Death Metal

[quote]idalux wrote:
Vegg wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
detazathoth wrote:
GTFO

haha detazathoth I’m sorry I couldn’t help myself.

Here is my real contribution.

White Chapel-Fairy Fay

I saw Whitechapel live a while ago, they weren’t bad.

The Faceless, a neat tech-death band:

The Faceless is awesome. I like the robot voice in their music although I think they overdid it a little on Planetary Duality.[/quote]

Hell yeah. They have some cool shit. I tried ordering this shirt from Rockabilia (had a credit) but they were all out… I was kind of pissed.

facepalms at all the deathcore being posted

[quote]detazathoth wrote:
facepalms at all the deathcore being posted[/quote]

If we’re being accepting of JAZZ-infused shit and black metal, why the fuck not? I think they’re both shit, but I’m not a fucking dick about it. The Faceless has some original stuff in their music if you’ve listened to it.

…Unless you’re talking about Whitechapel.

[quote]SSC wrote:
detazathoth wrote:
facepalms at all the deathcore being posted

If we’re being accepting of JAZZ-infused shit and black metal, why the fuck not? I think they’re both shit, but I’m not a fucking dick about it. The Faceless has some original stuff in their music if you’ve listened to it.

…Unless you’re talking about Whitechapel.[/quote]

I’m talking about Whitechapel haha

The Faceless cite Cynic and other Jazz influenced Death Metal bands are their influence.

The drummer from The Faceless is a cool guy, although that’s his day job, and this is his real project.

Abhorrent - Blasterpiece Theatre

They also do Defeated Sanity covers when they’re bored

Gojira- The Heaviest Matter of the Universe

Gojira- Clone

Cynic - Evolutionary Sleeper

Blotted Science- EEG Tracing

Ne Obliviscaris- Tapestry of the Starless Abstract

Opeth- Master’s Apprentice

Strapping Young Lad- Almost Again

Guess who’s band is playing at NEDF this year!

[quote]detazathoth wrote:
SSC wrote:
detazathoth wrote:
facepalms at all the deathcore being posted

If we’re being accepting of JAZZ-infused shit and black metal, why the fuck not? I think they’re both shit, but I’m not a fucking dick about it. The Faceless has some original stuff in their music if you’ve listened to it.

…Unless you’re talking about Whitechapel.

I’m talking about Whitechapel haha

The Faceless cite Cynic and other Jazz influenced Death Metal bands are their influence.

The drummer from The Faceless is a cool guy, although that’s his day job, and this is his real project.

Abhorrent - Blasterpiece Theatre

They also do Defeated Sanity covers when they’re bored [/quote]

Okay, my bad dude. I guess I had a case of the early-morning grumpies.

← Rule (grind core not death metal)

[quote]pro-a-ggression wrote:
im goin to the summer slaughter tour on friday wooyeah!

necrophagist, dying fetus, the red shore, aborted… ooooo baby!![/quote]

My condolences to you.

[quote]Cimmerian wrote:
pro-a-ggression wrote:
im goin to the summer slaughter tour on friday wooyeah!

necrophagist, dying fetus, the red shore, aborted… ooooo baby!!

My condolences to you.

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I lol’d

[quote]SSC wrote:
detazathoth wrote:
SSC wrote:
detazathoth wrote:
facepalms at all the deathcore being posted

If we’re being accepting of JAZZ-infused shit and black metal, why the fuck not? I think they’re both shit, but I’m not a fucking dick about it. The Faceless has some original stuff in their music if you’ve listened to it.

…Unless you’re talking about Whitechapel.

I’m talking about Whitechapel haha

The Faceless cite Cynic and other Jazz influenced Death Metal bands are their influence.

The drummer from The Faceless is a cool guy, although that’s his day job, and this is his real project.

Abhorrent - Blasterpiece Theatre

They also do Defeated Sanity covers when they’re bored

Okay, my bad dude. I guess I had a case of the early-morning grumpies.[/quote]

It’s alright these things happen, although I will say if you like SS, Mike Gilbert does have some “nu-jazz” stuff in his playing style.

[quote]detazathoth wrote:
It’s alright these things happen, although I will say if you like SS, Mike Gilbert does have some “nu-jazz” stuff in his playing style.
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“nu-jazz” ?

I can already see the wikipedia article coming…

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
detazathoth wrote:
It’s alright these things happen, although I will say if you like SS, Mike Gilbert does have some “nu-jazz” stuff in his playing style.

“nu-jazz” ?

I can already see the wikipedia article coming…

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How about urbandictionary?

Traditional jazz tracks overdubbed with a trip hop and/or Bossa Nova bassline. The freshened up melody is then laced with violins, vibes or live arrangements to create movement. If vocals are added, they are often by an emerging eclectic vocalist or sampled classic jazz lyrics. Nu jazz is a fusion of old jazz rhythms and modern mucical textures. Commercially, the generic version of the sound is branded as lounge music. Nu jazz has a click and a twist, the music has a silky feel and the ability to create a glossy atmosphere with a cool energy that has some soul.

I love Slipknot! Rock Hard!!

(but I prefer Stone Sour)

Just playin’ guys. I’m not quite there with the death metal yet…but I have a feeling I’m progressing into that.

Over the years I’ve gone from Korn, to Slipknot (mainstream stuff, egh) to bands like destroy the runner, disarmoia mundi and killswitch. as opposed to my other friends who went from slipknot and mudvayne to weak ass bands like some emo shit; ugh.

