It isn’t what you’ve got, it’s the confidence with which you project what you’ve got. Women dig confidence, friendly indifference, mystery, and a good man handling. Physical aggressiveness in the sack can sometimes translate to confidence/passion/animal attraction. It makes them want to come back for more. But before you get to the sack part you have to stimulate her brain. It’s a cat n mouse game.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Lesson # 1:
If a girl goes out of her way to initiate a conversation, or speak to you, mentally in your mind, tack on the words, “wanna fuck?” after any thing she says. For example:
“Hey, can you teach me some stuff. You seem like you know what you’re doing, WANNA FUCK?.”
“Oh btw, here’s my number, WANNA FUCK?”
“Wow, you sure have nice arms, WANNA FUCK?”
“You’re a great dancer, WANNA FUCK?”
She’s NOT “being nice”. She’s expressing interest.[/quote]
AC, I henceforth believe you to be a voodoo witch doctor.
In this entire thread, this one small tangible piece of advice stood out, because it was so fucking simple. It gave my night quite the alternate ending I’ve been after.
I took this young lady up on her offer and trained with her last night, and sure enough inserted “WANNA FUCK” after every time she complimented me or teased me. Completely changed my disposition and tone with her. Suddenly I was really invested in everything she was saying, asking very insightful follow up questions, and really getting her to open up about how she felt about all the things she was passionate about. I wasn’t needy, didn’t feel like I HAD to compliment her, or say the “right” thing, I just WAS. Everything flowed.
After that she wanted to keep talking so we walked home instead of taking the bus. Then found a nice sit down restaurant open 24 hours, and actually really connected. After eating she basically invites herself to my apartment: “Hey, you wanna get out of here and go listen to some music?”
We actually did listen to some music for awhile (probably actually the right move…made her want it even more by waiting to pounce), but the rest is history, and I think my mind is blown. I am now certain there are quite a few girls I interact with on a daily basis that could just as easily yield another “alternate ending.”
Thank you, sir. I think this is just the start of big things. I am coming to realize the potential here!
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
AC, I henceforth believe you to be a voodoo witch doctor.
In this entire thread, this one small tangible piece of advice stood out, because it was so fucking simple. It gave my night quite the alternate ending I’ve been after.
I took this young lady up on her offer and trained with her last night, and sure enough inserted “WANNA FUCK” after every time she complimented me or teased me. Completely changed my disposition and tone with her. Suddenly I was really invested in everything she was saying, asking very insightful follow up questions, and really getting her to open up about how she felt about all the things she was passionate about. I wasn’t needy, didn’t feel like I HAD to compliment her, or say the “right” thing, I just WAS. Everything flowed.
After that she wanted to keep talking so we walked home instead of taking the bus. Then found a nice sit down restaurant open 24 hours, and actually really connected. After eating she basically invites herself to my apartment: “Hey, you wanna get out of here and go listen to some music?”
We actually did listen to some music for awhile (probably actually the right move…made her want it even more by waiting to pounce), but the rest is history, and I think my mind is blown. I am now certain there are quite a few girls I interact with on a daily basis that could just as easily yield another “alternate ending.”
Thank you, sir. I think this is just the start of big things. I am coming to realize the potential here!
[/quote]
OP,
For some, the stick is a much more powerful motivator than the carrot.
In case you’re the former, here’s what your future will look like if you stop working on yourself and give up on this:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Lesson # 1:
If a girl goes out of her way to initiate a conversation, or speak to you, mentally in your mind, tack on the words, “wanna fuck?” after any thing she says. For example:
“Hey, can you teach me some stuff. You seem like you know what you’re doing, WANNA FUCK?.”
“Oh btw, here’s my number, WANNA FUCK?”
“Wow, you sure have nice arms, WANNA FUCK?”
“You’re a great dancer, WANNA FUCK?”
She’s NOT “being nice”. She’s expressing interest.[/quote]
AC,
What is your opinion if in this^ example you provide, you act on her interest, and she retracts saying “I was just being nice” ?
I have found that with women, words and actions do not always parallel each other, and you end up with a situation where you get mixed vibes.
