Protein, creatine and a vitamin. I used to keep a shaker in my locker with protein and bottled water. One serving mid afternoon one right before practice and then moms dinner.
[quote]Gumpshmee wrote:
Low level milk protein sensitivity (similar to gluten sensitivity) elevated cortisol, bowel irritation. At least I believe that’s the paleo viewpoint. I for one have tried GOMAD I always felt like I needed a benadryl and my shits were horrendous.
I basically buy into the premise that we haven’t had enough time to adapt to cow’s milk, grains, legumes, etc.
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Only some people are sensitive to it. Yet it still get recited like a mantra. Wheat gluten is fine for most people. Dairy is fine for most people. Paleo diet is still a fad that 90% of its users will forget about in 10 years. Milk has been good for you for years. Plus I just suggested adding it to his diet, not subsisting on it. Everything is gonna be bad for someone, but calling milk unhealthy is just extrapolating poor information.
[quote]tveddy wrote:
calling milk unhealthy is just extrapolating poor information.[/quote]
i dont think any one is saying milk is unhealthy, just that there are better options than a gallon/day
[quote]tveddy wrote:
[quote]Gumpshmee wrote:
Low level milk protein sensitivity (similar to gluten sensitivity) elevated cortisol, bowel irritation. At least I believe that’s the paleo viewpoint. I for one have tried GOMAD I always felt like I needed a benadryl and my shits were horrendous.
I basically buy into the premise that we haven’t had enough time to adapt to cow’s milk, grains, legumes, etc.
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Only some people are sensitive to it. Yet it still get recited like a mantra. Wheat gluten is fine for most people. Dairy is fine for most people. Paleo diet is still a fad that 90% of its users will forget about in 10 years. Milk has been good for you for years. Plus I just suggested adding it to his diet, not subsisting on it. Everything is gonna be bad for someone, but calling milk unhealthy is just extrapolating poor information.[/quote]
only some people notice they’re sensitive to it. There’s a difference. No one is good at breaking the beta 1,4 bonds between glucose in galactose found in milk. Unless you’re one of those weird eastern european groups that basically live off the stuff, then thats a different story
[quote]relentless2120 wrote:
[quote]tveddy wrote:
[quote]Gumpshmee wrote:
Low level milk protein sensitivity (similar to gluten sensitivity) elevated cortisol, bowel irritation. At least I believe that’s the paleo viewpoint. I for one have tried GOMAD I always felt like I needed a benadryl and my shits were horrendous.
I basically buy into the premise that we haven’t had enough time to adapt to cow’s milk, grains, legumes, etc.
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Only some people are sensitive to it. Yet it still get recited like a mantra. Wheat gluten is fine for most people. Dairy is fine for most people. Paleo diet is still a fad that 90% of its users will forget about in 10 years. Milk has been good for you for years. Plus I just suggested adding it to his diet, not subsisting on it. Everything is gonna be bad for someone, but calling milk unhealthy is just extrapolating poor information.[/quote]
only some people notice they’re sensitive to it. There’s a difference. No one is good at breaking the beta 1,4 bonds between glucose in galactose found in milk. Unless you’re one of those weird eastern european groups that basically live off the stuff, then thats a different story[/quote]
Which doesn’t count because we were talking about protein sensitivities, not getting a little gassy
As we age we all digest milk a little bit worse. This is due to gradual loss of digestive enzymes. Protein sensitivities are an allergic reaction that release histamine causing damage to the lining of the gut. So i dismiss gassy, but that is all. Also at 16 he should have no problem as long as he isn’t completely lactose intolerant. And yes, I am willing to be a little gassy for the extra protein and the added convenience of that comes with it. I also do believe a lot of conventional nutritional wisdom but I am willing to acknowledge that they dont know everything, but before I change something that works I need level 1 or 2 evidence to support that change, if you provide it to me I will change my opinion. for now I’m up to my eyeballs in reading material that is not nutritionally related and so I wont be seeking any out for a while.
PS why do people think doctors are dumb
[quote]tveddy wrote:
PS why do people think doctors are dumb[/quote]
They certainly aren’t dumb, doctors are very intelligent, knowledgeable professionals… with (in most cases) almost no training/experience in the area of diet or exercise. And they are the #1 place most people get their advice on diet and exercise. This is the issue.
I can handle being behind 10 yrs on nutrition as long as I’m making progress. And I’ve always taken the view that nutrition is nothing more than biochemistry (at the basics). I also believe that most doctors have the basic knowledge of nutrition but choose not to advise patients of it and rather send them to a nutritionist.
