While you shouldn’t explicitly mention it, like EVER…it definitely doesnt hurt to look like you lift in whatever you wear to work, assuming you have some size on you and don’t need to take your shirt off to look buff (if you know what I mean). This is useful SINCE youre in a wall street job and likely look way better than your colleagues. I will also assume that you have a promising career since that IS a factor.
One other thing is not to let your female friends/colleagues/acquaintances feel like they’ve understood all there is to you. Be enigmatic without being serial killer creepy. Limit their access to your personal life. The less they know, the better.
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Fitness modeling thing isn’t happening…haha. I moved to Chicago working a wall street kind of job now.
I honestly have never mentioned lifting around women and I haven’t counted my macros once since moving to Chicago.
I do like all the advice in here so far though. [/quote]
It seems like a lot of the advice given boils down to Be Yourself and Be Confident. Well, JSK is 26 years old and has never been on a date. I’m pretty sure he’s not going to have confidence and if he pretends to have confidence he’ll come across as phony. Catch 22.
I think our boy needs to try to be genuine without being awkward if at all possible. Of course he’s got to be meeting girls or all the strategizing in the world will be for naught. Hey JS, how about taking up some activities that you’d be likely to meet some chicks? Volleyball league, climbing wall, martial arts, camp counselor, hang out in a TJMax. Heck, my 12 year old and I started going to a table tennis club of all places and there’s a couple chicks there I’d go for if I was under 28 and single.
Oooh, how about get a weekend job as a barista in one of those drive thru kiosks? You’d get to hang out with a couple of hotties all day in close quarters.
you needs to not doubt yourself in any way on a date.
-don’t let her know you are new to dating
-don’t talk about your muscle
-don’t ask if she likes you
-don’t give too many compliments
DO act like you want to get to know her as a person
-talk about her
-be nice
-be witty
-don’t say anything negative (this is a minefield)
-do smile at her, dont stare
-pay for the dinner without mentioning it
-Do have fun
-Do not forget your date is a mission to make her feel comfortable and get to know each other
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
OP here are the rookie ESSENTIALs
you needs to not doubt yourself in any way on a date.
-don’t let her know you are new to dating
-don’t talk about your muscle
-don’t ask if she likes you
-don’t give too many compliments
DO act like you want to get to know her as a person
-talk about her
-be nice
-be witty
-don’t say anything negative (this is a minefield)
-do smile at her, dont stare
-pay for the dinner without mentioning it
-Do have fun
-Do not forget your date is a mission to make her feel comfortable and get to know each other[/quote]
Good tips here, although i think we need to get the guy a date in the first place.
Disclaimer: I have only skimmed through the thread so dont know the details of OPs circumstances.
I don’t really have any advice since I don’t know you or your foibles but here’s my take. I won’t date a man I don’t know. I don’t date men I meet when I go out. If I give someone my number it’s usually because I’m drunk and I don’t mean it. And I don’t answer the calls or texts after. I don’t date dudes at the gym. I’m an utter failure at relationships when I do have them.
That being said, the most attractive quality in a man is absolute confidence. Fake it until you feel it. Carry yourself like you have it. Evaluate your internal values and stick to what’s important to you with unwavering fortitude. That’s the filter that will protect you from the cunts with BPD. Trust me, not dating is better than the alternative sometimes.
I have an awful lot of hobbies and have found that to be a good way to meet people. Also, church. But only if you mean it.
Approach (50) girls with the mentality that you are just there to approach and LEARN for the next approach…don’t approach with the goal of getting a date/number…be ready/prepare for failure, this should take some pressure off.
Once the pressure is off you can really be yourself and the rest will fall into place
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
Approach (50) girls with the mentality that you are just there to approach and LEARN for the next approach…don’t approach with the goal of getting a date/number…be ready/prepare for failure, this should take some pressure off.
Once the pressure is off you can really be yourself and the rest will fall into place[/quote]
Completely agree. Also women will run the other way if they sense your goal is relationshipville. It smacks of desperate or needy. There’s a lot to be said for an air of mystery and letting on like you are perfectly happy on your own.
Now tell him how to land that first date and you’re gold
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
OP here are the rookie ESSENTIALs
you needs to not doubt yourself in any way on a date.
-don’t let her know you are new to dating
-don’t talk about your muscle
-don’t ask if she likes you
-don’t give too many compliments
DO act like you want to get to know her as a person
-talk about her
-be nice
-be witty
-don’t say anything negative (this is a minefield)
-do smile at her, dont stare
-pay for the dinner without mentioning it
-Do have fun
-Do not forget your date is a mission to make her feel comfortable and get to know each other[/quote]
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
Approach (50) girls with the mentality that you are just there to approach and LEARN for the next approach…don’t approach with the goal of getting a date/number…be ready/prepare for failure, this should take some pressure off.
Once the pressure is off you can really be yourself and the rest will fall into place[/quote]
This works.
A big thing for you when you approach will be developing a sexual vibe.
A lot of guys when they talk to women simply telegraph nothing more than being a friend offering a polite conversation.
You have to not be afraid to assert your sexual desires upon a woman - through your eyes, body language, flirtatious conversation and touching.
Also the first 50 approaches will be an extremely mental grind for you. You’re going to feel anxiety not only before you approach, but after you will feel pretty mentally drained doing this constantly. Things will be amplified by the harsher rejections.
Just remember, it’s in your best interest to stick through it.
