[quote]myself1992 wrote:
I have cut around 15 pound in the last couple months and my strength has not decreased, in fact, it has increased. As was previously stated, reassess what you’re doing if you’re losing excessive strength while cutting. You might be cutting too quickly or not training properly amongst other things[/quote]
Agreed with this.
And at the end of the day anything you want badly sometimes comes with a price. If you want to get lean and get a little weaker, lose a little muscle, that’s ok because you’ll look 10x better.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
This is honestly the first time my strength has not dropped. I do notice some days where I can’t do as many reps with the same weight (I am sure due to the lack of carbs in my diet lately), but no drastic strength decreases lately.
Excessive cardio is the devil and will rob you of any hard earned muscle.
Also, dieting before you SOLIDIFY those gains is a great way to lose everything as well.[/quote]
are you dieting for a show Prof or just for yourself? How much weight have you dropped so far?[/quote]
Not a show. I just have something coming up and a date set. If I showed you the pics taken in the last month, you would probably think I lost at least 20lbs but the scale hasn’t moved that much.[/quote]
Sweet. The actual number on the scale doesn’t really matter anyway, it’s all about how you look.
What approach are taking with this diet? Carb cycling? Pulse feast? Intermittent Fasting? Regular old small caloric deficit?
(if you don’t really want to get into it in here I understand)
[quote]Professor X wrote:
This is honestly the first time my strength has not dropped. I do notice some days where I can’t do as many reps with the same weight (I am sure due to the lack of carbs in my diet lately), but no drastic strength decreases lately.
Excessive cardio is the devil and will rob you of any hard earned muscle.
Also, dieting before you SOLIDIFY those gains is a great way to lose everything as well.[/quote]
are you dieting for a show Prof or just for yourself? How much weight have you dropped so far?[/quote]
Not a show. I just have something coming up and a date set. If I showed you the pics taken in the last month, you would probably think I lost at least 20lbs but the scale hasn’t moved that much.[/quote]
Sweet. The actual number on the scale doesn’t really matter anyway, it’s all about how you look.
What approach are taking with this diet? Carb cycling? Pulse feast? Intermittent Fasting? Regular old small caloric deficit?
(if you don’t really want to get into it in here I understand)[/quote]
I will go into that in about a month unless the same crew turning most threads into crap are still up to it.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
This is honestly the first time my strength has not dropped. I do notice some days where I can’t do as many reps with the same weight (I am sure due to the lack of carbs in my diet lately), but no drastic strength decreases lately.
Excessive cardio is the devil and will rob you of any hard earned muscle.
Also, dieting before you SOLIDIFY those gains is a great way to lose everything as well.[/quote]
are you dieting for a show Prof or just for yourself? How much weight have you dropped so far?[/quote]
Not a show. I just have something coming up and a date set. If I showed you the pics taken in the last month, you would probably think I lost at least 20lbs but the scale hasn’t moved that much.[/quote]
Sweet. The actual number on the scale doesn’t really matter anyway, it’s all about how you look.
What approach are taking with this diet? Carb cycling? Pulse feast? Intermittent Fasting? Regular old small caloric deficit?
(if you don’t really want to get into it in here I understand)[/quote]
I will go into that in about a month unless the same crew turning most threads into crap are still up to it.[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
This is honestly the first time my strength has not dropped. I do notice some days where I can’t do as many reps with the same weight (I am sure due to the lack of carbs in my diet lately), but no drastic strength decreases lately.
Excessive cardio is the devil and will rob you of any hard earned muscle.
Also, dieting before you SOLIDIFY those gains is a great way to lose everything as well.[/quote]
are you dieting for a show Prof or just for yourself? How much weight have you dropped so far?[/quote]
Not a show. I just have something coming up and a date set. If I showed you the pics taken in the last month, you would probably think I lost at least 20lbs but the scale hasn’t moved that much.[/quote]
Sweet. The actual number on the scale doesn’t really matter anyway, it’s all about how you look.
What approach are taking with this diet? Carb cycling? Pulse feast? Intermittent Fasting? Regular old small caloric deficit?
(if you don’t really want to get into it in here I understand)[/quote]
I will go into that in about a month unless the same crew turning most threads into crap are still up to it.[/quote]
as said you shouldnt really lose strength or muscle when dieting . how mucch weight were you losing a week ? .
imo half a pound a week max is a safe rate of weight loss and if youre keeping intensity the same when training your strength/muscle sould stay the same . the mistake most people make is dropping cals to low and losing weight to fast along with LOADS of cardio .
[quote]lia67 wrote:
as said you shouldnt really lose strength or muscle when dieting . how mucch weight were you losing a week ? .
imo half a pound a week max is a safe rate of weight loss and if youre keeping intensity the same when training your strength/muscle sould stay the same . the mistake most people make is dropping cals to low and losing weight to fast along with LOADS of cardio .[/quote]
I would say the biggest mistake people make is wanting results yesterday so they gain weight too fast, get fat too fast, get scared too fast, diet too fast, lose all of their muscle too fast, and then repeat real fast.
I guess I’m the exception, but I’ve been dieting for about 11 weeks now, I’m still not that lean, and I’ve lost a fairly good bit of strength on my big movements. Don’t think I’m dieting away muscle mass either.
Same thing happened last time I dieted. It came back, and then some, with the rebound, so I’m not stressing, but it’s definitely a mindfuck.
