Deadlifts & Trenbolone 4 the Win

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The problem for me, would be hunger. I think I would be feeling like I am starving if I ate such high calorie dense food, since the volume of food to meet those calories is so low.

IMO, some people are too strict on food. I don’t count macros, just calories and protein. At the same time eating a 1000 calories of gummy bears, or ice cream a day consistently would be worth addressing IMO. It doesn’t have to be chicken breasts and broccoli to be a huge improvement. A bagel with egg, bacon and cheese would be a huge upgrade (even though some would get roasted for having that in their diets).

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I enjoy this thread. Every time I give myself shit over my meals for the day, I come here and read this, it reminds me that maybe that burger wasn’t the worst thing I could have eaten in the day. I can’t see how this diet could work for longevity, and systemic inflammation. But I think OP is still quite young(?), if it’s working for now, good luck to you.

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I’d say you can eat sub-optimally and make nearly the same gains as when you’re eating optimally. I think for long term health eating like him is very bad, don’t get me wrong, eating shit for 1000/2800 kcal (40%) will shoot inflammation through the roof.
But I don’t think bloods will show it since bloods show LDL and Blood sugar which aren’t necessarily affected if you’re training hard (high insulin sensitivity) and are in a deficit I (leannes → Insulin sensitivity) because high instilling sensitivity combined with using every macronutrient you put into your body (deficit) keeps these things in check. Until CRP changes on blood results you got to have serious inflammation problems too.

So I make two points:

  1. In the long run it’s bad for health to eat like him.
  2. You will have an equally successful diet with 40% of your macros coming from shit.

I think there’s something to IIFYM.
In my opinion you should eat as healthy as possible that means: the right amount of calories, the right amount of protein as mnben said. Then enough fruits, veggies especially green and relatively lean meat and other natural stuff like olive oil.
If you do that for 2500 kcal per day then you can eat whatever you want for the last 500 and I think your body won’t care.
I believe strongly that too strict of a diet doesn’t make any sense. Where’s the difference between jacking up insulin with 2 bananas or with 50 g of Gummi bears if you account for other nutrients (like eating 200 g Brokkoli that Gummi bear Day)?
If you’re talking about very inflammatory stuff this changes though (like some trans fats are believed to do).

I do it exactly like mnben, I’ll try to eat at least 1-2 green veggies a day as an add on.

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Week 3 Day 2 13/07/2020

Sleep - 6hrs (0300 to 0900)

Body weight - 225.9lbs

Diet & Drugs
0930 - 300mg caffeine, 40mg anavar
1030 - egges, veggies, coconut oil, almonds, carnberry juice, orange juice, coffee with milk, wrap with pb&honeay&j, apple (600kcal, 25g protein)
1030- 1g taurine, 1g l-glutamine, 100mg 5-htp, 250mg choline, 250mg inositol, 5mg biotin, 400iu vit e, 100mg p5p
1130 - wrap with chocolate (400kcal, 5g protein)
1130 - 10g psylium husk, 600mg nac, 100mg p5p
1700 - wrap with chocolate (2050kcal, 25g protein)
1800 - testP 10mg, trenE 30mg, mastP 20mg
1830 - 200mg magnesium, 15mg zinc picolinate, 500mg l-tryptophan

  • Total calories 3050kcal, total protein 55g
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From previous posts -he’s 21 which explains a lot. This still feels like intermediate level trolling

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Week 3 Day 3 14/07/2020

Sleep - 8hrs (1830 to 2130 + 0030 to 0530)
*had a 1hr nap (0930 to 1030)

Body weight - 224.4lbs

Training - back
(2115 to 2130)
Neutral grip pulldown 3x8
Wide grip cable row 2x8
Cable pullover 2x8
Decline crunchs 2x6
DB side bend 1x6

Diet & Drugs
0530 - 100mg caffeine, 10mg anavar
0730 - eggs, veggies, coconut oil, almonds, orange, cranberry juice, coffee with milk, cookies, whey protein, 10g psylium husk (1000kcal, 45g protein)
0730 - 500mg taurine, 500mg l-glutamine, 100mg 5-htp, 250mg choline, 250mg inositol, 5mg biotin, 400iu vit e, 100mg p5p
0830 - wrap with chocolate, cookies (500kcal, 5g protein)
0830 - 600mg nac, 100mg p5p
1100 - pasta, chicken breast (300kcal, 20g protein)
1300 - wheat snack, chocolate bar (400kcal, 7g protein)
1530 - jelly beans (200kcal, 0g protein)
1700 - 100mg caffeine
2030 - pasta, chicken breast, cookies (800kcal, 45g protein)
2030 - 30mg anavar, 200mg caffeine, 5g citrulline
2100 - headache pill (aspirin, paracetamol, caffeine)
2100 - cookies (300kcal, 3g protein)
2130 - cookies (800kcal, 10g protein)
2245 - 200mg magnesium, 15mg zinc picolinate, 500mg l-tryptophan

  • Total calories 4300kcal, total protein 135g
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Is this correct? You only worked back for 15 minutes?

