Dante on OCD in Bodybuilding

[quote]SSC wrote:
Tero_Physio wrote:
Very wise words.

I have been quilty of the described behaviour as well - looking for the next secret supplement or training method to finally get me growing. However, it started after I had been training consistently for a few years with little results. Whereas I still do study the art of muscle and strength building, it’s out of professional or scientific interest. I think I learned everything there really is to know about muscle building some years ago and have merely been applying the knowledge since.

All it truly takes is the “basic knowledge” and time.

I do want to point out though that people always tend to go to extremes - either too scientific and of little importance or “JUST LIFT AND EAT, don’t waste time asking questions” type of thing. I think the truth lies in the middle. What I call basic information about bodybuilding does definitely take some thought and time to learn to apply. If you’re a natural trainee, you will have to know quite well what sort of training and nutrition will make you grow, whereas steroid-enhanced athletes can grow while making mistakes in many areas of training and nutrition.

So what I’m trying to say is, the best recipe for success is to look for the right information fast and start applying it fast. Neither alone works well. For bodybuilding, I’d probably recommend reading Max-OT rather than Starting Strength, even though it is a great book.

More wise words, really - Especially about MAX-OT.

But I can’t agree more about your point concerning bodybuilding information. So many want to know everything, and so many are unwavering in their thoughts and ideas without any real knowledge on the subject. As far as I’m concerned, if someone really wanted to gather good starting information for physique changes, they ought to invest in a physiology book, or something like that. It obviously wouldn’t have to be of academic standards, but I think once you start to learn how the body actually WORKS you can then determine why you’re actually doing something, instead of “Someone told me to.”

My issue comes with nutrition. Maybe I’m being a hypocrite to my own previous point, but I think people break down food issues WAY too much. “What kind of percentages of waxy maize should I mix with my proteins 37 minutes after I digest my creatine and glutamine?” etc etc etc. All the insane shit you see over on the S&N forum. For God’s sakes, why are people so worried about the most minute details when it comes to diet? Just watch your body - it’s really not that difficult.[/quote]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t I seen you post about how you eat your protein before your carbs with some nonsensical reasoning to go with it?

I could be wrong.

[quote]Scott M wrote:
nschneid wrote:
I obsess and I admit it. I’m an engineer; its what we do.
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Dante was an engineer as well, worked out for him. [/quote]

Was he really? Do you know what field and for how long?

That’s really interesting.

SSC is a great guy - at least until his “apathy towards my bulk” facepalm thread, but yes. Once he realizes how confused he is - and becoems aware of his potential for gaining muscle (more vast than most others on this forum), the fur will fly.
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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t I seen you post about how you eat your protein before your carbs with some nonsensical reasoning to go with it?

I could be wrong.[/quote]

You are definitely trivializing OCD.

points to self guilty as charged

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Was he really? Do you know what field and for how long?

That’s really interesting.[/quote]

He got a degree in electrical engineering… not sure what he really did with it but whatever it was didn’t last very long.

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
Scott M wrote:
nschneid wrote:
I obsess and I admit it. I’m an engineer; its what we do.
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Dante was an engineer as well, worked out for him.

Was he really? Do you know what field and for how long?

That’s really interesting.[/quote]

Dare i ask why thats interesting lol ?

If you asked Dante that you would get a raised eyebrow and a “WTF”

But just so you can be amazed at his engineering …

He is on the wannabebig boards for a long time.

[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
SSC is a great guy - at least until his “apathy towards my bulk” facepalm thread, but yes. Once he realizes how confused he is - and becoems aware of his potential for gaining muscle (more vast than most others on this forum), the fur will fly.
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Haha, thanks. Don’t worry - Although I fret about my extra packaging sometimes, I’ve never stopped eating like a hoss.

Nope, not wrong. Nonsensical may be a bit inaccurate, though. You could say I follow advice blindly. It’s what DC guys do, and I like to utilize as many principles of it as I can, it just makes sense to me. As I said, it’s a principle I like to follow… not like I freak out if I decide to max out some delicious carb or something before I eat some protein.

Point is, is I suck at eating cleanly and want to bring all the others down with me. :slight_smile: