[quote]Michael Crehan wrote:
You can always lower a heavier weight than you can lift concentrically. I know just about everyone disagrees with the way I do it, but I still say it’s better. After practicing it this way for a long time, the eccentric has become easier. People just focus more on the concentric portion of a deadlift, so they are naturally better at it.[/quote]
So now you’re really good at putting weights down. I train to pick weights up, not put them down.
[quote]Michael Crehan wrote:
[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
[quote]Michael Crehan wrote:
You can always lower a heavier weight than you can lift concentrically. I know just about everyone disagrees with the way I do it, but I still say it’s better. After practicing it this way for a long time, the eccentric has become easier. People just focus more on the concentric portion of a deadlift, so they are naturally better at it.[/quote]
How much do you deadlift?[/quote]
I don’t train for strength, but I’ve done 385 raw at 160 and 365 raw at 155. Perfect form, placed it on the ground gently. I’m 170 now and more muscular all over, but I’m not as strong on it. I’ve just been lifting in the high 200’s lately, although I don’t pull from the floor much these days. Usually I do mid 300’s to low 400’s from above the knee, good for lats.[/quote]
I lol’d
I just read this whole thread and now I don’t want to deadlift anymore.
[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
[quote]Michael Crehan wrote:
My advice on deadlifting goes as far as being injury free, building the hamstrings, and building the back.[/quote]
This is the powerlifting forum. The concern with training the deadlift here is building the deadlift, and the approach you have utilized is not ideal for that situation.[/quote]
this.
[quote]Reed wrote:
There is a big difference between doing what Benedict did in that video as opposed to lowering so slow “you don’t make a sound” or “not break an egg”
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and this.
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^ha!
If I tried lowering my deadlifts for “hypertrophy effect” I’d destroy my back pretty quickly
[quote]panzerfaust wrote:
^ha!
If I tried lowering my deadlifts for “hypertrophy effect” I’d destroy my back pretty quickly[/quote]
If you want that, you’re way better off with RDL’s or SLDL’s.
Interesting to see what people think about this. I have got used to lower my deadlifts about the same way as in the video of benedikt above. It was alot of effort at first but now it feels natural.
[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
[quote]panzerfaust wrote:
^ha!
If I tried lowering my deadlifts for “hypertrophy effect” I’d destroy my back pretty quickly[/quote]
If you want that, you’re way better off with RDL’s or SLDL’s. [/quote]
Touch and gos are good too.
Bottom line is if your serious about your training then you need to find another gym. Tell those soft globo gymers next time they give you shit that they are pitiful and they are putting you personal safety at risk by telling you that. My best pull is in competition is 540 and if i tried lowering that weight gently I could get hurt and if i didn’t get hurt it would take me like 2 weeks to recover.
[quote]Reed wrote:
[quote]Triceptaurus wrote:
Lowering “slowly” is not dangerous. At least, no more than picking it up. The only issue there is where you put it down without keeping the bar close to your body and a tight lower back. In other words, lowering it like you lifted it.
Notice how benny lowers the weight here with 460kg. He said in an interview later that he does that coz he trains in an upstairs gym and the lower floor doesn’t like the crashing and banging.
Dat said, tell the gym that you are taking your money elsewhere. Go find a proper gym. They will probably charge less as well as have better gear.
There is a big difference between doing what Benedict did in that video as opposed to lowering so slow “you don’t make a sound” or “not break an egg”
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I try to put them down like this./ not silent, but not smashing the ground. Pull 615 at 198 fwiw.
Right now Josh has me doing heavy timed singles. 525 x1, 6 reps two minutes rest. I’ll put them down under control. He then has me do trap bar dls and I try to go light touch and go, almost continuous tension. It’s been helping my start and hitting my hamstrings pretty well.
As for injury prevention, I think it’s important to maintain solid control on the way down or just drop it. I’d rather not bust up my floor so i control it but not crazy quiet.
And to the OP, get your own stuff or a new gym.
I thought this thread needed a bump. About 1:30 into this movie is a a good example of how to lower weights imo.