Dealing with a Nut-job at Work

[quote]VealChop wrote:
Yeah! Let’s get DYFS on this guy too! You know, castration isn’t a bad bet as well, people like this should not be allowed to procreate. He should die alone in a cave.[/quote]

VealChop I don’t know why you are deliberately misunderstanding the situation but it has been detailed to you point by point where the freak has perpetrated stalking behavior.

You seem heavily invested in giving really bad advice. Maybe you are a stalker just struggling to be understood and left to harass your victim.

Another '09 to be ignored.

Good luck to you Deb. I hope this all works out the best way possible for you and that you stay safe.

[quote]ViziVix wrote:
Sorry, what’s weird about it?

A lot of the responses read something like . . . “if YOU do THIS, then HE’LL do THAT.” If a person is unstable, then their responses to anything will be wildly unpredictable.

Whatever this person’s problem is, Debra did NOT CAUSE it; she can’t CONTROL it. She can only do what she must, and feels comfortable with doing, to protect herself.

Stalking and Domestic Violence [/quote]

dude, we were joking

Good luck to you Deb. I hope this all works out the best way possible for you and that you stay safe.

EDIT: I meant it so much I had to post it twice. =)

YES! OP must build a safe room! It must be stocked with enough food and water to last a year, and it must be loaded with guns and ammo. However, there should be no communication with the outside world, no phone and no internet, otherwise, her stalker could continue to send her unwanted emails and voicemails in there too.

[quote]VealChop wrote:
YES! OP must build a safe room! It must be stocked with enough food and water to last a year, and it must be loaded with guns and ammo. However, there should be no communication with the outside world, no phone and no internet, otherwise, her stalker could continue to send her unwanted emails and voicemails in there too. [/quote]

don’t bother. dude, any idea that shows opposition is wrong around here. Especially if it means taking a passive route. Just let it go.

What’s my bad advice? All I’m saying is don’t overreact! I clearly said, if this is making her uncomfortable at work, then talk to HR, which she did. If she legitimately feels in danger, THEN bring in the police. But people here are quick to tell her to go to HR, go to the police, tell his wife, and buy a gun…I mean really now.

This guy is clearly a creep, I just don’t think his actions warrant the electric chair just yet.

There’s nothing more dangerous than putting a bunch of women together and having them advise each other.

I apologize. I didn’t mean to freak anyone (including myself) out. It’s just that, for personal reasons, I take this type of situation very seriously.

Debra,
Tough situation. If you can swing it, get a good lawyer to advise you or maybe even contact your local government’s domestic crisis hotline/battered women’s shelter, or something along those lines. They often have experience in dealing with stalker issues and they can help you anonymously. Even if they can’t directly help, it’s got to be better than some of the tripe being offered up here.

Good luck,
DB

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]VealChop wrote:
YES! OP must build a safe room! It must be stocked with enough food and water to last a year, and it must be loaded with guns and ammo. However, there should be no communication with the outside world, no phone and no internet, otherwise, her stalker could continue to send her unwanted emails and voicemails in there too. [/quote]

don’t bother. dude, any idea that shows opposition is wrong around here. Especially if it means taking a passive route. Just let it go.[/quote]

Yeah I’ve given my 2 cents, I should know by now, when 80% of the population is irrational, having sensibility is a disorder. Whatever, good luck Deb, hope the situation comes to a conclusion in the least disruptive way for you, something short of a SWAT intervention.

[quote]VealChop wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]VealChop wrote:
YES! OP must build a safe room! It must be stocked with enough food and water to last a year, and it must be loaded with guns and ammo. However, there should be no communication with the outside world, no phone and no internet, otherwise, her stalker could continue to send her unwanted emails and voicemails in there too. [/quote]

don’t bother. dude, any idea that shows opposition is wrong around here. Especially if it means taking a passive route. Just let it go.[/quote]

Yeah I’ve given my 2 cents, I should know by now, when 80% of the population is irrational, having sensibility is a disorder. Whatever, good luck Deb, hope the situation comes to a conclusion in the least disruptive way for you, something short of a SWAT intervention.[/quote]

Every time I quote you it feels like I’ve captured a little piece of your soul.

hehehehe :}

[quote]VealChop wrote:
Wait, now he’s clogging up her GMAIL account too??? Hurry! There’s no time to waste, restraining order for that son of a bitch! Oh wait, turns out everyone has access to her personal email.

Geez, she already got the ball rolling again with HR, whenever they’re back in the office, they should handle it. They have to earn their pay somehow, this is part of the reason they are a corporate department. Done. [/quote]

Now you know why some of us are so concerned. The looney FOLLOWS her, calls her just to hear her voice, and has gone to considerable trouble to get her email address after being warned he’d lose his job if he didn’t cut that sh*t out. On top of it all, his wife just had a baby which means the entire time she was pregnant he was consumed not by thoughts of becoming a dad but by thoughts of Debra. Creepy as Hell.

