I’ve tried various diet plans over the years and the effects are mediocre at best. I’m very active, keep the fat and carbs low, but have some very stubborn fat around the middle. Seems like I have to go on the Concentration Camp Diet to lose the fat 
I’ve thought of trying the Velocity Diet. Any older guys tried it?
HH
BTW: 51, 6’6", 285. Lots of muscle, too damn much fat!!
Can’t the doctor at the retirement home help you out with this?
[quote]Miserere wrote:
Can’t the doctor at the retirement home help you out with this?[/quote]
Yeah, and why bother with a diet when you are likely to stroke out and die before you hit your goal anyway?
Seroously, though, there is a trick that might help. It does take a little time to set up, but it will give you a good fat-burning workout.
First you need a long hallway with a door at one end. At the other end, place somthing to act a a goal to strive for.
A picture of Angela Lansbury and a Metamucil Bar should do it.
Now, hammer 2 nails into the doorfame on the side opposite the hall. Run bungee cords from the nails to your walker. Try to get to yummy Angela! If you make it, just eat the bar and add more bungee cords until you have the proper resistance.
Be careful - you don’t want to break a hip!
Wow, the over 35 board is brutal. I’m new here so I’m can’t tell if there is a great sense of humor or if everyone is being a dick. lol
[quote]john316 wrote:
Wow, the over 35 board is brutal. I’m new here so I’m can’t tell if there is a great sense of humor or if everyone is being a dick. lol [/quote]
Both.
Hmmm…after searching the site and finding no useful info and posting my question, these are the responses. I guess trolls have nothing better to do.
Go back to tuning your man-whistles now, boys.
HH
I am using Joel Marion’s Cheater’s Diet and the results thus far have been positive for this old guy (37) and his old gal (40).
Seems like the older you get the more important the details are.
Are you keeping a diet log? Have you determined your caloric baseline?
That was some funny shit!
Anyhow, just because you are old doesn’t mean the same rules don’t apply to you… it’s just more difficult.
I haven’t tried it yet myself, but the HRX seems to be helping some people get at that stubborn fat. If you posted elsewhere that you gave it a shot, I missed it. Anyway, I’ll be giving it a try myself before too long.
Since turning forty, I’ve had real problems with abdominal fat increase. I have a chronic knee injury which forced me to stop playing football and 5 a side a couple of years ago.
I’ve tried quite a few different diets, mainly based around small meals six times a day. I struggled to get my arse out of bed at 6.00 am to get to the gym in time for incline treadmill walks. Results have been minimal and I’d given up in disgust.
However a few weeks ago I decided to have one last attempt. I’ve taken aspects of several diets (Warrior, Velocity, Cheaters) and combined them to suit me.
I get hungry at night, and can honestly go without food most of the day (especially work days (office). Using the “traditional” six meals spread over the day I’d already eaten 4-5 times at least prior to 6pm, when I wasn’t really hungry, but from all the reading I’ve done this was the “best” way to do it. However as I said results were minimal and I’d become discouraged and accepted that I was destined to become fatter as part of the natural aging process.
I started my diet around 3 weeks ago and have lost 5Kg (about 1 1/2 " from the waist. I workout daily short & intense (30-40 minutes) & strength levels have maintained/increased. I’ve ditched the early mroning walks which I detested.
I allow 1 meal per day, whatever I want, but I tend to stick to good stuff. In addition I have two to three protein shakes (velocity type). Thats it. I tend to cram these in at night (warrior) when I am naturally at my hungriest. Sometimes I’ll have a shake at lunchtime if I feel like it or immediately before my workout (5.30 pm), but usually all the eating occurs between 6pm & 10 pm.
I’ve had a few days where I’ve had family outings , barbeques etc & I just pig out, but make sure I get onto the diet the next day (Cheaters).
The results have been great so far, it may not last, I don’t know. However the more results I’m seeing, the more committed I’m becoming.
No diet is easy, but if you’re seeing results it makes it more bearable.
I’m 48, natural, trained for God knows how many years & love it.
Gazz
[quote]Gazz wrote:
Since turning forty, I’ve had real problems with abdominal fat increase. I have a chronic knee injury which forced me to stop playing football and 5 a side a couple of years ago.
