Thanks for the info, Waylander.
[quote]WRT wrote:
Thanks for the info, Waylander.[/quote]
x2
So far DAA makes me kinda horny… serious.
Ya dude, the libido boost is no joke.
I gotta’ get better at hiding all this wood… lol
[quote]skohcl wrote:
I gotta’ get better at hiding all this wood… lol[/quote]
I like to hide mine in a vagina 
haha
Anyone tried to split the dose half in the morning half before bedtime?
[quote]zraw wrote:
Anyone tried to split the dose half in the morning half before bedtime?[/quote]
it’s recommended to take all 3g at once, but I’m sure someone has tried otherwise.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
Anyone tried to split the dose half in the morning half before bedtime?[/quote]
it’s recommended to take all 3g at once, but I’m sure someone has tried otherwise.[/quote]
Im pretty sure it is “recommended” to take all 3g at once in the morning only because thats what had been done in the research…
Ive seen “im” recommend splitting the dose in half
here was the reasonning : “To me it should be taken in the morning to shoot test levels up-afternoon will have the test levels along with GH T3 and insulin flowing from the training and pre work out and powo shake so no need to dose it there-as I see it right now. I like to see it taken before bed as to create a spike in the levels for growth during sleep as well.”
i recently seen another supp company came out with a DAA product looks pretty good and they split the doses in morning and afternoon…they also added other natural test boosting compounds that supposedly help deliver and inhance DAA…price not bad either
[quote]cutthoat25 wrote:
i recently seen another supp company came out with a DAA product looks pretty good and they split the doses in morning and afternoon…they also added other natural test boosting compounds that supposedly help deliver and inhance DAA…price not bad either[/quote]
thats what I was referring to
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
DAA studies have been done in animal models and NMDA is sort of avoided because of the neurotoxicity buzz.
[/quote]
Lol neurotoxicity is rapidly being associated with major neurobiological malfunctions. Probably shouldn’t be taken lightly. This is coming from someone who has helped study it first hand.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
A list of methyl donors:
- TMG (betaine)
- DMG
- Folate… See More
- Methylcobalamin
- Choline
Take 1-3g of TMG a day along with 3g a day of the DAA. DAA also had wider implications for AAS users and PCT which is where a lot of the excitement is coming from.
I can’t take credit for any of this info here though, I was just tipped off about it today.
WRT: No you won’t need an AI[/quote]
Thank you for posting both of these comments. I already take Choline supplementally, so I’ve got my Methyl donor. I’ve actually had time to scout some of the Neurotoxicity commentary going around, and am not convinced I need to be experimenting with NMDA until someone can put that rumor to bed. This gives me a reasonable alternative.
I’m trying to find a reputable primary physician on my covered under my HC plan, to help interpret the blood work, whatever it reveals. I haven’t had one for years. I never get sick, always feel healthy, and don’t like unnecessarily burdening the system. Yadda yadda. Anyway time to find someone who will likely tell me my test levels are ‘completely normal for my age’ and suggest that I stop worrying about it and take up watercolor painting or something.
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]cutthoat25 wrote:
i recently seen another supp company came out with a DAA product looks pretty good and they split the doses in morning and afternoon…they also added other natural test boosting compounds that supposedly help deliver and inhance DAA…price not bad either[/quote]
thats what I was referring to[/quote]
I ordered the DAA, that you mentioned, so I will be doing the split doses morning/ bedtime…this thread got me curious
[quote]cutthoat25 wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]cutthoat25 wrote:
i recently seen another supp company came out with a DAA product looks pretty good and they split the doses in morning and afternoon…they also added other natural test boosting compounds that supposedly help deliver and inhance DAA…price not bad either[/quote]
thats what I was referring to[/quote]
I ordered the DAA, that you mentioned, so I will be doing the split doses morning/ bedtime…this thread got me curious[/quote]
Keep me posted on it !
I ordered the normal DAA since im already supplementing with zinc, vit c, selenium, magnesium ! I think ill split the dose in half even with DAA only tough
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]cutthoat25 wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]cutthoat25 wrote:
i recently seen another supp company came out with a DAA product looks pretty good and they split the doses in morning and afternoon…they also added other natural test boosting compounds that supposedly help deliver and inhance DAA…price not bad either[/quote]
thats what I was referring to[/quote]
I ordered the DAA, that you mentioned, so I will be doing the split doses morning/ bedtime…this thread got me curious[/quote]
Keep me posted on it !
I ordered the normal DAA since im already supplementing with zinc, vit c, selenium, magnesium ! I think ill split the dose in half even with DAA only tough[/quote]
I’m thinking about splitting it also after you posted that info, thanks.
I’ll probably do 2g DAA + 2g TMG upon waking and 1/1 before bed.
[quote]Detroitlionsbaby wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
DAA studies have been done in animal models and NMDA is sort of avoided because of the neurotoxicity buzz.
