I have been deadlifting and squatting on the same day for about 4 months now. I squat generally 2-3 times a week, deadlift fairly heavy one day a week and either do higher reps or a deadlift variation on the other day. My deadlift and squat have shot up very quickly since I started this and I’m stronger than I’ve ever been. I was wondering if anyone else had experienced this because the general consensus is not to squat and deadlift on the same day due to CNS fatigue. Do you deadlift and squat on the same day? Why or why not?
im all for doing things more often but i find that if i do things, like pause deadlifts for example after squats it will effect my deadlifts in the following days,so im a fan of high frequency upperbody but higher volume on lower body days,when first starting out a couple years back i benched/squatted/ deadlifted every day 5 days a week, so when i design beginner workouts i take the whole idea of “practicing” a lift to a new level
Been squatting and deadlifting on the same day for years. I keep getting stronger.
I try to avoid listening to the general consensus, because in general, far more people are unsuccessful than successful.
[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
Been squatting and deadlifting on the same day for years. I keep getting stronger.
I try to avoid listening to the general consensus, because in general, far more people are unsuccessful than successful.[/quote]
That’s right…
I squat ‘heavy’ and then take a few singles. Not a problem and I’m an old fuck. You young spry motherfuckers aught to be kicking ass doing something like this. get after it and it will come.
If you’re making gains, then do things like “CNS fatigue” really matter?
[quote]OBoile wrote:
If you’re making gains, then do things like “CNS fatigue” really matter?[/quote]
Wasn’t really concerned about it since I’m obviously not feeling what everyone talks about lol. Just wanted to know what everyone else’s experiences have been.
[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
I try to avoid listening to the general consensus, because in general, far more people are unsuccessful than successful.[/quote]
So insightful. So much wisdom. QFT.
I wish I could squat and dead or even squat and bench in the same day, but squatting takes 45-60 minutes alone for me, without any other work involved, so I just run out of time.
And, I have benched in the same day, used to do it a lot, but I cramp up now and my lower back gets fatigued, so I cant’ push as much weight.
I think doing less than 85% of 1rm sessions and you can do both in the same day no problem, once you get more than 85% or so, you may be too fatigued to push as much weight as you could on a separate day.
But, the best advice was above, i’ll rephrase it, if it isn’t broke, don’t fix it! I tried to fix something that wasn’t broke recently, wasted 2 months of training, never again!
For me I always found squatting primed me for pulling. I always preferred it if everything is right.
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
For me I always found squatting primed me for pulling. I always preferred it if everything is right. [/quote]
Same here. Haven’t had much luck pulling first, though.
Andy Bolton trains that way. Even with both lifts heavy on the same day. I remember him saying ?you have to do it at the meet.?
Always worked for me. I did the following once a week:
Squats
Deads
Leg Press
Leg Ext.
Leg Curls
Reverse-Hyper Ext.
Calves
Then usually gorged myself on a fat, big, juicy, steak and baked potato after.
[quote]biggjames wrote:
Always worked for me. I did the following once a week:
Squats
Deads
Leg Press
Leg Ext.
Leg Curls
Reverse-Hyper Ext.
Calves
Then usually gorged myself on a fat, big, juicy, steak and baked potato after.[/quote]
^^^ this
thats my leg day workout. Every few weeks ill swap around the order but i like to start with squats and finish with deads
I train my squat and deadlift on the same day and have a different day for squat/dead aux work.
[quote]biggjames wrote:
Always worked for me. I did the following once a week:
Squats
Deads
Leg Press
Leg Ext.
Leg Curls
Reverse-Hyper Ext.
Calves
Then usually gorged myself on a fat, big, juicy, steak and baked potato after.[/quote]
I bet that rev hyper really helps with bringing your squat and DL up?
[quote]lumbernac wrote:
I bet that rev hyper really helps with bringing your squat and DL up?
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I never understood why reverse hypers costs a grand until I got one.
It’s because they’re worth it. I wish I bought one years ago.
I feel it is the one assistance exercise that helped me achieve a 700+ Deadlift.
[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
[quote]lumbernac wrote:
I bet that rev hyper really helps with bringing your squat and DL up?
[/quote]
I never understood why reverse hypers costs a grand until I got one.
It’s because they’re worth it. I wish I bought one years ago.[/quote]
[quote]biggjames wrote:
I feel it is the one assistance exercise that helped me achieve a 700+ Deadlift.[/quote]
Would you suggest getting a Reverse Hyper over a GHR?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
[quote]lumbernac wrote:
I bet that rev hyper really helps with bringing your squat and DL up?
[/quote]
I never understood why reverse hypers costs a grand until I got one.
It’s because they’re worth it. I wish I bought one years ago.[/quote]
[quote]biggjames wrote:
I feel it is the one assistance exercise that helped me achieve a 700+ Deadlift.[/quote]
Would you suggest getting a Reverse Hyper over a GHR?[/quote]
That is a tough question for me having not really ever used a GHR. I do not have one in my home facility as where I do have the Reverse-Hyper. Sorry if I am not any help on your question.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Would you suggest getting a Reverse Hyper over a GHR?[/quote]
I’d suggest getting both. Otherwise, I couldn’t really say one over the other, because they do different things. I like the GHR because I can grease the groove with it if I wanted to and use it for other stuff (back extensions and sit up), and it’s a great way to get some more hamstring work in, but the reverse hyper is awesome because it’s one of the few ways to directly train the lower back without putting weight on your back or in your hands.