I’ve tried quite a few different diets, mainly based around small meals six times a day. I struggled to get my arse out of bed at 6.00 am to get to the gym in time for incline treadmill walks. Results have been minimal and I’d given up in disgust.
However a few weeks ago I decided to have one last attempt. I’ve taken aspects of several diets (Warrior, Velocity, Cheaters) and combined them to suit me.
I get hungry at night, and can honestly go without food most of the day (especially work days (office). Using the “traditional” six meals spread over the day I’d already eaten 4-5 times at least prior to 6pm, when I wasn’t really hungry, but from all the reading I’ve done this was the “best” way to do it. However as I said results were minimal and I’d become discouraged and accepted that I was destined to become fatter as part of the natural aging process.
I started my diet around 3 weeks ago and have lost 5Kg (about 1 1/2 " from the waist. I workout daily short & intense (30-40 minutes) & strength levels have maintained/increased. I’ve ditched the early mroning walks which I detested.
I allow 1 meal per day, whatever I want, but I tend to stick to good stuff. In addition I have two to three protein shakes (velocity type). Thats it. I tend to cram these in at night (warrior) when I am naturally at my hungriest. Sometimes I’ll have a shake at lunchtime if I feel like it or immediately before my workout (5.30 pm), but usually all the eating occurs between 6pm & 10 pm.
I’ve had a few days where I’ve had family outings , barbeques etc & I just pig out, but make sure I get onto the diet the next day (Cheaters).
The results have been great so far, it may not last, I don’t know. However the more results I’m seeing, the more committed I’m becoming.
No diet is easy, but if you’re seeing results it makes it more bearable.
I’m 48, natural, trained for God knows how many years & love it.
Gazz
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Your situation sounds like mine — I’m rarely hungry during the day, so if I eat, guess where the calories go. Tried the Warrior diet and lost 11 or so pounds but then the weight sat there.
I will try the cheaters diet AND keep a food log, which I’ve tried to do before. The trouble there is to remember to keep the thing up to date; keep forgetting.
Thanks Gazz and most of the other guys for the help.
HH
I lost 40 pounds this year and then I plateaud hard. I did Mauro Dipasquales Radical Diet for 5 weeks and it worked incredibly. I instantly broke the plateau and lost another 12 pounds while not losing any strength. It is a version of the Anabolic diet but designed to lose the fat as fast as possible. I really thought I would lose muscle on it but I came back every Monday just as strong as the previous week but with a half inch lost on my weight each week. I was doing an hour of cardio 6 days a week too. But I wasn’t losing any weight anymore doing an hour of cardio so this diet kicked my fat burning back into overdrive.
You basically go very very low cal for 5-6 days 1000-1200 calories fat and protein and then 1 carb up day. I went with 2 carb up days though like the anabolic diet so that I could make sure to gain any lost muscle back. The radical diet calls for going 1000-1200 calories until you lose 2-3 pounds (called a ministep), once you hit that ministep goal you have a 2000 calorie day of whatever you want to eat. Then you go back to 1000-1200 calories until you hit your next ministep. The 1000-1200 cals may sound extreme, and it is but if you do it right you won’t lose muscle - it isn’t a long term solution but only something to break a plateau or get rid of weight quickly if you are very overweight. I started losing a half inch a week off my waist for that 5 weeks. I had previously already lost 7 inches off my waist in 5 months and it came to a halt so this diet enabled me to lose another 2 1/2 inches quickly.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
…keep the fat and carbs low…[/quote]
HH,
Thought not your age for at least another decade… have you tried to increase the healthy fats while keeping the carbs low? You may want to try Dr. B’s “Get Shredded Diet” to reach your goals. I’ve been reading that other people are seeing some positive results with it in the initial stages.
~V
[quote]john316 wrote:
I lost 40 pounds this year and then I plateaud hard. I did Mauro Dipasquales Radical Diet for 5 weeks and it worked incredibly. I instantly broke the plateau and lost another 12 pounds while not losing any strength. It is a version of the Anabolic diet but designed to lose the fat as fast as possible. I really thought I would lose muscle on it but I came back every Monday just as strong as the previous week but with a half inch lost on my weight each week. I was doing an hour of cardio 6 days a week too. But I wasn’t losing any weight anymore doing an hour of cardio so this diet kicked my fat burning back into overdrive.