[quote]detazathoth wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
detazathoth wrote:
It’s alright these things happen, although I will say if you like SS, Mike Gilbert does have some “nu-jazz” stuff in his playing style.

“nu-jazz” ?

I can already see the wikipedia article coming…

How about urbandictionary?

Traditional jazz tracks overdubbed with a trip hop and/or Bossa Nova bassline. The freshened up melody is then laced with violins, vibes or live arrangements to create movement. If vocals are added, they are often by an emerging eclectic vocalist or sampled classic jazz lyrics. Nu jazz is a fusion of old jazz rhythms and modern mucical textures. Commercially, the generic version of the sound is branded as lounge music. Nu jazz has a click and a twist, the music has a silky feel and the ability to create a glossy atmosphere with a cool energy that has some soul.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nu+jazz[/quote]

God no…

I remember too well how the “nu-” part worked for metal.

And I hate it when people invent a new goddamn category for every tiny change in the music.

Even more amazing if you look at the promotional texts by labels such as nuclear blast… Like every band who has a contract with them apparently is so darned unique that it requires a whole new genre to be invented…
That would go something like this:

Ok, during one of their songs, band xyz uses a one-note riff and some polyrhythm is going on(or not, the one-note riffs are apparently enough on their own) during 5 seconds of one song on their new album.

Also, they have a break-down somewhere.

And the guitars are tuned so low that the strings hit the ground when played.

The shouter sounds like your average hardcore-shouter. I.e. no variation in his voice at all, etc…

Oh, and they have some simple power-cord staccato riffs here and there (or everywhere, as is more likely the case) played over some real simple 4/4 beat.

And they have an inverted cross on their CD cover.

And they use keyboard samples.

The drummer occasionally does a roll on the toms. Of which he has 2.
Both are triggered with the worst possible sound.

Best is saved for last: One of their songs in the middle of the album starts off with a dead-simple acoustic passage!

This clearly makes them:
“symphonic-math-death-jazz-industrial-crust-core-black’n’roll with oldschool-thrash influences and an edge that other bands do not possess, coupled with amazing technical aptitude, bone-crunching riffs and insane fills!”.

Mind you, the super-exotic band above probably sounds like your average hardcore-band in the end.

And because they are using a nuclear-blast producer, chances are that their kickdrums will be triggered to sound like pencils hitting a wooden desk at machine-gun speed.
I know that sound well, as do my colleagues at work (“STOP PLAYING DRUMS WITH PENCILS ON THE DESK” is what I get to hear daily).

If you put the record into your hi-fi, then you’ll even get some totally un-related and constant bass-drone along with the incessant click-click-click-click of the mighty doublebass…

Ok, I think I was trying to get a point across, but I forgot what it was.

And yeah, just because there’s a violin or keyboard (or both) in it, doesn’t make it “epic” or “symphonic” or “nu-” either.

And just because it uses a some “new” time-signatures or whatever doesn’t make it a new goddamn genre.
It just means that the musicians have decided to be “creative” for once.

If some rhythm-change turns jazz into nu-jazz, what does that make cryptopsy?
Frantic-count-metal? rhythmomorph-metal?
A new kind of metal with every new album, or more likely every second song?

Well the latest batch of tech-death bands from the US have been coming from California and they all have a progressive sound with nu jazz elements

i.e.
Deeds of Flesh
Decrepit Birth
Odious Mortem
The Faceless
Severed Saviour

[quote]detazathoth wrote:
Well the latest batch of tech-death bands from the US have been coming from California and they all have a progressive sound with nu jazz elements

i.e.
Deeds of Flesh
Decrepit Birth
Odious Mortem
The Faceless
Severed Saviour
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The faceless, odious mortem and decrepit birth have jazz elements?
I must be listening to the wrong albums all the time or something.

I do remember a tiny jazzy interlude on one SS song though (and I only have 2 songs of theirs… Actually need to remedy that).

What’s your fav. SS album?

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
And yeah, just because there’s a violin or keyboard (or both) in it, doesn’t make it “epic” or “symphonic” or “nu-” either.

And just because it uses a some “new” time-signatures or whatever doesn’t make it a new goddamn genre.
It just means that the musicians have decided to be “creative” for once.

If some rhythm-change turns jazz into nu-jazz, what does that make cryptopsy?
Frantic-count-metal? rhythmomorph-metal?
A new kind of metal with every new album, or more likely every second song?

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I’m not calling Cryptopsy “technical noisecore nuzz jazz polymorphic metal”

Cryptopsy is well Cryptopsy, I’m only describing elements of a band’s sound. If you listen to SS’s Servile Insurrection, which this whole petty arguement started from, Gilber does have parts in the album and even an instrumental that is somewhat like what Al Di Meola, who just happens to be a Jazz/Lation Musician. I’ll put SS and Cryptopsy under the banner of Brutal Death Metal, but I’m only analyzing the components of band’s sound? Ya dig?

On a related note, I probably shouldn’t do a review if my posts are being misinterpreted. lolz

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
If some rhythm-change turns jazz into nu-jazz, what does that make cryptopsy?
Frantic-count-metal? rhythmomorph-metal?
A new kind of metal with every new album, or more likely every second song?

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Hahaha! Frantic-Count-Metal. It actually fits them…

I am definitely glad the genre’s - Hmm… I don’t want to say “evolving,” but I like that some bands are actually taking steps to separate themselves from every other prototype that’s been made so far.

See Det’s post above.