Looking for a little guidance on shedding fat for an upcoming trip with the Mrs.
Currently cruising on Test 125mg weekly w/ HCG 3x weekly.
Bloods just came back…
Test: 688
Free test: 182.5
Progesterone: <0.10
E2: 40.2
Going to cut the HCG to try and bring down E2.
I have 14 weeks until vacation.
Was thinking of going to 500mg weekly Test E and running Helios 2 weeks on, 2 off. Finishing woth the last 6 weeks of Anavar 50mg daily.
Thoughts?
I have Test e/p, Mast e/p, Helios, Deca, Tren base, Winny, Anavar and Tbol at my disposal…
Steroids are not for cutting. At best they will help you preserve muscle during a cut which is highly dependent on your nutrition plan and caloric expenditure. If you’re already on TRT I would at most consider a brief stint of Var during the cut phase.
I appreciate it. This was more what I was leaning towards. Being my Test is at 688, I assumed I had a little more room to bring it up before it was a full blown blast. Preserving muscle and strength would be important to me while I try to shed my fat. Ive heard great things about helios and spot reduction, it would be my first time using it. Not to be offensive, if anyone doesnt know what Helios is, its injectable Clen/Yohimbine…
Not to brag (ok, maybe a little bit) but I just lost 35lb in 70 days. Admittedly I did lose some muscle with that but not much. I did it with TRT alone at 130mg/wk. If I wanted to preserve more muscle I would stick to 20mg/day of dbol like I did for my last cut (yes, you can indeed cut with dbol and not be a watery mess. It’s all about diet).
If you have a considerable amount of muscle mass and don’t want to lose it I would suggest a ‘feel good’ steroid like dbol. If you can’t get your hands on it I would use mast e at no more than 200mg/wk or perhaps anavar like blshaw suggested.
I found it more advantageous to stock up on zucchini, eggplant, mushrooms, tomatoes, cabbage, kale and a bunch of lean meats than I did to stock up on drugs for cutting.
When I was young, dumb, and shouldn’t have taken steroids…. I did. Thrice when I was in college. Dbol back then was magic. The pink Thais. When I cycled in recent years I just got virtually nothing out of it and certainly nothing permanent. I tried several verified sources. I don’t know if it’s because back then I was a skinny rat and now I’m pretty yoked or if indeed the supply was just that much better quality. I still remember the god like pumps and feeling of well being. If could recapture that I would almost consider starting to partake in the game again. I’ve committed not too, but hot damn those little pink gems were great.
Well… I agree with the first half. But the last half couldn’t be more incorrect IMO. I couldn’t imagine taking AAS off season, and then dropping them to prepare to compete in a bodybuilding contest. BTW, losing fat is a critical aspect of preparing for a bodybuilding contest, for those who are just wondering.
Everyone says this. “But the pros use ______ during peak”. Yeah, I get that. But I feel like that is a completely different ball game and argument. They need to squeeze every last gram of muscle building and retention out. And, they also throw in a kitchen sink of better, more efficient fat burning compounds that would more suit a normie trying to diet for a vacation.
Edit: I see post all the time of guys wanting to use 500mg test plus 200 tren to lose 20lbs and, while they certainly can do that, it’s a waste of good steroids. They could get the same results using low dose test + Var and save the good stuff for their next bulk. More efficient in just about every way.
From everything ive read, low dose test and Var is the way to go. Im also going to add in my Clen Yohimbine. Either 5 days on 2 off, or 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. Never done clen…
Oxandrolone will help a bit, but it’s all about diet discipline to get lean. Probably no significant value in bumping the T for your goal based on my experience.
Train heavy with lower volume to maintain the muscle/strength you have and cut calories to lose the blubber.
Or maintain calories and increase total energy expenditure.
There’s different ways to increase TDEE/calorie intake differential. Do whatever works best for you.
There is no way I could be a pro. I was not blessed with the genetics to ever become a pro. I’ll add to that I didn’t know what the pros took for the most part. We had heard that the pros took primobolan acetate for contest prep. But I never had the luxury to get any. I didn’t know the quantities.
I never took any fat burning compounds with the exception of Clenbuterol which I took to lose the last bit of fat starting 6 weeks out of a contest. That was to achieve the difference between cut and grainy. Before Clenbuterol most all Overalls were won by the winner of the light-heavyweight class. The heavyweights just couldn’t seem to get as sharp as the lighter classes. Enter Clenbuterol to level the playing field. (Let me say that I would only see the value of Clenbuterol for the stage and otherwise would never take it. I can lose fat through diet alone.)
I must be the dumbest person on earth. I did the exact opposite. I took low doses to bulk and the largest doses for a contest.
Sarcasm aside, you found what works for you. We are all different animals and you are/were far more successful at this game then 99% of the forum users. I for one respect your opinion and experience even if sometimes it differs from mine.
I wonder how much the change is accountable to the move away from pharmaceutical AAS here in the USA. I was in the initial move in my mid 30’s, hoping to find good quality AAS and never knowing what I got. Things changed for the better when I was competing in Masters (turned 40) bodybuilding contests. My workout partner took trips to Europe and purchased pharmaceutical AAS there and shipped it back.
I never took any Dianabol competing in Masters contests. I didn’t know what I was getting.
I think this is common for those that compete. I still think that is a far different ball game than just getting ready for a vacation, or wanting to gain some size in the off season. For your casual AAS user, and that’s who this guy is, low doses to cut, then higher doses to bulk is very common.