You basically go very very low cal for 5-6 days 1000-1200 calories fat and protein and then 1 carb up day. I went with 2 carb up days though like the anabolic diet so that I could make sure to gain any lost muscle back. The radical diet calls for going 1000-1200 calories until you lose 2-3 pounds (called a ministep), once you hit that ministep goal you have a 2000 calorie day of whatever you want to eat. Then you go back to 1000-1200 calories until you hit your next ministep. The 1000-1200 cals may sound extreme, and it is but if you do it right you won’t lose muscle - it isn’t a long term solution but only something to break a plateau or get rid of weight quickly if you are very overweight. I started losing a half inch a week off my waist for that 5 weeks. I had previously already lost 7 inches off my waist in 5 months and it came to a halt so this diet enabled me to lose another 2 1/2 inches quickly. [/quote]
do you have a link to this diet?
i did the v diet and lost about 7 lbs the lack of energy was way to much and my workouts started to suck so i stopped
[quote]brunottfn wrote:
do you have a link to this diet? [/quote]
https://www.mdplusstore.com/viewitem.asp?idproduct=13
I have the eBook - email me and I’ll let you borrow it. rkp28@hotmail.com
If I ever get to thinking that I am old, I’ll then tell you my diet secrets Sonny.
Hi Headhunter
I hope this info of mine helps you
I was 183 pounds on 4 Jan & dieted down to 154 pounds in 18 weeks for my first competition. I started out by removing rubbish food from my diet and lost 5 pounds. Then I started running for 3 miles before breakfast each morning & keeping my nutrition clean. By doing that I lost another 9 pounds. So, 14 pounds gone in 9 weeks and then the fat loss stopped. I did the Velocity diet for 3 days & messed up the calculations. I ate less than my basal metabolic rate each day & lost 7 pounds in 3 days including 3 pounds of muscle. That freaked me out so I stopped the V diet.
I tried Thib’s carb cycling and realised that if I ate over 90 gms of carbs a day then I added fat. So I cycled them but in a different way - 3 days of 90gms of carbs followed by a clean carb up day. Then 4 days of low carbs, then 5 days of low carbs, then 7 days of low carbs, all followed ny a carb up of between 300gms and 600gms. I learned that carbing up with over 450gms of carbs added fat. As the fat loss stalled I kept reducing the carbs right down to 25gms a day but…I fainted on day 3 of 25gms a day so that was my absolute minimum and I eased the carbs back up.
Everyone is different so it’s a trial and error thing. Follow a similar plan with say 100gms of carbs a day for 3 days & have a clean carb up day on day 4. Repeat the cycle & then adjust as you go along. It will work for you
I am starting the Velocity Diet again tomorrow properly. I am back to 167 pounds now, 6 weeks after the comp & am comfortable at that weight although my abs are much less sharp. I want to lose 7 pounds of fat off my abs in readiness for my bellybutton op in 3 weeks time. I’ll let you know how it works this time round. Good luck
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I’ve tried various diet plans over the years and the effects are mediocre at best. I’m very active, keep the fat and carbs low, but have some very stubborn fat around the middle. Seems like I have to go on the Concentration Camp Diet to lose the fat
I’ve thought of trying the Velocity Diet. Any older guys tried it?
HH
BTW: 51, 6’6", 285. Lots of muscle, too damn much fat!![/quote]
The stubborn fat around the middle as you get older is often related to lower testosterone and higher estrogen. My suggestions: first try REZ-V and Alpha Male. If this does not work, get your test levels checked. You may find that an anti-estrogen such as clomid helps as well.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I will try the cheaters diet AND keep a food log, which I’ve tried to do before. The trouble there is to remember to keep the thing up to date; keep forgetting.
[/quote]
Try using fitday.com. Make it your homepage in the web browser. That way, at least, you’ll see it everytime you start the browser.