Which expression of communication would you view as being the more accurate of the two ?
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Lesson # 1:
If a girl goes out of her way to initiate a conversation, or speak to you, mentally in your mind, tack on the words, “wanna fuck?” after any thing she says. For example:
“Hey, can you teach me some stuff. You seem like you know what you’re doing, WANNA FUCK?.”
“Oh btw, here’s my number, WANNA FUCK?”
“Wow, you sure have nice arms, WANNA FUCK?”
“You’re a great dancer, WANNA FUCK?”
She’s NOT “being nice”. She’s expressing interest.[/quote]
AC,
What is your opinion if in this^ example you provide, you act on her interest, and she retracts saying “I was just being nice” ?
I have found that with women, words and actions do not always parallel each other, and you end up with a situation where you get mixed vibes.
Which expression of communication would you view as being the more accurate of the two ?[/quote]
Ahhhh, women are nothing if not fickle creatures, are they not? They truly are FASCINATING!
If a woman expresses interest and later falls back on, “oh, I was just being nice” that means that somewhere between the initial spark and your acting on it you killed the attraction somehow. It could be as simple as waiting too long. But there will me a MYRIAD of indications that would let you know where you stand before you opened your mouth and inserted your proverbial foot.
Personally though, I assume ALL women I interact with want to fuck me. Call me conceited, but that’s just how my little brain works. I mean why WOULDN’T they? LOL But I see the matrix of social interaction pretty clearly and have the presence of mind to steer things one way or the other. That’s not to say that I’m batting a thousand - not by a long shot, but you’re not playing the game if you don’t get a drink thrown in your face every once in a while! (I actually LOVE it when that happens because it guarantees I’ll be getting laid by SOME girl in that room later who saw it)
Having said all that, and despite my little “insert wanna fuck” mental trick, I very rarely listen to what a woman SAYS. Most of the time it’s just drivel anyway cuz she’s nervous, so I watch her eyes for pupil dilatation, the flush of her skin, her body language, her reaction to my touch, the way she brushes her hair and looks down during the course of the interaction, etc… It really doesn’t matter WHAT the topic of conversation is, it’s HOW I communicate (or SUB communicate, if you will) with her that triggers a physical response. And once a woman has that physical response, it’s game over. I’ve already won. At that point I can take it anywhere I want to. And no amount of “intellectual resistance” or objections from her friends/cockblockers will change that. Just like no amount of “intellectual convincing” will ever make a woman FEEL like she wants to fuck you.
Every situation is specific. If you drill down on EACH interaction where you “thought” she was expressing interest, but were later shot down (and if you are brutally honest with yourself) you’ll probably be able to figure out where things went sideways. It could be something as innocuous as a comment, or a passing glance at another woman that made her feel threatened - it could be any one of a MILLION things that flipped the “off” switch in her mind and banished you forever from the “maybe” bucket to the “I’m not gonna fuck him EVER” bucket, but you did SOMETHING to allow the spark to die. And once it’s out, it’s out.
That’s not to say that one can “never” trigger another spark, but it will NEVER be as unique and “pure” as the initial one. You have ONE chance to make a first impression. And if the chemistry is right, you can create some AMAZING experiences and coax that little spark into 100 mega ton nuclear explosions of orgasmic pleasure. But for every mistake you make, you reduce the potential of the experience exponentially.
To borrow the term from Erica Jong, the “zipless fuck” is an elusive fantasy for most women. I strive to make it their reality. Sometimes I come close.
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Lesson # 1:
If a girl goes out of her way to initiate a conversation, or speak to you, mentally in your mind, tack on the words, “wanna fuck?” after any thing she says. For example:
“Hey, can you teach me some stuff. You seem like you know what you’re doing, WANNA FUCK?.”
“Oh btw, here’s my number, WANNA FUCK?”
“Wow, you sure have nice arms, WANNA FUCK?”
“You’re a great dancer, WANNA FUCK?”
She’s NOT “being nice”. She’s expressing interest.[/quote]
AC, I henceforth believe you to be a voodoo witch doctor.
