Gallon of Milk a Day

Nutrition
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So there’s been a lot of hate on milk in the spills lately. I know there are some big draw backs but unfortunately I can’t afford to do a proper supplementation plan right now. I’m just curious if there is anyone who has done this for a decent amount of time (2-3 months at least) and been able to stay at least “somewhat” lean? I know I’m going to gain some fat but I’ll deal with that when finances are better. I’d just like to avoid getting a “pregnant” belly.

I’m doing Wendler’s Boring but Big 3 month challenge, with some sprints for cardio and morning walks. I plan to do the gallon a day for the entire challenge unless I notice sever fat gain.

On top of that I’m eating 3 meals a day. 6 eggs for breakfast, a chicken salad with pecans (for calories) and usually a beef dish with rice/rice cakes for dinner.

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why not try some quinoa? Protein and carbs w/o the downsides of conventional dairy. It’s relatively cheap too.

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I have quinoa and sometimes use it instead of rice. The milk is more for the 2200+ calories is provides then the carbs/protein. I won’t consistently eat 4-5 meals a day. I prefer 3 meals plus peri-workout, unfortunately I cannot afford the peri right now. I want to get on I3G, but I need to get school going and find out how much cash I’ll have; maybe train some people on the side to make up the difference.

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2200 calories?

coconut oil 120 cals per TBSP, heavy whipping cream (pasture raised is not expensive and 50 calories per TBSP), 2nd serving beef instead of chicken, shots of olive oil and walnuts oil :wink: 120 calories per TBSP

just tossing out some alternative ideas for ya

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Would anyone recommend a basic weight gainer to replace the milk?

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Milk also contains calcium, Vitamin D and IGF-1. I’m pretty sure those help build muscle too.

Quinoa is good but you gotta carry it around and it will fill you up, so you’ll eat less other stuff.

Nothing really replaces milk… except chocolate milk maybe. :slight_smile:

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I’ve though about the heavy cream. I used to do 2 servings of beef. May go back to it. Thanks for the recommendations jehovasfitness.

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Samir, yes the convenience and ease is also a huge bonus. Peri would be better but as far as cost and convenience not much beats it. Also I do agree with you about adding in actual food, it may actually lower my total intake which has always been a problem, one of the main reasons I decided to try the gallon a day.

it’s not a permanent thing, just the next few months. I just don’t want to end up looking pregnant!

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look into raw milk. in california it’s pretty easy to find. in colorado you have to buy a share of a cow (yeah kinda weird, but worth it) anywhere else, i wouldn’t know

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Raw milk here is a pain to find, I have looked into it. You also have to buy a cow share here as it’s illigal to actually sell raw milk; a lot of cow shares have actually been shut down I believe. The other problem is cost; the one place I did find worked out to about $5 Litre, plus travel time.

Hard to compete with $5-$5.50 for 3.7 Litres of whole milk. At that point I would just suck it up and go on the Anaconda Protocol or I3G. I believe in many of the benefits but I’m not sure how reliable the suppliers around here are.

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Wouldn’t inexpensive eggs, ground meats and things like olive, coconut and walnut oil be a good alternative if price is the issue?

Hell, I don’t want to be around me when I drink any significant amount of milk :slight_smile:

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[quote]DGarcia wrote:
Hard to compete with $5-$5.50 for 3.7 Litres of whole milk. At that point I would just suck it up and go on the Anaconda Protocol or I3G. I believe in many of the benefits but I’m not sure how reliable the suppliers around here are.[/quote]
So you have a problem with the price of raw milk but will put up the money for I3G?

What are your stats?

Do you take any foundational supplements or were you just jumping to the elite stuff?

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@Severiano - Again the issue becomes whole food being filling. I can’t (as easily) take in the required calories on whole food without peri. With the milk I don’t have to plan on 5 meals a day. I’m not saying it the best option; not by a long shot but it is currently the most convenient.

@JLone - Too be honest, I don’t believe raw milk is worth the cost. However, if I COULD afford it at this time, I would rather use proper workout nutrition.

Stats - 5’8.5" 165lbs (approx) I lost about 15 lbs last year, and as of November was about 150lbs. I haven’t had measurement in over 8 months.

Supplement - While I believe I3G can be considered elite but I want it for the issue of fixing my fat cells. I have carb intolerances due to an unhealthy diet/activity level through all my teen years. My diet only got mostly clean about 2 years ago.

My plan was to get the cash to due the original Anaconda but I’ve worked out the cost of maintaining I3G (4 pills on workout days only) and it’s about the same.

As for what I’m on now nothing, I bought a container of 1MR to give me energy during my workouts. It’s all I could swing at the moment.

Don’t misunderstand me; I’m well aware my current supplements and diet are not where they should be. Just trying to make the best of it until things turn around.

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At one point I used to drink over a gallon of milk a day. It worked for me, and I did not have any negative reactions to it.

Try it and watch your results. If you start to look like a pregnant chick do something different.

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[quote]aeyogi wrote:
At one point I used to drink over a gallon of milk a day. It worked for me, and I did not have any negative reactions to it.

Try it and watch your results. If you start to look like a pregnant chick do something different.

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I used to do the same thing. I guess it is a “new” thang for it to be the worst choice…despite helping to build tons of huge muscular people.

I guess I didn’t make things anywhere near complicated enough.

Also, will people quit acting like Raw milk is going to be of some great benefit to a bodybuilder as far as muscle gains. That is ridiculous. Please stop. If YOU want to drink raw milk, great, but telling people that it somehow means better progress is taking it too far.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]aeyogi wrote:
At one point I used to drink over a gallon of milk a day. It worked for me, and I did not have any negative reactions to it.

Try it and watch your results. If you start to look like a pregnant chick do something different.

[/quote]

I used to do the same thing. I guess it is a “new” thang for it to be the worst choice…despite helping to build tons of huge muscular people.

I guess I didn’t make things anywhere near complicated enough.

Also, will people quit acting like Raw milk is going to be of some great benefit to a bodybuilder as far as muscle gains. That is ridiculous. Please stop. If YOU want to drink raw milk, great, but telling people that it somehow means better progress is taking it too far.[/quote]

I get what you’re saying, but the OP mentioned that milk is getting bashed lately, and some of the bashing is because of the processing of milk. So, mentioning raw milk can at least let people know there are alternatives that would be better.

Also, no problem in at least recommending alternatives to milk that may not pose health issues down the line, if the same progress can be accomplished.

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]aeyogi wrote:
At one point I used to drink over a gallon of milk a day. It worked for me, and I did not have any negative reactions to it.

Try it and watch your results. If you start to look like a pregnant chick do something different.

[/quote]

I used to do the same thing. I guess it is a “new” thang for it to be the worst choice…despite helping to build tons of huge muscular people.

I guess I didn’t make things anywhere near complicated enough.

Also, will people quit acting like Raw milk is going to be of some great benefit to a bodybuilder as far as muscle gains. That is ridiculous. Please stop. If YOU want to drink raw milk, great, but telling people that it somehow means better progress is taking it too far.[/quote]

I get what you’re saying, but the OP mentioned that milk is getting bashed lately, and some of the bashing is because of the processing of milk. So, mentioning raw milk can at least let people know there are alternatives that would be better.

Also, no problem in at least recommending alternatives to milk that may not pose health issues down the line, if the same progress can be accomplished.
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While I can understand someone wanting to tell others about raw milk being available, the act I am speaking of is people acting like it is BETTER or will somehow produce better results in a bodybuilder. This is nonsense. There are too many variables and we just had a thread looking at studies and they all sucked. Raw milk is a choice, but no, it is NOT proven to be “better” than regular milk. Less processing does not always mean “better”…and store bought milk isn’t holding back anyone’s progress.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, will people quit acting like Raw milk is going to be of some great benefit to a bodybuilder as far as muscle gains. That is ridiculous. Please stop. If YOU want to drink raw milk, great, but telling people that it somehow means better progress is taking it too far.[/quote]
Not to speak for CUBuff but no one said Raw milk offered more muscle gains.

I think raw milk is routinely brought up in GOMAD threads because it offers the calories of whole milk without being commercial waste. Since the point of contention for most GOMAD hatters is the digestive issues and quality associated with commercial milk you can see the natural progression.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]aeyogi wrote:
At one point I used to drink over a gallon of milk a day. It worked for me, and I did not have any negative reactions to it.

Try it and watch your results. If you start to look like a pregnant chick do something different.

[/quote]

I used to do the same thing. I guess it is a “new” thang for it to be the worst choice…despite helping to build tons of huge muscular people.

I guess I didn’t make things anywhere near complicated enough.

Also, will people quit acting like Raw milk is going to be of some great benefit to a bodybuilder as far as muscle gains. That is ridiculous. Please stop. If YOU want to drink raw milk, great, but telling people that it somehow means better progress is taking it too far.[/quote]

I get what you’re saying, but the OP mentioned that milk is getting bashed lately, and some of the bashing is because of the processing of milk. So, mentioning raw milk can at least let people know there are alternatives that would be better.

Also, no problem in at least recommending alternatives to milk that may not pose health issues down the line, if the same progress can be accomplished.
[/quote]

While I can understand someone wanting to tell others about raw milk being available, the act I am speaking of is people acting like it is BETTER or will somehow produce better results in a bodybuilder. This is nonsense. There are too many variables and we just had a thread looking at studies and they all sucked. Raw milk is a choice, but no, it is NOT proven to be “better” than regular milk. Less processing does not always mean “better”…and store bought milk isn’t holding back anyone’s progress.[/quote]

do we really need “proof” raw milk is superior to the processed milks? Come on man, use common sense. I for one have never tried raw milk, nor do I think it will make a magical difference, but from a health standpoint it’s just logic IMO. Good point about the muscle gains though

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[quote]JLone wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, will people quit acting like Raw milk is going to be of some great benefit to a bodybuilder as far as muscle gains. That is ridiculous. Please stop. If YOU want to drink raw milk, great, but telling people that it somehow means better progress is taking it too far.[/quote]
Not to speak for CUBuff but no one said Raw milk offered more muscle gains.

I think raw milk is routinely brought up in GOMAD threads because it offers the calories of whole milk without being commercial waste. Since the point of contention for most GOMAD hatters is the digestive issues and quality associated with commercial milk you can see the natural progression. [/quote]

People are lactose intolerant. So am I. My best option is a protein with no whey in it at all. Raw milk isn’t magic. Also, what is wrong with the quality of store bought milk? I often by the lactose free stuff anyway and it lasts for 2 months.

This comes across like those people eating lettuce in hopes of eeking out 3 extra years on the planet.

If you guys are doing this for the purpose of “avoiding excess processing”, fine, at least that reason has some sense about it. But no, the “quality” issue is bit much.