understand why it’s considered such a bad thing, when a band goes “mainstream”. Isn’t it a good thing, as long as they put out what they want to, and stay true to themselves and their music?[/quote]
Yes I notice that too, IMO, as you said if they stay true to themself, so what.They are making money.Who doesn’t wanna make money doing something they love to do.
Sure alot of ppl play for the enjoyment of playing, but who wouldn’t play an not mind making it big.
And musicians in here, don’t lie to yourself.
@least in Rap I have to admit/admire they flaunt their money.
Most mainstream stuff is simple. That’s the problem for me. Heard it all a million times before and it’s not technical/complex whatsoever (with a few mostly pathetic exceptions)…
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
detazathoth wrote:
esk221 wrote:
Ugh.
x2
If you want to listen to good metal, go to a metal forum like smnnews.com/board or metal-archives.com
You’re only going to get shitty bands in threads like this.
I don’t think he’s looking for our kind of metal.
Prolly just more nu-metal.
(this is like trying to explain lifting to a non-lifter…)
[/quote]
My nephew in his teens once wrote a report on diff forms of metal.It was for sophmore music class.For nu-metal he put basically to sum it up:
NuMetal:Razorblades, Self-Pity, Prozac, Ropes to hang on, Guns to blow the Pain away, Sleeping Pills and Alcohol, Girls who broke their Hearts, Life & Death.
I don’t remember what he wrote for the other genres but I chuckled when I read it.
Soilwork, Destroy the Runner, Trivium, Disaromia Mundi (i think the spelling is off), Five Finger Death Punch.
All new(er) stuff I’ve started listening to in the last 6mo.
All of it makes me wanna break shit. 
[quote]imhungry wrote:
APE. wrote:
Geebus wrote:
I agree with Live about not liking the vocals. There was an extreme metal thread not too long ago that I was learning about bands from. A lot of the bands had good music, but the vocals were almost enough to turn me away from them.
Here are the metal bands that I like in no particular order: Black Sabbath, Ozzy Osbourne, Dio, Judas Priest, Metallica, Anthrax, Megadeth, Queensryche, Slayer, Type O Negative, Danzig, Pantera, Tool, Marilyn Manson, Motorhead, Accept, Ministry, Iron Maiden, Killswitch Engage, and (puts on flame-resistant suit) Avenged Sevenfold
I agree w/ these 'cept manson.
Suprisingly no one has said
Black Label Society, or are they
to mainstream for ya’ll?
Then there is 5FDP (5 Finger Death Punch)
Yes I know alot of this gets radio airplay.
BLS pretty damn good!
[/quote]
Yeah, surprised it took a little while for them to come up. Overkill, don’t think anyone mentioned them, consistently good.
Skimming my iTunes:
Probot
Ministry (not sure if you’d call them metal)
AC/DC
American Head Charge
Rob Halford’s solo stuff
Mastodon has some good heavy stuff too, especially on Leviathan. And Raise Hell’s “Wicked Is My Game”, great album.
[quote]
I don’t understand why it’s considered such a bad thing, when a band goes “mainstream”. Isn’t it a good thing, as long as they put out what they want to, and stay true to themselves and their music?[/quote]
Because the two do not usually go hand in hand. Witness Metallica, post-And Justice For All.
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Most mainstream stuff is simple. That’s the problem for me. Heard it all a million times before and it’s not technical/complex whatsoever (with a few mostly pathetic exceptions)…
[/quote]
That’s where I agree. I know everyone’s got their own interests and tastes in music, which is fine, but it’s ignorant when people discount the insane musicianship of some death metal bands simply because of the vocals.
It makes me wonder if people are actually more interested in hearing good music or hearing black-eye lined people whine about being picked on in high school.
Amon Amarth “Twilight of the Thunder God” is pretty cool:
[quote]acelement wrote:
So far anyone that has posted Mastodon, Anthrax and Meshuggah (along with the other bands they listed) understand metal
I’m surprised these are not on the list:
Darkest Hour
Protest the Hero
Underoath (the non-emo stuff)
As I Lay Dying
my favorite metal band without a doubt is Protest the Hero. They are fucking unbelievably good and unworldly in the talent department.[/quote]
Metal-core is kinda frowned upon by the die-hards… Which is why it’s not mentioned much.
Kinda like how hardcore bodybuilders frown upon certain “revolutionary” new methods ;D
[quote]SSC wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Most mainstream stuff is simple. That’s the problem for me. Heard it all a million times before and it’s not technical/complex whatsoever (with a few mostly pathetic exceptions)…
That’s where I agree. I know everyone’s got their own interests and tastes in music, which is fine, but it’s ignorant when people discount the insane musicianship of some death metal bands simply because of the vocals.
It makes me wonder if people are actually more interested in hearing good music or hearing black-eye lined people whine about being picked on in high school.[/quote]
Hmm, that is sort of like… say, you can’t go to them gym and bench 500+ raw on your very first day, right? You work up to it… Most people who just got into “working out” stay at that level of thinking (toning and all that bs), but a few sort of get into it more and more… Or present a pic of Kevin Levrone in top-shape to some non-lifter. Guy won’t know what he’s seeing and have a negative reaction… he can’t differentiate between muscle-groups yet, etcetc.
