Dating Advice

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Cprimero wrote:
she’s a butch lesbian with short hair and thick neck (srsly)[/quote]
She’s definitely not butch lol. She’s fuckin cute. And if you think she has “a thick neck” then I pity the pencil that must be holding up your head. We’ll never know though, because unlike holymac you’re just one more dude on this site with no evidence whatsoever that you’ve ever lifted a day in your life.[/quote]

I agree about Beth being cute. She’s an athletic pretty, very wholesome and outdoorsy looking.

I don’t see “butch” at all. Butch lesbians intimidate me, but I would totally hang out with Beth.[/quote]
Summation: She ain’t butch.[/quote]

'Zactly. Thank you.

Stop worrying so much. You lack confidence. If you don’t believe in what you have to offer how do you expect someone else to.

Also the worst thing any girl can say is “no”. That’s it. Worse case scenario. So grab your balls tell the girl lets meet here at this time and do this. Never say let’s “do something” that is foo foo I lack confidence to the point where I can’t even decide on what to do with you.

This was my “pick up line” back in the day, it is fool proof.

“Hey, my name is Steven” and smile. See how easy that is? Then make small talk and before you are done with the conversation ask boldly “can I have you phone number? Id like to take you out one night”

When you feel comfortable call, never text unless you want to show how you are not confident to talk, and ask to take her out to dinner/drink/etc just always have a place and time ready.

Always tell the truth, be genuine and confident. If the girl says no to anything move on to one who says yes. There will always be one who will. Even fat guys are getting laid.

[quote]Waittz wrote:
Stop worrying so much. You lack confidence. If you don’t believe in what you have to offer how do you expect someone else to.

Also the worst thing any girl can say is “no”. That’s it. Worse case scenario. So grab your balls tell the girl lets meet here at this time and do this. Never say let’s “do something” that is foo foo I lack confidence to the point where I can’t even decide on what to do with you.

This was my “pick up line” back in the day, it is fool proof.

“Hey, my name is Steven” and smile. See how easy that is? Then make small talk and before you are done with the conversation ask boldly “can I have you phone number? Id like to take you out one night”

When you feel comfortable call, never text unless you want to show how you are not confident to talk, and ask to take her out to dinner/drink/etc just always have a place and time ready.

Always tell the truth, be genuine and confident. If the girl says no to anything move on to one who says yes. There will always be one who will. Even fat guys are getting laid. [/quote]

But what if she finds out his name isn’t really Steven?

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[quote]MytchBucanan wrote:

[quote]CircaThursday wrote:

[quote]MytchBucanan wrote:

[quote]tonypluto wrote:
It’s just like falling asleep
the harder you try
the less likely it is to happen.
Best advice on dating I ever got was to stop trying.
Stop worrying about it altogether.
Focus on your own life and accomplishing other goals.
Women like men who are ambitious and outgoing.

The more experiences and accomplishments you have under your belt
the more attractive and interesting you will be
as well as having greater confidence from having an incredible life.
In short
Be the person you’d like to have in your life
and then you will have that person in your life[/quote]

Best advice yet…[/quote]
no its terrible advice. OP is 26 and done with college. He has a career. He needs to go on dates so he can develop dating skills and social skills and gain experience and confidence. And get laid if he wants. He does not need to open a business or travel the world to date women

And OP since you don’t have a type you don’t know what personality characteristics you want in a girl. it takes time. date different types, don’t settle for a girl who just has common interests with you right away.
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I don’t disagree, but I think the point TonyPluto is making, is that those dates or more likely to happen (and go smoothly) if you don’t try so hard. I made the same mistakes when I was younger. I agree with you on the dating skills and experience for sure.[/quote]

Swap “don’t try” for “don’t be dependent on the outcome” and it’s great advice. Unless a guy gets approached by women all the time he will have to make an effort to go out and get dates.
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I agree. If men hadn’t made an effort I’d never have had my first date, first kissâ?¦first anything. Some women will initiate, but most won’t. I can manage the briefly sustained eye contact thing, but that’s about it.

I’ve had men express strong enthusiasm over me and it didn’t turn me off at all. Just the opposite. I’m enthusiastic and lacking in subterfuge myself, so it just feels reassuring to me. That’s assuming, of course, that he has qualities I’m interested in.

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
Stop worrying so much. You lack confidence. If you don’t believe in what you have to offer how do you expect someone else to.

Also the worst thing any girl can say is “no”. That’s it. Worse case scenario. So grab your balls tell the girl lets meet here at this time and do this. Never say let’s “do something” that is foo foo I lack confidence to the point where I can’t even decide on what to do with you.

This was my “pick up line” back in the day, it is fool proof.

“Hey, my name is Steven” and smile. See how easy that is? Then make small talk and before you are done with the conversation ask boldly “can I have you phone number? Id like to take you out one night”

When you feel comfortable call, never text unless you want to show how you are not confident to talk, and ask to take her out to dinner/drink/etc just always have a place and time ready.