In this entire thread, this one small tangible piece of advice stood out, because it was so fucking simple. It gave my night quite the alternate ending I’ve been after.
I took this young lady up on her offer and trained with her last night, and sure enough inserted “WANNA FUCK” after every time she complimented me or teased me. Completely changed my disposition and tone with her. Suddenly I was really invested in everything she was saying, asking very insightful follow up questions, and really getting her to open up about how she felt about all the things she was passionate about. I wasn’t needy, didn’t feel like I HAD to compliment her, or say the “right” thing, I just WAS. Everything flowed.
After that she wanted to keep talking so we walked home instead of taking the bus. Then found a nice sit down restaurant open 24 hours, and actually really connected. After eating she basically invites herself to my apartment: “Hey, you wanna get out of here and go listen to some music?”
We actually did listen to some music for awhile (probably actually the right move…made her want it even more by waiting to pounce), but the rest is history, and I think my mind is blown. I am now certain there are quite a few girls I interact with on a daily basis that could just as easily yield another “alternate ending.”
Thank you, sir. I think this is just the start of big things. I am coming to realize the potential here!
[/quote]
Happy to help 
Just so you know, you’ve just barely scratched the surface. DO NOT overly invest in this first success and judge yourself on the results - good or bad. There is a LOT of work left to be done on many levels.
But for now, you might find it useful to borrow my attitude of “I believe EVERY woman want’s to fuck me”. Not saying you should ACT on that assumption with every woman - there aren’t enough hours in the day for that, but CHOOSE several candidates and pursue them using a VARIETY of approaches. Observe the interaction dispassionately and borrow from the scientific method. Find what works FOR YOU.
Approaches/strategies with women are like workout routines: there are THOUSANDS of them and you will make SOME progress with ALL of them. They are like tools in a tool box. If you come across a “nail” that you want to NAIL, don’t reach in to the tool box for a screwdriver, get a hammer! Ya feelz me?
Fuck yeah, Jake!
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Fuck yeah, Jake![/quote]
Pun intended?[/quote]
No lol.
I got picked up by two girls earlier tonight. I was immediately hit with a double shit test.
“We were wondering how big your dick is while we were waiting. How big is it?”
For the the first time I was actually aware I was being shit tested during said shit test. And, for that, I am happy.
This also leads me to a question I have for you all; how do you feel about hooking up with girls in LTR’s?
I am almost always against it.
One of the girls is a sexy little thing, but she’s been in a relationship for close to half a decade. I really could not care less what happens to her relationship, but I would feel like much less of a man if I ended their relationship just because I had the power to.
[quote]Kakarat wrote:
I got picked up by two girls earlier tonight. I was immediately hit with a double shit test.
“We were wondering how big your dick is while we were waiting. How big is it?”
For the the first time I was actually aware I was being shit tested during said shit test. And, for that, I am happy.
This also leads me to a question I have for you all; how do you feel about hooking up with girls in LTR’s?
I am almost always against it.
One of the girls is a sexy little thing, but she’s been in a relationship for close to half a decade. I really could not care less what happens to her relationship, but I would feel like much less of a man if I ended their relationship just because I had the power to.
[/quote]
Well. How big is it?
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Kakarat wrote:
I got picked up by two girls earlier tonight. I was immediately hit with a double shit test.
“We were wondering how big your dick is while we were waiting. How big is it?”
For the the first time I was actually aware I was being shit tested during said shit test. And, for that, I am happy.
This also leads me to a question I have for you all; how do you feel about hooking up with girls in LTR’s?
I am almost always against it.
One of the girls is a sexy little thing, but she’s been in a relationship for close to half a decade. I really could not care less what happens to her relationship, but I would feel like much less of a man if I ended their relationship just because I had the power to.
[/quote]
Well. How big is it?[/quote]
I’d lie and by the time the panties are off its too late and I still get laid hahaha.
I do the same thing but ALOUD
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Lesson # 1:
If a girl goes out of her way to initiate a conversation, or speak to you, mentally in your mind, tack on the words, “wanna fuck?” after any thing she says. For example:
“Hey, can you teach me some stuff. You seem like you know what you’re doing, WANNA FUCK?.”