Same with the complex/intricate/technical music styles… People usually start with nu-metal or slay-the-dragon-fantasy powermetal… And work up from there or just stay at that level.
Try to listen to something too alien/complex too soon and the brain just shuts down or doesn’t know what to make of what it’s hearing… Try to bench 500 too soon and… Well, the result is probably somewhat worse than what you get from the musical equivalent ;D
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
SSC wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Most mainstream stuff is simple. That’s the problem for me. Heard it all a million times before and it’s not technical/complex whatsoever (with a few mostly pathetic exceptions)…
That’s where I agree. I know everyone’s got their own interests and tastes in music, which is fine, but it’s ignorant when people discount the insane musicianship of some death metal bands simply because of the vocals.
It makes me wonder if people are actually more interested in hearing good music or hearing black-eye lined people whine about being picked on in high school.
Hmm, that is sort of like… say, you can’t go to them gym and bench 500+ raw on your very first day, right? You work up to it… Most people who just got into “working out” stay at that level of thinking (toning and all that bs), but a few sort of get into it more and more… Or present a pic of Kevin Levrone in top-shape to some non-lifter. Guy won’t know what he’s seeing and have a negative reaction… he can’t differentiate between muscle-groups yet, etcetc.
Same with the complex/intricate/technical music styles… People usually start with nu-metal or slay-the-dragon-fantasy powermetal… And work up from there or just stay at that level.
Try to listen to something too alien/complex too soon and the brain just shuts down or doesn’t know what to make of what it’s hearing… Try to bench 500 too soon and… Well, the result is probably somewhat worse than what you get from the musical equivalent ;D[/quote]
Haha, right. That’s a really good analogy. It is something you have to build up to, definitely. I’m not trying to put myself up on a pedestal, but some of the bands mentioned earlier (Slipknot, Korn, BLS,) were the types of things I listened to in middle school. Eventually I graduated to speed metal, metalcore, and some pre-death metal (Amon Amarth, Cannibal Corpse, Children of Bodom, etc.)
I think another big factor is how accustomed mainsteam listeners are to melodies are harmonies. When they don’t have a ‘pont-of-reference’ type of part in a song, such as a chorus, it can be tough to digest the music for what it is. I think that’s a large reason why we have all of the a-typical breakdowns in a lot of metalcore bands today, it’s a segway from a chorus but it’s not quite constant punishment. Ah well, to each their own.
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
SSC wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Most mainstream stuff is simple. That’s the problem for me. Heard it all a million times before and it’s not technical/complex whatsoever (with a few mostly pathetic exceptions)…
That’s where I agree. I know everyone’s got their own interests and tastes in music, which is fine, but it’s ignorant when people discount the insane musicianship of some death metal bands simply because of the vocals.
It makes me wonder if people are actually more interested in hearing good music or hearing black-eye lined people whine about being picked on in high school.
Hmm, that is sort of like… say, you can’t go to them gym and bench 500+ raw on your very first day, right? You work up to it… Most people who just got into “working out” stay at that level of thinking (toning and all that bs), but a few sort of get into it more and more… Or present a pic of Kevin Levrone in top-shape to some non-lifter. Guy won’t know what he’s seeing and have a negative reaction… he can’t differentiate between muscle-groups yet, etcetc.
Same with the complex/intricate/technical music styles… People usually start with nu-metal or slay-the-dragon-fantasy powermetal… And work up from there or just stay at that level.
Try to listen to something too alien/complex too soon and the brain just shuts down or doesn’t know what to make of what it’s hearing… Try to bench 500 too soon and… Well, the result is probably somewhat worse than what you get from the musical equivalent ;D[/quote]
For me, Opeth was kind of a gateway band… After I got over the growling and saw how great they were, I became interested in a wider variety of more complex music. Everything from jazz fusion to brutal death metal.
Moral of the story: Opeth is amazing. 
[quote]Vegg wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
SSC wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Most mainstream stuff is simple. That’s the problem for me. Heard it all a million times before and it’s not technical/complex whatsoever (with a few mostly pathetic exceptions)…
That’s where I agree. I know everyone’s got their own interests and tastes in music, which is fine, but it’s ignorant when people discount the insane musicianship of some death metal bands simply because of the vocals.
It makes me wonder if people are actually more interested in hearing good music or hearing black-eye lined people whine about being picked on in high school.
Hmm, that is sort of like… say, you can’t go to them gym and bench 500+ raw on your very first day, right? You work up to it… Most people who just got into “working out” stay at that level of thinking (toning and all that bs), but a few sort of get into it more and more… Or present a pic of Kevin Levrone in top-shape to some non-lifter. Guy won’t know what he’s seeing and have a negative reaction… he can’t differentiate between muscle-groups yet, etcetc.
Same with the complex/intricate/technical music styles… People usually start with nu-metal or slay-the-dragon-fantasy powermetal… And work up from there or just stay at that level.
