I am not recommending DAA at all, it might be really great stuff, especially if it boosts T in normal guys. [Does the effect fade?]
As for the mental effects, I was simply pointing out that there is a whole world of things to also consider and that deprenyl can make such things more effective in terms of peak effects and duration while taking less of the other agent. Such synergies should not be ignored.
This post is a mix of increased T discussion and mental effects. The issue of mental effects needs to be expanded.
For those boosting GH release with amino acids, deprenyl should greatly increase that effect. And if used with CJC-1295, the effects should be better again in terms of improving amino acid digestive phase GH release.
I have never heard of DAA before and I am simply not familiar with it. For guys on TRT, it will not be able to increase T via a shutdown HPTA. So in that situation, the only effects to be considered are probably cognitive effects.
Now can DAA boost T in older guys with age related decline of LH release? How does DAA function when there is HPTA repression from estrogen dominance? Does it have an effect like a SERM?
[quote]cutthoat25 wrote:
ok so i recvd my DAA today, and I was wondering if taking it at the same time of day as my other supplements(multi-vitamin, Spike) would be ok? I usually down everything in the morning, but since the DAA is suppossed to be takin in the morning on empty stomach Im not sure if its kosher or not. Anyone have any thoughts, or share how you handle mixing pills? [/quote]
Did you order the regular DAA or MG’s test booster?
If you orderered regular DAA, its actually recommended to take it with a multi as its supposed to help absorbtion
If you ordered the latter, it probably would be the same lol. MG said he wouldve wanted to put vit D and E in the product also to help absorbtion
Are you gonna take 3g all at once or split the dose?
[quote]cutthoat25 wrote:
ok so i recvd my DAA today, and I was wondering if taking it at the same time of day as my other supplements(multi-vitamin, Spike) would be ok? I usually down everything in the morning, but since the DAA is suppossed to be takin in the morning on empty stomach Im not sure if its kosher or not. Anyone have any thoughts, or share how you handle mixing pills? [/quote]
Did you order the regular DAA or MG’s test booster?
If you orderered regular DAA, its actually recommended to take it with a multi as its supposed to help absorbtion
If you ordered the latter, it probably would be the same lol. MG said he wouldve wanted to put vit D and E in the product also to help absorbtion
Are you gonna take 3g all at once or split the dose?[/quote]
I ordered the MG test booster, and I plan on splitting the doses as recommended…also where did you find MG’s comments on the Supplement?
[quote]KSman wrote:
I am not recommending DAA at all, it might be really great stuff, especially if it boosts T in normal guys. [Does the effect fade?]
As for the mental effects, I was simply pointing out that there is a whole world of things to also consider and that deprenyl can make such things more effective in terms of peak effects and duration while taking less of the other agent. Such synergies should not be ignored.
This post is a mix of increased T discussion and mental effects. The issue of mental effects needs to be expanded.
For those boosting GH release with amino acids, deprenyl should greatly increase that effect. And if used with CJC-1295, the effects should be better again in terms of improving amino acid digestive phase GH release.
I have never heard of DAA before and I am simply not familiar with it. For guys on TRT, it will not be able to increase T via a shutdown HPTA. So in that situation, the only effects to be considered are probably cognitive effects.
Now can DAA boost T in older guys with age related decline of LH release? How does DAA function when there is HPTA repression from estrogen dominance? Does it have an effect like a SERM?[/quote]
It seems like not many are familiar with it past the one study that was done over 12 days of use.
I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on these topics further… and I also have a question.
I took celexa for a period in HS (memory loss from that time - poor memory altogether w/ things like events though) when I was diagnosed w/ depression. I used it for a couple months and hated it so I just stopped. Could that have had any lasting effects? Everyone told me it was bad to stop taking it like that.
Mental health has always been a struggle for me, although I’m doing a lot better in the past year! I’ve always wondered if I had low T though b/c of the depression/stress/lack of energy so this DAA thread and other t-boosters have intrigued me. I’m always in a better mood when I’m lifting consistently. I’m 23 though so it shouldnt be an issue but you never know.
(Have not yet had blood tests. Doc’s dont like that idea haha)
[quote]Mouldsie wrote:
It seems like not many are familiar with it past the one study that was done over 12 days of use.
I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on these topics further… and I also have a question.
I took celexa for a period in HS (memory loss from that time - poor memory altogether w/ things like events though) when I was diagnosed w/ depression. I used it for a couple months and hated it so I just stopped. Could that have had any lasting effects? Everyone told me it was bad to stop taking it like that.
Mental health has always been a struggle for me, although I’m doing a lot better in the past year! I’ve always wondered if I had low T though b/c of the depression/stress/lack of energy so this DAA thread and other t-boosters have intrigued me. I’m always in a better mood when I’m lifting consistently. I’m 23 though so it shouldnt be an issue but you never know.
(Have not yet had blood tests. Doc’s dont like that idea haha)[/quote]
I’m no doc, but it seems like you have 2 options (or three really). The first is to do nothing. Second is to go try and get tests done which you don’t want to do, but I’m not sure why, because if you have insurance it should be covered if your concern is legitimate. Third is to give the stuff a try and see how it goes. Btw, I’m not trying to be a smartass by spelling out the options for you like I did, I just want you to see the options and go with what makes sense, aka don’t go with ‘option one’. G’luck.
Haha I appreciate the input.
I wanted to get tested, my doctor wouldn’t give me a referral or do the blood work. I suppose I could demand it next time.
Option 3 is 50/50, I’d like to see some longer term studies come out.
[quote]Mouldsie wrote:
It seems like not many are familiar with it past the one study that was done over 12 days of use.