“Oh btw, here’s my number, WANNA FUCK?”
“Wow, you sure have nice arms, WANNA FUCK?”
“You’re a great dancer, WANNA FUCK?”
She’s NOT “being nice”. She’s expressing interest.[/quote]
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Kakarat wrote:
I got picked up by two girls earlier tonight. I was immediately hit with a double shit test.
“We were wondering how big your dick is while we were waiting. How big is it?”
For the the first time I was actually aware I was being shit tested during said shit test. And, for that, I am happy.
This also leads me to a question I have for you all; how do you feel about hooking up with girls in LTR’s?
I am almost always against it.
One of the girls is a sexy little thing, but she’s been in a relationship for close to half a decade. I really could not care less what happens to her relationship, but I would feel like much less of a man if I ended their relationship just because I had the power to.
[/quote]
Well. How big is it?[/quote]
x2 /\
Just get out a piece of paper and make an outline…
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Kakarat wrote:
I got picked up by two girls earlier tonight. I was immediately hit with a double shit test.
“We were wondering how big your dick is while we were waiting. How big is it?”
For the the first time I was actually aware I was being shit tested during said shit test. And, for that, I am happy.
This also leads me to a question I have for you all; how do you feel about hooking up with girls in LTR’s?
I am almost always against it.
One of the girls is a sexy little thing, but she’s been in a relationship for close to half a decade. I really could not care less what happens to her relationship, but I would feel like much less of a man if I ended their relationship just because I had the power to.
[/quote]
Well. How big is it?[/quote]
“As big as you want it to be.”
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Kakarat wrote:
I got picked up by two girls earlier tonight. I was immediately hit with a double shit test.
“We were wondering how big your dick is while we were waiting. How big is it?”
For the the first time I was actually aware I was being shit tested during said shit test. And, for that, I am happy.
This also leads me to a question I have for you all; how do you feel about hooking up with girls in LTR’s?
I am almost always against it.
One of the girls is a sexy little thing, but she’s been in a relationship for close to half a decade. I really could not care less what happens to her relationship, but I would feel like much less of a man if I ended their relationship just because I had the power to.
[/quote]
Well. How big is it?[/quote]
x2 /\
Just get out a piece of paper and make an outline…
[/quote]
“Just get out a piece of paper and make an outline, WANNA FUCK?”
Oh, Bethy
[quote]Kakarat wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Kakarat wrote:
I got picked up by two girls earlier tonight. I was immediately hit with a double shit test.
“We were wondering how big your dick is while we were waiting. How big is it?”
For the the first time I was actually aware I was being shit tested during said shit test. And, for that, I am happy.
This also leads me to a question I have for you all; how do you feel about hooking up with girls in LTR’s?
I am almost always against it.
One of the girls is a sexy little thing, but she’s been in a relationship for close to half a decade. I really could not care less what happens to her relationship, but I would feel like much less of a man if I ended their relationship just because I had the power to.
[/quote]
Well. How big is it?[/quote]
x2 /\
Just get out a piece of paper and make an outline…
[/quote]
“Just get out a piece of paper and make an outline, WANNA FUCK?”
Oh, Bethy [/quote]
I think that depends on the outline.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
[quote]Kakarat wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Kakarat wrote:
I got picked up by two girls earlier tonight. I was immediately hit with a double shit test.
“We were wondering how big your dick is while we were waiting. How big is it?”
For the the first time I was actually aware I was being shit tested during said shit test. And, for that, I am happy.
This also leads me to a question I have for you all; how do you feel about hooking up with girls in LTR’s?
I am almost always against it.
One of the girls is a sexy little thing, but she’s been in a relationship for close to half a decade. I really could not care less what happens to her relationship, but I would feel like much less of a man if I ended their relationship just because I had the power to.
[/quote]
Well. How big is it?[/quote]
x2 /\
Just get out a piece of paper and make an outline…
[/quote]
“Just get out a piece of paper and make an outline, WANNA FUCK?”
Oh, Bethy [/quote]
I think that depends on the outline.[/quote]