Try to listen to something too alien/complex too soon and the brain just shuts down or doesn’t know what to make of what it’s hearing… Try to bench 500 too soon and… Well, the result is probably somewhat worse than what you get from the musical equivalent ;D
For me, Opeth was kind of a gateway band… After I got over the growling and saw how great they were, I became interested in a wider variety of more complex music. Everything from jazz fusion to brutal death metal.
Moral of the story: Opeth is amazing. ;)[/quote]
Opeth fans have small arms (HA!).
;D
Kidding, how’s their new album? (my fav was Still Life…)
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
SSC wrote:
Well, as long as we’re chiming in with our metal lists once again -
Cryptopsy
Suffocation
Decapitated
Aborted
Exhumed
Nile
Gorguts
Disavowed
Pig Destroyer
Dying Fetus
Morbid Angel
Orbituary
Necrophagist
Cephalic Carnage
Psycroptic
Spawn of Possession
Immolation
hell, I’ll even throw Deceide in there.
Just a few.
/thread
[/quote]
x2
And Spawn of Possession just fucking dominates.
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
Vegg wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
…theres a band called dying fetus? lol
Haha, I actually saw them live last summer. They’re incredibly boring and uninspired in my opinion.
You know, they started that whole sound.[/quote]
The incredibly boring and uninspired sound?
Seriously, I wasn’t aware of them being pioneers of… anything?
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Vegg wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
SSC wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Most mainstream stuff is simple. That’s the problem for me. Heard it all a million times before and it’s not technical/complex whatsoever (with a few mostly pathetic exceptions)…
That’s where I agree. I know everyone’s got their own interests and tastes in music, which is fine, but it’s ignorant when people discount the insane musicianship of some death metal bands simply because of the vocals.
It makes me wonder if people are actually more interested in hearing good music or hearing black-eye lined people whine about being picked on in high school.
Hmm, that is sort of like… say, you can’t go to them gym and bench 500+ raw on your very first day, right? You work up to it… Most people who just got into “working out” stay at that level of thinking (toning and all that bs), but a few sort of get into it more and more… Or present a pic of Kevin Levrone in top-shape to some non-lifter. Guy won’t know what he’s seeing and have a negative reaction… he can’t differentiate between muscle-groups yet, etcetc.
Same with the complex/intricate/technical music styles… People usually start with nu-metal or slay-the-dragon-fantasy powermetal… And work up from there or just stay at that level.
Try to listen to something too alien/complex too soon and the brain just shuts down or doesn’t know what to make of what it’s hearing… Try to bench 500 too soon and… Well, the result is probably somewhat worse than what you get from the musical equivalent ;D
For me, Opeth was kind of a gateway band… After I got over the growling and saw how great they were, I became interested in a wider variety of more complex music. Everything from jazz fusion to brutal death metal.
Moral of the story: Opeth is amazing.
Opeth fans have small arms (HA!).
;D
Kidding, how’s their new album? (my fav was Still Life…)[/quote]
Ouch… :`(
But seriously, Watershed is amazing… I think this is the greatest song I have ever heard:
[quote]Vegg wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Vegg wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
SSC wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Most mainstream stuff is simple. That’s the problem for me. Heard it all a million times before and it’s not technical/complex whatsoever (with a few mostly pathetic exceptions)…
That’s where I agree. I know everyone’s got their own interests and tastes in music, which is fine, but it’s ignorant when people discount the insane musicianship of some death metal bands simply because of the vocals.
It makes me wonder if people are actually more interested in hearing good music or hearing black-eye lined people whine about being picked on in high school.
Hmm, that is sort of like… say, you can’t go to them gym and bench 500+ raw on your very first day, right? You work up to it… Most people who just got into “working out” stay at that level of thinking (toning and all that bs), but a few sort of get into it more and more…
Or present a pic of Kevin Levrone in top-shape to some non-lifter. Guy won’t know what he’s seeing and have a negative reaction… he can’t differentiate between muscle-groups yet, etcetc.
Same with the complex/intricate/technical music styles…
People usually start with nu-metal or slay-the-dragon-fantasy powermetal… And work up from there or just stay at that level.
Try to listen to something too alien/complex too soon and the brain just shuts down or doesn’t know what to make of what it’s hearing… Try to bench 500 too soon and… Well, the result is probably somewhat worse than what you get from the musical equivalent ;D
For me, Opeth was kind of a gateway band… After I got over the growling and saw how great they were, I became interested in a wider variety of more complex music. Everything from jazz fusion to brutal death metal.
Moral of the story: Opeth is amazing.
Opeth fans have small arms (HA!).
;D
Kidding, how’s their new album? (my fav was Still Life…)
Ouch… :`(
But seriously, Watershed is amazing… I think this is the greatest song I have ever heard:
I hate it when bands put their stuff on youtube or myspace instead of making mp3’s available I have no sound on the internet-rig here…
But thanks, I guess I’ll have to go see some buddies and bother them until they let me have the cd for a while.