[quote]World1187 wrote:
Cortes wrote:
Next cycle is probably going to be an 8-weeker high-dose cycle inspired by World’s current run (thank you, World). I’ll most likely be using test and tren. Probably 750 test/350 tren a week. I’ll post a new thread asking questions about this one soon.
A few things to keep in mind about these short cycles.
A kick start will be necessary since it’s going to be so short, even one week will make a big difference. Kick it off with drol r something.
I like waiting till the Class I is in full effect before adding (or re-adding) other compounds. So wait till around week 3 or so for the tren ace. I’ve talked to other guys about the tren ace sides and apparently they believe they’re just as bad at 50mg ED as the 75mg ED I took. I did notice they seem to decrease significantly after the first day or two.
One mistake I made was using ace first and planning to use enan at the end of the cycle. Like I’ve said before, my cycle is largely experimental so I want to see how I react to the enan opposed to ace. I understand the side effects can be non-existent or at least greatly diminished.
My advice to you, wait until week 3 or so, then add in a goood amount of tren (5-600mg/wk) along with some sort of strong oral, like anadrol. The reason I added winny as well is that it does a good job for me of preventing drol sides.
As far as the tren goes, my advice is to start with enan during weeks 3 and 4. Then on weeks 7 and 8, use the ace since it exits your system much quicker and preps you for your recovery.
Just a few thoughts…[/quote]
I appreciate the detailed advice, World. I think I’ll start that thread right now and hopefully with your help and that of others I can design a great next cycle.
I gotta say, I am impressed with your results. In fact, it was your dark side thread that I’ve modeled my first cycle… with a bit of variation. Your results are the clincher. Thank you Cortes.
[quote]kroby wrote:
I gotta say, I am impressed with your results. In fact, it was your dark side thread that I’ve modeled my first cycle… with a bit of variation. Your results are the clincher. Thank you Cortes.[/quote]
Hey, thanks a lot Kroby! Have you started yours yet?
[quote]kroby wrote:
I gotta say, I am impressed with your results. In fact, it was your dark side thread that I’ve modeled my first cycle… with a bit of variation. Your results are the clincher. Thank you Cortes.[/quote]
Quick question Kroby:
Are you modelling your first cycle after Cortes’ 500mg/wk test enan cycle or are you considering doing something similar to his future tren+test+dbol cycle?
Another observation. 5 weeks into the taper I am feeling my testicle size return to normal. No way to be scientific about it because I did not take prior measurements, but I can feel the size increase. In addition, ejaculate volume is almost back to normal. The last few weeks of my cycle the volume was very low, to say the least. Libido is somewhat below what it was on cycle, but pretty much healthy and normal as compared to pre-cycle.
All in all, good stuff. We are getting back to normal.
I think that if nothing else your cycle proves that following the recommendations that get posted over and over again for first cycles is a good move.
I wish I would have done the same cycle you did for my first (I went with Primo and OT which ended up making me lethargic, crippled with back pumps, and eventually unable to nut)…I added in test and masteron, lose the OT, and bam - everythings great…just wish I would have started it off with just test at 500mg/w like everyone told me to because i think i could have made much better gains.
I think like a lot of newbies I had the mistaken belief that there were better (more cleaver) stacks than just taking test. That I could mix and match to get the best of both worlds. Reality is that it is the best drug out there and really the best choice for any first time cycle.
[quote]FuriousGeorge wrote:
I think that if nothing else your cycle proves that following the recommendations that get posted over and over again for first cycles is a good move.
I wish I would have done the same cycle you did for my first (I went with Primo and OT which ended up making me lethargic, crippled with back pumps, and eventually unable to nut)…I added in test and masteron, lose the OT, and bam - everythings great…just wish I would have started it off with just test at 500mg/w like everyone told me to because i think i could have made much better gains.
I think like a lot of newbies I had the mistaken belief that there were better (more cleaver) stacks than just taking test. That I could mix and match to get the best of both worlds. Reality is that it is the best drug out there and really the best choice for any first time cycle. [/quote]
Another thing I never see talked about, and that I just thought about myself, that running a simple test first cycle does, is that it gives you more time and experience to put together better subsequent cycles. If I had fucked everything up my first cycle and run, say, deca and anadrol only, then it would have been not only lost gains and libido, but lost time and experience, and also confidence.
Going through an entire cycle once the way it should be done gives you the experience to understand how adding other elements to the cycle is going to affect you, and it also gives you a hightened understanding of what is going on, enabling you to choose better compounds and dosages and combinations in the future. Couple this last with the added study time, and the future looks a lot less like a bag of smashed assholes, and a lot more like roses and jigglin titties.
[quote]GetSwole wrote:
Sorry to resurrect, I was trying to figure out how to comment on your profile but I couldn’t figure it out…
Should’ve mentioned this a while ago but…Nice work on the last cycle, you look like a brute in your after photo.[/quote]
Thanks, GetSwole.
I should probably update at this point, anyway.
I sometimes act in commercials here, and I am doing two more in two weeks time. Unfortunately, because my last year long bulk was so “hardcore,” I developed a fat face in the process. So for the past two weeks I’ve been forced to start dieting down a bit and doing cardio 4 days out of the week (gotta look pretty, the Japanese are unforgiving about fat). Obviously this will have to continue until mid March. I appear to be losing only fat, but I’m sure I will lose some of that muscle that I put on as well.
Anyway shape is coming out well and I actually look better than I ever have. I’ve never seen so much definition in my legs, abs are starting to show up again, and my face is leaning out, which is the most important thing. If anybody is interested in seeing one of my commercials just shoot me a PM.
Great cycle, I know I am posting late, but I was interested because you had a VERY shockingly similar build to me, but a little leaner. I was wondering this because I walk around the house with my shirt off when I feel like it and my sister is poking at my belly telling me I’m fat, yet I don’t have any buldge. I have just about the same measurements as you give or take half an inch, but you look better because of the lower amount of body fat %. I wonder what I can achieve on cycle.
But I’m straying from the point. Very nice cycle and you look great. It’s like looking in a mirror with lower bodyfat. :d
Thanks for the comments, I appreciate them. You can follow the entire progress of the cycle on my original The Dark Side thread, if you are interested.
This was my first cycle. Next one starts in 2 weeks!
Late to the party. Nice job Cortes. You mentioned problems sleeping. You also mentioned taking Tren. Be prepared you might have some even more restless nights, maybe. Good Luck.
[quote]sapasion wrote:
Late to the party. Nice job Cortes. You mentioned problems sleeping. You also mentioned taking Tren. Be prepared you might have some even more restless nights, maybe. Good Luck.[/quote]
Thanks sapasion!
Yeah, believe it or not that is what I am most worried about. From my research it seems like if you can stick out the first week or so it gets better. Also I don’t plan on putting on 30 lbs in just over a month this time around so that should hopefully not get as bad, either.
Not everyone gets the night sweats and the restless nights. In my case I work nights so being up all night is a good thing, heck its required. I would say even I tend to average less sleep per week on Tren than off. In my case though its not that drastic. Besides I’d gladly sacrifice an hour of sleep for the benefits of Tren.