I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on these topics further… and I also have a question.
I took celexa for a period in HS (memory loss from that time - poor memory altogether w/ things like events though) when I was diagnosed w/ depression. I used it for a couple months and hated it so I just stopped. Could that have had any lasting effects? Everyone told me it was bad to stop taking it like that.
Mental health has always been a struggle for me, although I’m doing a lot better in the past year! I’ve always wondered if I had low T though b/c of the depression/stress/lack of energy so this DAA thread and other t-boosters have intrigued me. I’m always in a better mood when I’m lifting consistently. I’m 23 though so it shouldnt be an issue but you never know.
(Have not yet had blood tests. Doc’s dont like that idea haha)[/quote]
I’m no doc, but it seems like you have 2 options (or three really). The first is to do nothing. Second is to go try and get tests done which you don’t want to do, but I’m not sure why, because if you have insurance it should be covered if your concern is legitimate. Third is to give the stuff a try and see how it goes. Btw, I’m not trying to be a smartass by spelling out the options for you like I did, I just want you to see the options and go with what makes sense, aka don’t go with ‘option one’. G’luck.[/quote]
Ok it looks like you’ve been taking the magic dust for a little over a month now. Care to give a report on the experience?
I still haven’t scheduled bloodwork (Laziness and busy-ness)
just got mine today… i take 50mg zinc and HOT-ROX (usually) every morning. anyone know if that will have any negatives on DAA? couldnt find anything myself.
[quote]MAF14 wrote:
just got mine today… i take 50mg zinc and HOT-ROX (usually) every morning. anyone know if that will have any negatives on DAA? couldnt find anything myself.[/quote]
Zinc will actually help absorbtion, cant comment on HOT-ROX tough
[quote]MAF14 wrote:
just got mine today… i take 50mg zinc and HOT-ROX (usually) every morning. anyone know if that will have any negatives on DAA? couldnt find anything myself.[/quote]
Zinc will actually help absorbtion, cant comment on HOT-ROX tough[/quote]
ah, thanks. one more question (anyone)…
what(IF) methyl donors are you guys using/how much?
Ok it looks like you’ve been taking the magic dust for a little over a month now. Care to give a report on the experience?
I still haven’t scheduled bloodwork (Laziness and busy-ness)[/quote]
I didn’t get bloodwork either, and I haven’t been consistent with it unfortunately, so I can’t comment on the month long effect. I can only comment on the immediate effects (I took it for a 4-5 days on and off and could feel it), which I previously gave my positive report on. I didn’t take a methyl donor much of the time either.
Wow this thing really died… OK so I farted around and didn’t get my bloodwork done, but I did decide to get the NMDA. After reading up on possible negative side affedcts I weighed the risks and decided to lab rat myself for science. Actually this first round is just to make sure I don’t get a bad reaction to it.
I will then stay away from it for a month and let my system go back to ‘normal’, have my blood tested, try a cycle, and test again. No one seemed to want to pull the trigger on this form of DAA, so I’ll be the brave/stupid one.
So far I have taken it for 2 days. If there are any effects so far they aren’t very noticable. I’m frisky as always so no real change either way there.
[quote]GluteusGigantis wrote:
Any updates from people using DAA ?
Thanks in advance :)[/quote]
Well I went through a full bottle of NMDA.
Then I ordered regular DAA.
NMDA definately made me feel something, but I had to take around 6 capsules a day to really feel a beneficial change.
The DAA is still being dosed. I’ve started taking 5 Grams in the morning, and 5 at night.
The effect is good. I certainly ‘feel’ better. I’m wondering if stacking this with an herbal test booster would be a good stack.
I can say this. It’s not earth shattering. There’s no mindblowingly amazing effect. Because I was skeptical to begin with I’m not worried about placebo results. I don’t think the NMDA is worth the expense, because I’m experiencing near the same on the bulk powder for a lot less.
The cerebral effects have been noticable. I feel it easier to focus on complex tasks etc.
Libido is a little spiked but not crazy strong. I still want to see what a Biotest standardized version would look like. maybe an Alpha Male version bolstered with DAA for maximum effectiveness…
or a DAA product spiked with Epistane…not that I’ve seen a new product coming out somewhere or anything that I can talk about here…just getting curious.
[quote]GluteusGigantis wrote:
or a DAA product spiked with Epistane…not that I’ve seen a new product coming out somewhere or anything that I can talk about here…just getting curious.[/quote]
havent searched the site yet, but do you have any recent info on Epistane used by itself?
i google searched but the only threads/articles that came up were about epistane used pre/during or after cycles… oh and everything was from '08
[quote]GluteusGigantis wrote:
or a DAA product spiked with Epistane…not that I’ve seen a new product coming out somewhere or anything that I can talk about here…just getting curious.[/quote]
havent searched the site yet, but do you have any recent info on Epistane used by itself?
i google searched but the only threads/articles that came up were about epistane used pre/during or after cycles… oh and everything was from '08[/quote]
Epistane is an anabolic steroid. Not sure why it would be included while using T-boosting chemicals.
[quote]GluteusGigantis wrote:
or a DAA product spiked with Epistane…not that I’ve seen a new product coming out somewhere or anything that I can talk about here…just getting curious.[/quote]
havent searched the site yet, but do you have any recent info on Epistane used by itself?
i google searched but the only threads/articles that came up were about epistane used pre/during or after cycles… oh and everything was from '08[/quote]
Epistane is an anabolic steroid. Not sure why it would be included while using T-boosting chemicals. [/quote]
yeah thats what i was thinking. its a 17aa, right? is it legal though? i see supp companies advertising products, but it could just be some bullshit knock-off…