Always tell the truth, be genuine and confident. If the girl says no to anything move on to one who says yes. There will always be one who will. Even fat guys are getting laid. [/quote]

But what if she finds out his name isn’t really Steven?[/quote]

Step 1: Replace Steven with Jake
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Get laid

Some of this advice is gold, some of it’s crap, haha.

First off, read these books:

How to Succeed With Women by Ron Louis and David something…

This mentions, in detail, what a lot of the ‘gold’ advice in here is. (Being a man in charge of his life, sexuality with women, HOW TO GET DATES, what to do on dates, gaining a sense of style, etc.) This would be a good starting point.

Superflirt by Tracy Cox is a basic guide to flirting with women and offers some good basic tips for someone in your position.

Those two books were recommended by a buddy of mine that I ended up reading and worked, but the following were recommended by AngryChicken in the old ‘confession/question’ thread…

Iron John by Robert Bly
The Six Pillars of Self Esteem by… forget.
Mind OS by Paul Dobransky

Those three will really help the most in the long run, but I’d still read those first two first. This is where you develop confidence WITH CONGRUENCE. Confidence without congruence means you’re phony and women smell that shit miles away.

Some other brilliant ones are:

How to Win Friends and Influence People - Dale Carnegie, I think…
The Secret by Rhonda Byrnes
Body language books! Most of our communication is done non-verbally through tone of voice, posture, body language, etc. Getting some insight on body language and putting it to practice will give you a huge advantage in talking to anyone.
The Art of Seduction, 48 Laws of Power, Mastery, and 33 Strategies of War all by Robert Green. Fucking incredible books.

Start approaching strangers and getting used to it - not even just girls. Just be social! Any chance you get! Also getting used to being rejected, lol. Talk to girls any chance you can. It’s weird at first, but being friendly and flirtatious with women will eventually become your new way of thinking.

You’re more golden than you even realize, man. A young guy who’s in great shape who just moved to a big city to work a ‘wall street type’ job. Dude, Chicago’s at your fingertips.

Since you’re new in town, use that as a topic to approach women. It’ll give you a bit of leeway with not being the confident “hey, lets go out for drinks. How’s XYZ bar at 8 on friday evening sound?” guy who’s got a plan for everything (as opposed to “I don’t know, what do you want to do?” sorta crap.) It’ll also give you an opportunity to ask her opinion on something (where to go in town) as well as get her talking about herself. If she recommends a restaurant, ask her what she eats there. If she recommends a bar, ask if that’s usually where her and her friends go out. (“yeah, come out with us one night” or “nah, we usually go…”) Then ask her questions about either going out with her and her friends one night OR why she likes going out to whatever place)

JUST KEEP HER TALKING ABOUT HERSELF. Everyone loves talking about themselves, especially women. Also, letting her do the talking while you can your trap shut accomplishes two things: It gives you less opportunity to say something stupid and screw it all up, lol, and it’ll give you a sense of mystery if she doesn’t know too much about you. You’re better off letting your personality unfold with time. (“Oh, you like incorporating Shakespeare quotes into your graffiti in downtown Chicago? Interesting…” “Oh, you do indoor rock climbing once a week? Interesting…”) Stuff like that will keep women on their toes a bit.

How’s your sense of fashion? If you’re working a wall st type job, you have every reason to look sharp as a mothafucka every day. You’re in sick shape, so it’ll be super easy for you to find good fitting clothes and look like a boss. Women like status, it’s proven. One way to get women to perceive you of higher status is to dress well.

If you don’t have a sense of style, get one. Read that fashion advice thread that was on here a while back. Waitzz KILLED it in there. A good wardrobe will impress women as well as giving you a bit of confidence when it comes to approaching them. You don’t have to dress like Ryan Gosling, but develop your own sense of style.

Do you use nootropics? L-theanine is incredible for decreasing anxiety and putting you in a good/positive mood. I take some before I go out. Pretty cheap if you buy it online in powder form, too. This will help you immensely with anxiety at first. It’s great stuff even when it comes to other stuff, but it’s definitely relevant in this situation.

It’s not necessarily that you have to try less, as a matter of fact, you’re going to have to put more effort into dating than you currently are or nothing will change. You just can’t INVEST so much of yourself into it women. When you first start out, the fact that you landed some dates with some good looking women will freak you the fuck out because you invest too much of yourself in it. Once you realize that putting in the effort will make landing dates with hot women a fairly often thing, you won’t invest so much into it. A lot of effort will get you dates, a lot of investment will make you seem needy and women will run. On the other hand, if you invest in yourself (those angrychicken books above), women will sense that, too, and will flock to you.

Have fun with it, dude. Hangin’ out with chicks is mad fun. Even more fun when your dick is inside them. Learn to have fun wherever you go and chicks will come.

All of that said, keep in mind, I’m no Casanova, but I definitely hold my own when it comes to women. And that definitely wasn’t always the case.