Also, on the surface he seems normal and harmless. That’s what everyone said about Ted Bundy. I want Debra to be alarmed enough to take action to protect her job, sure, but more importantly, her LIFE. Everyone has had obsessive crushes but this is waaaay over the top and should be taken seriously.

As an aside, this is one of the reasons companies have fraternization rules (to protect themselves) and why some of us NEVER EVER get involved with co-workers. Things end, and you never know just what will happen when your thing ends with wounded feelings. To have to endure a potentially threatening presence 40 hours a week (and, sometimes, to have that threat continue off the clock) is a heavy burden. And boyfriends aren’t supermen.

Don’t humiliate him. He seem’s crazy so there’s no telling what that could do.

I’d contact HR and get a restraining order, because like it or not, people are insane. I’d also like other people said get a taser or/and some kinda small pistol. Better safe than sorry.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
I’m forming a posse. Situation will be resolved quickly and effectively. Who will ride with me?[/quote]

I’m the second one from the left, second row.

DB

Deb,

My wife had a stalker when I first started dating her. Supposedly some big dude who everyone said was a crazy mofo. He graduated in her class and everyone was telling me to watch out cause this kid was crazy and looking for me or whatever. He was some sort of a wannabe rapper and wrote a song about her, the typical bullshit how she ruined his life and she is such a whore and how he is going to kill her bullshit. We didn’t call the cops. I simply know some people he knows and they were the ones telling me to watch out. I responded with comments like “whats taking him so long, he knows where I am.” I mean when push comes to shove, you have to be willing to hurt someone who wants to hurt you.

I would not go to the police at this point but I would go to HR. The police do not prevent crimes, the investigate them after the fact. You and your ability and willingness to perpetrate violence against another human being is all that you can count on to keep yourself safe. Something as simple as carrying mace or a knife can dramatically increase your survival chances if he does try to attack you. Get a gun if you can, Get a knife, get spray and make sure you are willing to use them. If you have time and or energy, training courses in the use of said implements are really effective.

If you want to just scare the absolute shit out of the guy, buy a katana, meet him in the parking lot, take it out of your car and unsheath it. Tell him if he wants his balls cut off and stuffed in his mouth and then decapitated after that, to keep fucking with you. Guns don’t scare people nearly as much as a sword does. I second getting a brother, father, cousin, male friend etc… to go “talk” to him. He has to believe that if he keeps this course of action up, he will und up buried in a shallow grave, or at the bottom of a lake, or sold as a meatpie in chinatown. If you plan on taking it to him outside of the law, you have to be believeable and you might actually have to follow through with some violence, or someone on your behalf might have to.

I personally hate stalkers. This other dude never actively stalked her once I started dating her, but I had to hear about it, and I had to worry about it. At the time she worked at a gas station and closed often, with one other girl at 11:00 at night. I didn’t like that and would routinely come to the store to get something and hang out till she was safely driving down the road. I even had some nightmares about it. I have never woken up with such bloodlust in my entire life. I mean seriously it infuriates me to no end. People actively trying to ruin another persons life is shit I just cannot stand. I can undertsand why people mug other people, why passion crimes happen, why people break into houses and steal shit, possibly kill someone who got in the way. I can understand most crime. Stalking is just twisted fucks deriving pleasure out of making someone else’s life a miserable hell and I want to terminate these types of people.

Sorry for the rant, but like I said, this has hit close to home for me. And remember, nobody stalks a lunatic with a bloodlust. If you dig deep enough you can find the part of you that wants to make this guy suffer and you can call upon it when you need to. I would have access to that part of you in case you need it.

V

Sorry if this is a re-post. I’ve found some great information here…www.nononsenseselfdefense.com.

Someone put the link up in another thread, hopefully Mr. and Ms. Mod will leave the information here as well.

Personally, I like bear spray! Legal for anyone, anytime I’m pretty certain. It’s considered “defensive” rather than “offensive”. After you protect yourself (god forbid) you still have to call the cops. Unless of course, you remembered to dig the whole first!

Good luck and God speed. ERIC D.

[quote]Vegita wrote:

If you want to just scare the absolute shit out of the guy, buy a katana, meet him in the parking lot, take it out of your car and unsheath it. Tell him if he wants his balls cut off and stuffed in his mouth and then decapitated after that, to keep fucking with you… If you plan on taking it to him outside of the law, you have to be believeable and you might actually have to follow through with some violence

V[/quote]

Veg,

Have you lost your freaking mind?

Violence or threats are not the answer for this guy. He knows his family and career are at stake and he still can’t control his compulsion. Do you guys really think the threat of bodily harm will stop him? I think Deb is handling it perfectly. She’s going through the proper channels and taking steps to protect herself.

I see Debra hasn’t posted today. I hope the shits not hitting the fan.