[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:
I guess I’m the exception, but I’ve been dieting for about 11 weeks now, I’m still not that lean, and I’ve lost a fairly good bit of strength on my big movements. Don’t think I’m dieting away muscle mass either.
Same thing happened last time I dieted. It came back, and then some, with the rebound, so I’m not stressing, but it’s definitely a mindfuck.[/quote]
I USUALLY drop strength. I know that MAG-10 is the main reason I’m not this time. I know I keep saying that, but if I was trying what I am doing now with regular protein shakes I would be dropping muscle like a rock and my strength would be down some.
I also read coffee drinkers are 17% less likely to become diabetic…Useless info really for those of us that train and eat good, but more reason for me to have a cup or two before my workout.
[quote]Jab1 wrote:
Any good stims which are caffeine free? Coffee is so convenient but it seriously fucks with my digestion (triggers ibs for me).[/quote]
It probably isn’t the caffeine that’s triggering your IBS; I take loads of caffeine and it doesn’t do that to me, but coffee does.
Other than the usual things (like guarana/green tea/black tea/coffee/ephedra etc), I’d say just drink a simple sugar before training like glucose (aka dextrose). About 30-50g should give you a lift/boost.
Adaptogen herbs like ginseng are pretty good for mild lifting/simulating effect (they support energy production/performance/stamina), although they usually take 3-6 weeks before they fully work.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Stims are good for the metabolism too.
I also read coffee drinkers are 17% less likely to become diabetic…Useless info really for those of us that train and eat good, but more reason for me to have a cup or two before my workout.[/quote]
Something I should have know a decade ago haha. I am Type 2 and I have never been a coffee drinker throughout. Strange. Or just a coincidence. That and hereditary, environment, lifestyle, blah, blah.
Back on topic, noticing no drop in strength through cutting so far, reps are up, weight is up. Makes me even more confident reading through the replies here.
[quote]lia67 wrote:
as said you shouldnt really lose strength or muscle when dieting . how mucch weight were you losing a week ? .
imo half a pound a week max is a safe rate of weight loss and if youre keeping intensity the same when training your strength/muscle sould stay the same . the mistake most people make is dropping cals to low and losing weight to fast along with LOADS of cardio .[/quote]
I would say the biggest mistake people make is wanting results yesterday so they gain weight too fast, get fat too fast, get scared too fast, diet too fast, lose all of their muscle too fast, and then repeat real fast.[/quote]
yeah this was me about 10 years ago when i first started and i ended up spinning my wheels for about 4/5 years ,you end up yo yo’ing bulk cut bulk cut . as for the weight loss what hit me was if i dieted fast and lost a lot of muscle/strength all those last yelling grinding inch by inch reps of squat or what ever had all been a waist of time . i stick to half a pound/week max
[quote]Jab1 wrote:
Any good stims which are caffeine free? Coffee is so convenient but it seriously fucks with my digestion (triggers ibs for me).[/quote]
As was said, experiment with pure caffeine if you haven’t. Then there’s always things like Power Drive and Alpha-GPC.
[quote]Jab1 wrote:
Any good stims which are caffeine free? Coffee is so convenient but it seriously fucks with my digestion (triggers ibs for me).[/quote]
It probably isn’t the caffeine that’s triggering your IBS; I take loads of caffeine and it doesn’t do that to me, but coffee does.
Other than the usual things (like guarana/green tea/black tea/coffee/ephedra etc), I’d say just drink a simple sugar before training like glucose (aka dextrose). About 30-50g should give you a lift/boost.
Adaptogen herbs like ginseng are pretty good for mild lifting/simulating effect (they support energy production/performance/stamina), although they usually take 3-6 weeks before they fully work.[/quote]
This is very interesting. I did a bit of research after reading what you wrote and it seems you are right, turns out it’s an enzyme in coffee and not the caffeine which is the primary irritant. Thanks for your other suggestions too, I think I’ll be experimenting a bit.
[quote]kakno wrote:
[quote]Jab1 wrote:
Any good stims which are caffeine free? Coffee is so convenient but it seriously fucks with my digestion (triggers ibs for me).[/quote]
As was said, experiment with pure caffeine if you haven’t. Then there’s always things like Power Drive and Alpha-GPC. [/quote]
Everything down a little today and elbow tenderness getting very real. Have been doing circuits up until now… the pullups are pissing off connective tissue in the elbow.
Will space things out for the next 5 days or so till things are feeling brighter.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
This is honestly the first time my strength has not dropped. I do notice some days where I can’t do as many reps with the same weight (I am sure due to the lack of carbs in my diet lately), but no drastic strength decreases lately.
Excessive cardio is the devil and will rob you of any hard earned muscle.
Also, dieting before you SOLIDIFY those gains is a great way to lose everything as well.[/quote]
are you dieting for a show Prof or just for yourself? How much weight have you dropped so far?[/quote]
Not a show. I just have something coming up and a date set. If I showed you the pics taken in the last month, you would probably think I lost at least 20lbs but the scale hasn’t moved that much.[/quote]
Started by just stripping cals away from diet, old school cal deficit
Sweet. The actual number on the scale doesn’t really matter anyway, it’s all about how you look.
What approach are taking with this diet? Carb cycling? Pulse feast? Intermittent Fasting? Regular old small caloric deficit?
(if you don’t really want to get into it in here I understand)[/quote]