[quote]theBeth wrote:
I don’t really have any advice since I don’t know you or your foibles but here’s my take. I won’t date a man I don’t know. I don’t date men I meet when I go out. If I give someone my number it’s usually because I’m drunk and I don’t mean it. And I don’t answer the calls or texts after. I don’t date dudes at the gym. I’m an utter failure at relationships when I do have them.
That being said, the most attractive quality in a man is absolute confidence. Fake it until you feel it. Carry yourself like you have it. Evaluate your internal values and stick to what’s important to you with unwavering fortitude. That’s the filter that will protect you from the cunts with BPD. Trust me, not dating is better than the alternative sometimes.
I have an awful lot of hobbies and have found that to be a good way to meet people. Also, church. But only if you mean it.[/quote]
are you attractive? if you’re gross I doubt anyone honestly cares
[quote]Depression Boy wrote:
Good advice for his first date.
Now tell him how to land that first date and you’re gold
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
OP here are the rookie ESSENTIALs
you needs to not doubt yourself in any way on a date.
-don’t let her know you are new to dating
-don’t talk about your muscle
-don’t ask if she likes you
-don’t give too many compliments
DO act like you want to get to know her as a person
-talk about her
-be nice
-be witty
-don’t say anything negative (this is a minefield)
-do smile at her, dont stare
-pay for the dinner without mentioning it
-Do have fun
-Do not forget your date is a mission to make her feel comfortable and get to know each other[/quote]
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I dunno man… I gave up cause lots of women just want a free meal. I hate paying for dinner now. Other women have done that one in. I would suggest something low key and not dinner or expensive. Cause why would you spend 50+ on a stranger with no pay back on anything. Would you buy a strange guy dinner? Nope so why would you buy a strange woman dinner?
[quote]Depression Boy wrote:
Good advice for his first date.
Now tell him how to land that first date and you’re gold
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
OP here are the rookie ESSENTIALs
you needs to not doubt yourself in any way on a date.
-don’t let her know you are new to dating
-don’t talk about your muscle
-don’t ask if she likes you
-don’t give too many compliments
DO act like you want to get to know her as a person
-talk about her
-be nice
-be witty
-don’t say anything negative (this is a minefield)
-do smile at her, dont stare
-pay for the dinner without mentioning it
-Do have fun
-Do not forget your date is a mission to make her feel comfortable and get to know each other[/quote]
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I dunno man… I gave up cause lots of women just want a free meal. I hate paying for dinner now. Other women have done that one in. I would suggest something low key and not dinner or expensive. Cause why would you spend 50+ on a stranger with no pay back on anything. Would you buy a strange guy dinner? Nope so why would you buy a strange woman dinner?
Pay for dinners once you are seriously involved.
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AngryChicken used to preach to go somewhere low key for something short and sweet so if it doesn’t pan out then you can both leave pretty easily. If you like where it’s headed, try and move to another venue. If she is game for that you know you’ve at least got her interested
My gf and I went out to “get a drink after work”. Started at Fridays for a drink or 2 and then moved to another place for a quick bite and some pool table games.
[quote]Depression Boy wrote:
Good advice for his first date.
Now tell him how to land that first date and you’re gold
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
OP here are the rookie ESSENTIALs
you needs to not doubt yourself in any way on a date.
-don’t let her know you are new to dating
-don’t talk about your muscle
-don’t ask if she likes you
-don’t give too many compliments
DO act like you want to get to know her as a person
-talk about her
-be nice
-be witty
-don’t say anything negative (this is a minefield)
-do smile at her, dont stare
-pay for the dinner without mentioning it
-Do have fun
-Do not forget your date is a mission to make her feel comfortable and get to know each other[/quote]
[/quote]
I dunno man… I gave up cause lots of women just want a free meal. I hate paying for dinner now. Other women have done that one in. I would suggest something low key and not dinner or expensive. Cause why would you spend 50+ on a stranger with no pay back on anything. Would you buy a strange guy dinner? Nope so why would you buy a strange woman dinner?
Pay for dinners once you are seriously involved.
[/quote]
AngryChicken used to preach to go somewhere low key for something short and sweet so if it doesn’t pan out then you can both leave pretty easily. If you like where it’s headed, try and move to another venue. If she is game for that you know you’ve at least got her interested
My gf and I went out to “get a drink after work”. Started at Fridays for a drink or 2 and then moved to another place for a quick bite and some pool table games.[/quote]
See that is balanced and where you want to be. Good job
I like you… You’ve given me solid fitness advice before… Your a good looking guy… NO HOMO… I think you could probably get any chick you want … Dating isnt that hard just go have fun and dont be too cought up in “failure” Try meeting chix online and chating, then meet them for coffee… Always coffee or drinks not full on dates… Its cheaper this way and easeir to bail if it sucks…
Meeting girls at bars clubs or partys is great they are usually half drunk so their guard is down… If going on the prowel its ok to be a wingman… Buddy up with a friend whos a player… Since your a BB it will be great for him he will use you as bait and he will do all the leg work… Wear designer jeans and tight shirts, be nice friendly and do shots… You will envitatably wake up next to some decent ass… Really just have fun only hit on girls you really like… Be cocky yet funny they love a guy whos kinda a douche…
Also dude you are in Chitown great place for singles…I’ve partyed hard there many times… You look better then 90% of the other dudes out there… Stop being a puss and get some puss… Show them no mercy now go forth and multiply # in rubbers