Beth is cute as fuuuuuuuhhhhhh

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Cprimero wrote:
she’s a butch lesbian with short hair and thick neck (srsly)[/quote]
She’s definitely not butch lol. She’s fuckin cute. And if you think she has “a thick neck” then I pity the pencil that must be holding up your head. We’ll never know though, because unlike holymac you’re just one more dude on this site with no evidence whatsoever that you’ve ever lifted a day in your life.[/quote]

I agree about Beth being cute. She’s an athletic pretty, very wholesome and outdoorsy looking.

I don’t see “butch” at all. Butch lesbians intimidate me, but I would totally hang out with Beth.[/quote]
Summation: She ain’t butch.[/quote]

I agree…not butch at all. Just genuinely good looking. I have a preference for short hair on the ladies probably because I am in my 40’s now.

[quote]Waittz wrote:
Stop worrying so much. You lack confidence. If you don’t believe in what you have to offer how do you expect someone else to.

Also the worst thing any girl can say is “no”. That’s it. Worse case scenario. So grab your balls tell the girl lets meet here at this time and do this. Never say let’s “do something” that is foo foo I lack confidence to the point where I can’t even decide on what to do with you.

This was my “pick up line” back in the day, it is fool proof.

“Hey, my name is Steven” and smile. See how easy that is? Then make small talk and before you are done with the conversation ask boldly “can I have you phone number? Id like to take you out one night”

When you feel comfortable call, never text unless you want to show how you are not confident to talk, and ask to take her out to dinner/drink/etc just always have a place and time ready.

Always tell the truth, be genuine and confident. If the girl says no to anything move on to one who says yes. There will always be one who will. Even fat guys are getting laid. [/quote]

GOLD

Learn the intricacies of nonverbal communication. Nonverbals are infinitely more significant in communicating than anything you could ever say, and study after study has shown that women are particularly adept at decoding nonverbal cues, while men are usually lacking, if not entirely deficient, in nonverbal communication.

Seriously, dude, trust me on this: a woman has the ability to perceive more about you than you can even imagine before you open your mouth. Also, understanding the significance of nonverbal communication is effective because, in addition to learning how to manage your own nonverbal behaviors, you learn how to decode female behaviors, which is also a vital part of the “dating” game.

The OPs only problem is not enough Pook.

Therefore I present to him The Book of Pook:

http://www.djbible.classicalgasemissions.com/book_of_pook.pdf

There are of course also the collected Proverbs of Solomon II:

Though the latter is somewhat of the cynical bastard variety.

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Hangin’ out with chicks is mad fun. Even more fun when your dick is inside them. Learn to have fun wherever you go and chicks will come.

Beth is cute as fuuuuuuuhhhhhh[/quote]

this pretty much sums it all up… trial and error my friend. AND Beth is a cutie fo sho

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
How’s your sense of fashion? If you’re working a wall st type job, you have every reason to look sharp as a mothafucka every day. You’re in sick shape, so it’ll be super easy for you to find good fitting clothes and look like a boss. Women like status, it’s proven. One way to get women to perceive you of higher status is to dress well.

If you don’t have a sense of style, get one. Read that fashion advice thread that was on here a while back. Waitzz KILLED it in there. A good wardrobe will impress women as well as giving you a bit of confidence when it comes to approaching them. You don’t have to dress like Ryan Gosling, but develop your own sense of style.

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Bitches love status.

Tank on empty, whipping my mamma’s Volvo
I spent that gas money on clothes with logos
The fur is Hermes, shit that you don’t floss
The Goyard so hard man, I’m Hugo’s boss

I would second Waitz’s and rrjc5548’s advice. Some of the other advice is shitty on here.

Some how advice threads tend to bring out the bottom feeders.

Thanks guys! You rock. I had to take my pics down due to my ex. But here…

I give you stereotype, sitting in lezmobile.

[quote]theBeth wrote:
Thanks guys! You rock. I had to take my pics down due to my ex. But here…

I give you stereotype, sitting in lezmobile.[/quote]

Case in point, women love attention and like talking about themselves.

A few compliments are thrown out and woman responds…Its not physics…lol

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:
Thanks guys! You rock. I had to take my pics down due to my ex. But here…

I give you stereotype, sitting in lezmobile.[/quote]

Case in point, women love attention and like talking about themselves.

A few compliments are thrown out and woman responds…Its not physics…lol[/quote]

Lol. Touche.

I dont see the killer neck…

I’m not a bottom feeder. I think my advice is practical for a 26 year shy and awkward guy like OP. He does not have to approach women cold there are less innocuous or uncomfortable ways.

[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
I’m not a bottom feeder. I think my advice is practical for a 26 year shy and awkward guy like OP. He does not have to approach women cold there are less innocuous or uncomfortable ways.[/quote]

like chloroform?

If you cant walk right up to a girl you find attractive, smile and say “Hello my name is ____, is there someplace quiet we can talk?” you will always be a nobody in many aspects of life. Grow a pair.