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I saw that too and then saw this. Think he meant 2215

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Week 3 Day 4 15/07/2020

Sleep - 8hrs (2200 to 2300 + 0000 to 0700)

Body weight - 225lbs

Training - chest and back
(1645 to 1715)
Bench 2x15x20kg, 2x12x40kg, 2x10x60kg, 2x8x80kg, 1x6x100kg
Cable flys 5x8
Dead hang pull ups to chest 3x5
Reverse grip barbell row 4x6
Knee raise X decline oblique twist 2x 12+15 sec

Diet & Drugs
0730 - 200mg caffeine, 20mg anavar
1400 - eggs, veggies, coconut oil, almonds, cranberry juice, orange juice, whey protein, 10g psylium husk, coffee with milk, chocolate (700kcal, 40g protein)
1400 - 500mg taurine, 500mg l-glutamine, 100mg 5-htp, 250mg choline, 250mg inositol, 5mg biotin, 400iu vit e, 100mg p5p
1530 - PB&honey&J sandwich (350kcal, 10g protein)
1530 - 15g citrulline, 20mg anavar, 200mg caffeine
1600 - gummy bears (500kcal, 10g protein)
1630 - chocolate bar (300kcal, 5g protein)
1730 - whey protein (150kcal, 30g protein)
1730 - 600mg nac, 100mg p5p
1900 - chocolate (600kcal, 10g protein)
2000 - gummy snakes (150kcal, 5g protein)
2200 - 600mg magnesium, 25mg zinc picolinate, 500mg l-tryptophan

  • Total calories 2750kcal, total protein 110g
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I had a serious headache so it really was 15min + its a deload week so it was light anyway.

*missed my Wednesday injection so going to combine my Wednesday+Friday dose today (Thursday).

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I’d feel and perform like garbage if I ate like this.

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Got a video of a 600+ lb pull?

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Deadlift 735@260@oct19

3" deficit deadlift 700@225@apr20

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You sir are a beast of man. Well done.

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Was holding off of criticism of any dietary issues for this exact reason. Very nice pull. Love when you ask someone on the internet for proof and they put it up immediately, haha.

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And you’re 21? Good job man. Very impressive.

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yea i was 21 at those videos, rn i’m 22.

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Week 3 Day 5 16/07/2020

Sleep - 6.5hrs (2330 to 0600)

Body weight - 223.3lbs

Training - shoulders
(1630 to 1710)
OHP 10x20kg, 8x40kg, 6x60kg, 4x80kg, 2x90kg, 1x102kg
Face pulls 3x8
DB lateral raises 3x8
DB shrugs 2x8
Rope cable crunchs 4x6
Cable side bend 2x6

Diet & Drugs
0600 - 200mg caffeine, 10mg anavar
1400 - eggs, veggies, coconut oil, almonds, orange juice, cranberry juice, coffee with milk, whey protein, 10g psylium husk, chocolate (1000kcal, 40g protein)
1400 - 500mg taurine, 500mg l-glutamine, 100mg 5-htp, 250mg choline, 250mg inositol, 5mg biotin, 400iu vit e, 100mg p5p
1500 - gummy bears (500kcal, 10g protein)
1530 - 15g citrulline, 300mg caffeine, 30mg anavar
1800 - pasta, chicken hearts (500kcal, 25g protein)
1800 - 600mg nac, 100mg p5p
2030 - 20mg testP, 60mg TrenE, 40mg mastP
2100 - chocolate (500kcal, 5g protein)
2200 - 100mg caffeine
0300 - pizza (2700kcal, 105g protein)
0645 - 200mg magnesium, 15mg zinc picolinate, 500mg l-tryptophan

  • Total calories 5200kcal, Total protein 185g

Week 3 Day 6 17/07/2020

Sleep - 4hrs (0700 to 1100)

Body weight - 224.6lbs

Training - arms
(1300 to 1320)
Rope tricep ext X hammer curls 3x8+8
Cable tricep ext X barbell curls 3x8+8
Barbell crunchs 2x6
Side knee raise 1x12