I say that because I dont work in nutrition. I’m a resident and for what I actually do I usually try to look at all the research. For things I am not an “expert” in, its easier to be conservative. If you go back to the OP question though I still believe that increasing calories and specifically protein will give the best results. I also believe that milk and whey are the easiest way to do this. I’m not trying to be groundbreaking, just trying to stuff a kid full of food as easily and cheap as possible.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]tveddy wrote:
If you go back to the OP question though I still believe that increasing calories and specifically protein will give the best results. I also believe that milk and whey are the easiest way to do this. I’m not trying to be groundbreaking, just trying to stuff a kid full of food as easily and cheap as possible. [/quote]
We agree 100% here, except for the use of milk. Everything else you said is spot on IMO.
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Well maybe I’ll read up on milk sensitivities if I find time
Milk is the devil.
At the beginning of the summer I went with the whole GOMAD approach, know what it got me?
I was so bloated all the time I couldn’t eat any real food without literally throwing it all back up. My face, chest, back, and shoulders all broke out horribly, oh and also, I gained four pounds.
What a waste of time.
Since dropping dairy completely, I feel great, I no longer have acne, oh, and, ummm, I’ve gained 30 pounds in three months.
To the OP, Meat is the cure to your sons problems.
Not whey, meat.
Trust me.
Yeah I found that GOMAD really gave me a subpar experience as well, and I handle milk very well, aside from the concrete pellets drinking 4 litres/day (canadian gallon) inevitably produces.
[quote]tveddy wrote:
[quote]Gumpshmee wrote:
Low level milk protein sensitivity (similar to gluten sensitivity) elevated cortisol, bowel irritation. At least I believe that’s the paleo viewpoint. I for one have tried GOMAD I always felt like I needed a benadryl and my shits were horrendous.
I basically buy into the premise that we haven’t had enough time to adapt to cow’s milk, grains, legumes, etc.
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Only some people are sensitive to it. Yet it still get recited like a mantra. Wheat gluten is fine for most people. Dairy is fine for most people. Paleo diet is still a fad that 90% of its users will forget about in 10 years. Milk has been good for you for years. Plus I just suggested adding it to his diet, not subsisting on it. Everything is gonna be bad for someone, but calling milk unhealthy is just extrapolating poor information.[/quote]
Bullshit! Only people with European/Northern European lineage can tolerate milk consumption. The majority of the world is lactose intolerant. Even people who aren’t lactose intolerant will have varying levels of available lactase. Therefore, the VAST MAJORITY of the world and Americans should stay away from consuming dairy altogether. Even if you are one of the lucky few that can tolerate it at a high level of consumption, There are far better ways to get calories and protein then milk, especially skim milk which is missing the fats.
Also, “everything is gonna be bad for someone”, is a stupid fucking statement. Wild uncontaminated animal meats are healthy for everyone.
[quote]TooHuman wrote:
Bullshit! Only people with European/Northern European lineage can tolerate milk consumption. The majority of the world is lactose intolerant. Even people who aren’t lactose intolerant will have varying levels of available lactase. Therefore, the VAST MAJORITY of the world and Americans should stay away from consuming dairy altogether. Even if you are one of the lucky few that can tolerate it at a high level of consumption, There are far better ways to get calories and protein then milk, especially skim milk which is missing the fats.
Also, “everything is gonna be bad for someone”, is a stupid fucking statement. Wild uncontaminated animal meats are healthy for everyone.[/quote]
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According to the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases, between 30 and 50 million Americans have the potential for lactose-intolerance symptoms. However, lactose-intolerance prevalence rates in practical life settings may be lower than originally suggested. The goal of this study was to determine the prevalence of self-reported lactose intolerance among a national sample of European American (EA), African American (AA), and Hispanic American (HA) adults. A nationally representative sample of randomly generated telephone numbers was purchased from a commercial sample provider. A nationally representative sample of randomly selected telephone numbers were called from the Survey Research Unit’s Computer-Assisted Telephone Interviewing facility at the University of Alabama at Birmingham. Interviews were completed by a total of 1,084 respondents between the ages of 19 and 70 years with 486 EAs, 355 AAs, and 243 HAs. The response rate was 24.2%, and the cooperation rate was 34.2%. The age-adjusted lactose-intolerance prevalence estimates were 7.72%, 19.50%, and 10.05% for EAs, AAs, and HAs, respectively. For all respondents in the sample, the crude and age-adjusted self-reported lactose-intolerance prevalence rates were 13.38% and 12.04%, respectively. These results indicate that the prevalence of perceived lactose intolerance is significantly lower than what has been previously estimated. Health professionals need to be aware of the misrepresentation of currently estimated lactose-intolerance rates and should continue to encourage individuals with lactose intolerance to consume dairy foods first to help meet key nutrient recommendations with proper guidance and education[/quote]
this is just the abstract of the first article that I found in a 30s search. I haven’t critically evaluated or completely read it, but it would seem that you need to retake a math class if you think that is a majority. I also never said that “everything is going to be bad for someone” in fact I usually take the other approach and say that it is amazing at what the human body can tolerate.