Deadlift Starting Position

Training Powerlifting
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[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]yolo84 wrote:

[quote]@JC_Tree_Trunks wrote:
If you guys dont mind can you tell me where you place the bar at the starting position relative to your feet?[/quote]

lol it’s not going to add 100lbs dude.

did you read my above post?

i imagine everyone starts a DL with the bar very close or touching their body, any other way is inefficient and makes no sense, by putting unnecessary strain on the low back.
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I disagree. I start with the bar further out. By doing that, I’m able to pull back rather than up by rolling the bar a bit. When I had the bar closer to me, there was more of a likelihood the bar would drift out in front of me creating the inefficiency you mentioned. This has helped quite a bit with my speed off the floor.

I wouldn’t suggest it for everyone but that change in set up has worked well for me.
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But by the time the bar leaves the ground, is it over your mid-foot?[/quote]

Yes it likely is. However, the actual starting point if further out. It certainly doesn’t travel in a straight line.
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Thanks this is a very informative answer and was exactly what I was looking for. I dont care how obvious these issues are theoretically, I want to see what people have tried and how it works in actuality.

Btw, I just had a huge day deadlifting, I did some deficit deadlifts, went up to 505 and get a single real easy. And the thing I did that really really helps is bring my feet in super close. Like to the point that there is likely less than 6 inches in between my feet. Maybe less than 4. For some reason it helped me like crazy to power it up at the start and then the finish has never been an issue with me. Does anyone else do this?

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[quote]@JC_Tree_Trunks wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]yolo84 wrote:

[quote]@JC_Tree_Trunks wrote:
If you guys dont mind can you tell me where you place the bar at the starting position relative to your feet?[/quote]

lol it’s not going to add 100lbs dude.

did you read my above post?

i imagine everyone starts a DL with the bar very close or touching their body, any other way is inefficient and makes no sense, by putting unnecessary strain on the low back.
[/quote]

I disagree. I start with the bar further out. By doing that, I’m able to pull back rather than up by rolling the bar a bit. When I had the bar closer to me, there was more of a likelihood the bar would drift out in front of me creating the inefficiency you mentioned. This has helped quite a bit with my speed off the floor.

I wouldn’t suggest it for everyone but that change in set up has worked well for me.
[/quote]

But by the time the bar leaves the ground, is it over your mid-foot?[/quote]

Yes it likely is. However, the actual starting point if further out. It certainly doesn’t travel in a straight line.
[/quote]

Thanks this is a very informative answer and was exactly what I was looking for. I dont care how obvious these issues are theoretically, I want to see what people have tried and how it works in actuality.

Btw, I just had a huge day deadlifting, I did some deficit deadlifts, went up to 505 and get a single real easy. And the thing I did that really really helps is bring my feet in super close. Like to the point that there is likely less than 6 inches in between my feet. Maybe less than 4. For some reason it helped me like crazy to power it up at the start and then the finish has never been an issue with me. Does anyone else do this?[/quote]

Probably couldn’t see that from the video (the foot spacing) but that’s usually the first thing I have my clients do is bring them in. Most people have way too wide of a conventional setup both in feet spacing and in how far they put their hands out. Moving your feet in generally gives you an improved biomechanical leverage due to shortening the range, allowing for more quad activation off the floor (which will translate to more speed), and allowing you to get much more triple joint action.

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Yes. I thought it was just natural for me because I have narrow hip bones.

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Thanks alot guys! Ok now I feel better about this aspect going into nats. Deadlift is definately my biggest variable. Now I’m just going to do deficit deads all the way until my deadlifts in the actual meet, I think that will help psychologically. Even warming up at the meet doing deficit deads

Thanks alot again everyone

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[quote]louiek wrote:

[quote]vali wrote:
Haha that actually looks like a good pull man, looks like you need to learn to grind through lifts.[/quote]

I actually got 425 before that and my legs were shaking. I decided, fuck it, added 20 instead of just 10 (like a smart person would do) and then hit it. I was pulling and pulling and I got to that point where I was like “I’m gonna make it” and then a second later the bar just STOPPED and I knew it wasn’t going anywhere without hitching. My legs may have gotten out of position by like 10 degrees as well. I’ll have 455 next time, I know that much.

Felt that shit in my quads too. Like I said, pulling heavy I now realize how much my pull has changed since I last pulled a max.[/quote]

Just sounds like you were fatigued. Don’t worry, you’ll get it next time.