Diet&Drugs
1100 - 300mg caffeine, 40mg anavar
1200 - coffee with milk, almonds, chocolate (400kcal, 10g protein)
1200 - 500mg taurine, 500mg l-glutamine, 100mg 5-htp, 250mg choline, 250mg inositol, 5mg biotin, 400iu vit e, 100mg p5p
1230 - 20g citrulline
1330 - whey protein, 3g psylium husk (50kcal, 10g protein)
1330 - 600mg nac, 100mg p5p
1800 - pasta, chicken hearts (500kcal, 25g protein)

  • Total calories 950kcal, total protein 45g

Week 3 Day 7 18/07/2020

Sleep - 7hrs (0200 to 0900)

Body weight - 222.9lbs

Training - chest, back and shoulders
(1050 to 1150)
GHR crunchs X GHR oblique twist 5x6+15
Bench press w/15kg band tension 1x40kg+bands, 4x1x60kg+bands, 1x100kg+bands, 1x120kg+bands, 30x40kg+bands
Football bar rows 6x12
Foot ball bar front raises 2x20
Barbell upright rows 2x6
Plate shrugs 2x10

Diet&Drugs
0900 - 300mg caffeine, 20mg anavar
1000 - pb&honey sanwich, gummy bears, chocolate (700kcal, 15g protein)
1000 - 500mg taurine, 500mg l-glutamine, electrolytes, 20mg anavar, 100mg caffeine
1100 - (intra workout) cyclic dextrin, bcaa’s (100kcal, 5g protein)
1200 - whey protein, 10g psylium (200kcal, 40g protein)
1300 - 200mg p5p, 600mg nac, 5mg bition, 250mg choline, 250mg inositol, 400iu vitamin e
1330 - pasta, chicken hearts, veggies, coconut oil, cranberry juice, orange juice, chocolate (1700kcal, 45g protein)
1900 - ice cream (350kcal, 5g protein)
2030 - ice cream (350kcal, 5 g protein)
0030 - ice cream (1350kcal, 20g protein)
0100 - chocolate, gummy bears (1700kcal, 25g protein)
0130 - 200mg magnesium, 15mg zinc picolinate, 500mg l-tryptophan

  • Total calories 6450kcal, total protein 160g
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Week 3 summary

Avg body weight - 223.9lbs
(lowest - 221lbs, highest 225.9lbs)
=0.4lbs down

Avg calories - 3750kcal per day
(lowest - 950kcal, highest - 6450kcal)

Avg sleep - 6hrs and 50min
(lowest - 4hrs, highest - 8hrs)

Had a hectic week so i emotionally binge ate a lot and ended up at maintenance/slight deficit calories wise but i have 7wks to fix it (4 lbs to go down).
Slept more but quality was shit so i hope the coming week will be better.
Took 4 days off training and only did short low volume workouts because it was a “deload”.
Did not progress at all this week but on the other hand i have not regressed as well so its all good in the hood :blush:

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Week 4 Day 1 19/07/2020

Sleep - 5hrs (0130 to 0630)

Body weight - 223.5lbs

Training - dynamic effort
(0015 to 0115)
Circuit warm up
GHR back ext 15 reps
GHR crunchs 6 reps
GHR oblique twist 15
Goblet squat 10 reps
Knee raise 6 reps
Plate side bend 6 reps
Plate row 8 reps
Plank
1-arm plate farmers walk

Above parallel box squat
1x3x100kg, 1x2x180kg, 3x1x230kg, 1x1x250kg, 1x1x272kg

Barbell jumps 1x2x20kg, 1x2x40kg, 1x2x50kg
Vertical jumps - 2 jumps
Broad jump - 2 jumps

Diet & Drugs
0730 - 200mg caffeine, 10mg anavar
0830 - bun with salmon, coffee with milk, chocolate (400kcal, 15g protein)
0900 - 600mg nac, 500mg taurine, 500mg l-glutamine, 100mg 5-htp, 250mg choline, 250mg inositol, 5mg biotin, 400iu vit e, 100mg p5p
1100 - chocolate bar (100kcal 1g protein)
1130 - schnitzel (500kcal, 50g protein)
1200 - pita with chocolate (350kcal, 10g protein)
1300 - pasta, schnitzel, 3g psylium husk (300kcal, 18g protein)
1630 - pita with unknown meat (300kcal, 20g protein)
1700 - 20mg anavar
1900 - pasta, chicken hearts, veggies (450kcal, 20g protein)
2200 - vanilla toast (50kcal, 1g protein)
2245 - 10mg anavar, 20g citrulline, energy drink (150mg caffeine)
2330 - 10mg anavar
0130 - whey protein (100kcal, 20g protein)
0245 - vanilla toast (150kcal, 5g protein)
0300 - 200mg magnesium, 15mg zinc picolinate, 500mg l-tryptophan

  • Total calories 2700kcal, total protein 160g