[/quote]
Lol neurotoxicity is rapidly being associated with major neurobiological malfunctions. Probably shouldn’t be taken lightly. This is coming from someone who has helped study it first hand.[/quote]
Do you have any research or findings with NMDA though? I’d be interesting on hearing about them.
I’m only going to be using the DAA + methyl donor for 4 weeks so I can’t say I’m too worried about it unless I see some very convincing proof. Thanks for the heads up though.
You guys are playing with basic brain chemistry. There a many things that will do some of these these [non testosterone] related things. cognitivenutrition has many items to explore. The topic is huge.
Many things that you try to introduce into the brain are quickly broken down. So effects can be limited brief. The doses that are effective are also very high. If you use low dose deprenyl/seleginine, a selective MAO-B inhibitor, the the effects of amino acid type substances can be increased and extended, while using much lower doses. And the effective amount of dopamine in your brain, and other neural transmitters, will be increased, also increasing one’s sense of well-being and libido, increasing intensity of orgasm too.
Anything that increases dopamine will tend to reduce prolactin. When deprenyl is combined with a dopergenic drug like cabergoline, the increases of dopamine from the cabergoline are increased by increasing the effective active life of the dopamine molecules. As one would expect, the amount of cabergoline required is reduced. There are some interesting synergies. Note that low dose deprenyl and seleginine are both very free of side effects.
Note that an non selective MAO drug can have some dangerous effects. And deprenyl can increase some effects of some things that are not positive. One can get dopamine overload for instance. Deprenyl is typically available in 5mg caps. All that you would need is 2.5mg EOD. Deprenyl is a selective B-MAO in doses up to 10mg/day. So there is a huge safety margin in this 1.25mg/day dosing.
Deprenyl has a rather short half life, but its inhibitory effects on MAO are long duration, more like 10 days.
All that most doctors know about MAO’s [inhibitors] is that they are dangerous. So it can be a hard sell.
We all loose dopamine as we age. Many of the characteristics of old persons is a loss of dopamine. When the losses are high, it is called Parkinson’s disease. There is a limit of how long we can live if we eliminate other causes of death. We would all die of Parkinson’s. Deprenyl has been shown to extend the life of mice by 30% and the added life extension was not one of lingering old age, but a better overall state of health and activity. Because the brain is poorly understood, we do not have a well developed understanding of brain health and the support of brain health. Another vast subject and really nothing that your doctor will understand… want some Prozac?
ok so i recvd my DAA today, and I was wondering if taking it at the same time of day as my other supplements(multi-vitamin, Spike) would be ok? I usually down everything in the morning, but since the DAA is suppossed to be takin in the morning on empty stomach Im not sure if its kosher or not. Anyone have any thoughts, or share how you handle mixing pills?
[quote]KSman wrote:
You guys are playing with basic brain chemistry. There a many things that will do some of these these [non testosterone] related things. cognitivenutrition has many items to explore. The topic is huge.
Many things that you try to introduce into the brain are quickly broken down. So effects can be limited brief. The doses that are effective are also very high. If you use low dose deprenyl/seleginine, a selective MAO-B inhibitor, the the effects of amino acid type substances can be increased and extended, while using much lower doses. And the effective amount of dopamine in your brain, and other neural transmitters, will be increased, also increasing one’s sense of well-being and libido, increasing intensity of orgasm too.
Anything that increases dopamine will tend to reduce prolactin. When deprenyl is combined with a dopergenic drug like cabergoline, the increases of dopamine from the cabergoline are increased by increasing the effective active life of the dopamine molecules. As one would expect, the amount of cabergoline required is reduced. There are some interesting synergies. Note that low dose deprenyl and seleginine are both very free of side effects.
Note that an non selective MAO drug can have some dangerous effects. And deprenyl can increase some effects of some things that are not positive. One can get dopamine overload for instance. Deprenyl is typically available in 5mg caps. All that you would need is 2.5mg EOD. Deprenyl is a selective B-MAO in doses up to 10mg/day. So there is a huge safety margin in this 1.25mg/day dosing.
Deprenyl has a rather short half life, but its inhibitory effects on MAO are long duration, more like 10 days.
All that most doctors know about MAO’s [inhibitors] is that they are dangerous. So it can be a hard sell.
We all loose dopamine as we age. Many of the characteristics of old persons is a loss of dopamine. When the losses are high, it is called Parkinson’s disease. There is a limit of how long we can live if we eliminate other causes of death. We would all die of Parkinson’s. Deprenyl has been shown to extend the life of mice by 30% and the added life extension was not one of lingering old age, but a better overall state of health and activity. Because the brain is poorly understood, we do not have a well developed understanding of brain health and the support of brain health. Another vast subject and really nothing that your doctor will understand… want some Prozac?
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ok i just read that four times over…
what do YOU recommend regarding DAA supplementation?
or are there better/safer(?) ways of getting the same desired effects?
i’m guessing your profession/edu is related to brain mechanism’s and the like.