While I’m unsure of any true quality and content in regard to an actual informational and educational (in a technical sense of course) experience, I’m thinking this is more along the lines of every weekend warrior sporting their various Mud-Run/Spartan-Race/Whatever-bassass-term-you-can-come-up-with T-shirts.
One of those “look what I did!” moments, which I guess for people that are fans, are unable to motivate themselves in a similar manner, or just have the money laying around and are looking for someone to yell at them, might seem worthwhile. To each their own I suppose.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Dude. First of all I don’t think his cert means shit. But, why are you pissed about a guy trying to use his publicity to make some cheddar. Arnold did it back in the day before he became famous, and made a lot of money putting his name behind things that were otherwise worthless. Countless Pro Bodybuilders back supplements that aren’t packing on the muscle they claim they do by using those supplements. It’s called capitalism[/quote]
There is nothing wrong with capitalising on an opportunity.
However, from what we have seen CT is offering hardly anything of substance for a ludicrous amount of money when he could probably run something with some merit for a reasonable price and hasn’t.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Dude. First of all I don’t think his cert means shit. But, why are you pissed about a guy trying to use his publicity to make some cheddar. Arnold did it back in the day before he became famous, and made a lot of money putting his name behind things that were otherwise worthless. Countless Pro Bodybuilders back supplements that aren’t packing on the muscle they claim they do by using those supplements. It’s called capitalism[/quote]
No one’s hating… just discussing. [/quote]
I am glad the video was shared. I thinks it’s kinda funny actually.
[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:
New video from yesterday, featuring very-not CT Fletcher. The former pro triathlete and experienced CrossFit Games/Tough Mudder/Spartan Race competitor (and owner of Metroflex) explains what attendees are in for.
Also, apparently we’re all misunderstanding what a “certification” is. From the video’s info section:
"SOME OF YOU MISUNDERSTAND THE “CERTIFICATION”. ITS NOT FOR YOU BITCH MADE MUTHAFUCKAS LOOKING TO USE THIS TO GET A JOB, OR PUT ON YOUR RESUME. THIS IS FOR YOU, TO CHALLENGE YOURSELF! TO SAY YOU FUCKIN’ SURVIVED CT FLETCHER’S 5-DAY TRAINING CAMP, TO SAY YOU DIDN’T FUCKIN’ QUIT, THAT YOU TRAINED WITH THE BAD MUTHAFUCKAS AT METROFLEX LONG BEACH & FINISHED!
HEED THIS WARNING MUTHAFUCKAS, THIS IS ONLY FOR THE BADDEST OF THE BAD, CONSIDER THIS “SEAL” TRAINING FOR IRON ADDICTS. YOU’VE ALL SEEN PERSONAL TRAINERS WHO LOOK LIKE THEY NEVER EVEN SEEN A WEIGHT, AND THE TRAINER WHO LOOKS LIKE THEY NEED A TRAINER, WELL IF THEY SURVIVE MY COURSE, YOU CAN DAMN WELL BE SURE THAT MUTHA FUCKA IS “MORE THAN QUALIFIED” TO GET YO ASS IN SHAPE!
FUCK THE RESUME, THIS IS FOR YOU TO TAKE THIS PERSONAL CHALLENGE. TO BE MASSTERPLAN CERTIFIED ISN’T FOR A JOB, ITS FOR YOU, ITS TO PROVE YOU TOOK MY MUTHAFUCKIN’ CHALLENGE, YOU DID NOT QUIT, YOU A SIDEWALK-CRACKIN MUTHAFUCKA AND YOU TRAINED WITH THE REAL HARDCORE MUTHAFUCKIN’ IRON ADDICT ATHLETES AT METROFLEX."[/quote]
so wait…now I’m confused
is CT only a small part of this 5-day thing? they use his face on the ad and his name which indicated that it was pretty much just his thing (yes I saw the part where it said “and others”)
[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:
New video from yesterday, featuring very-not CT Fletcher. The former pro triathlete and experienced CrossFit Games/Tough Mudder/Spartan Race competitor (and owner of Metroflex) explains what attendees are in for.
Also, apparently we’re all misunderstanding what a “certification” is. From the video’s info section:
"SOME OF YOU MISUNDERSTAND THE “CERTIFICATION”. ITS NOT FOR YOU BITCH MADE MUTHAFUCKAS LOOKING TO USE THIS TO GET A JOB, OR PUT ON YOUR RESUME. THIS IS FOR YOU, TO CHALLENGE YOURSELF! TO SAY YOU FUCKIN’ SURVIVED CT FLETCHER’S 5-DAY TRAINING CAMP, TO SAY YOU DIDN’T FUCKIN’ QUIT, THAT YOU TRAINED WITH THE BAD MUTHAFUCKAS AT METROFLEX LONG BEACH & FINISHED!
HEED THIS WARNING MUTHAFUCKAS, THIS IS ONLY FOR THE BADDEST OF THE BAD, CONSIDER THIS “SEAL” TRAINING FOR IRON ADDICTS. YOU’VE ALL SEEN PERSONAL TRAINERS WHO LOOK LIKE THEY NEVER EVEN SEEN A WEIGHT, AND THE TRAINER WHO LOOKS LIKE THEY NEED A TRAINER, WELL IF THEY SURVIVE MY COURSE, YOU CAN DAMN WELL BE SURE THAT MUTHA FUCKA IS “MORE THAN QUALIFIED” TO GET YO ASS IN SHAPE!
FUCK THE RESUME, THIS IS FOR YOU TO TAKE THIS PERSONAL CHALLENGE. TO BE MASSTERPLAN CERTIFIED ISN’T FOR A JOB, ITS FOR YOU, ITS TO PROVE YOU TOOK MY MUTHAFUCKIN’ CHALLENGE, YOU DID NOT QUIT, YOU A SIDEWALK-CRACKIN MUTHAFUCKA AND YOU TRAINED WITH THE REAL HARDCORE MUTHAFUCKIN’ IRON ADDICT ATHLETES AT METROFLEX."[/quote]
so wait…now I’m confused
is CT only a small part of this 5-day thing? they use his face on the ad and his name which indicated that it was pretty much just his thing (yes I saw the part where it said “and others”)
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lol it would be funny if all CT did was tell everyone it’s still their muthafuckin set
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
While I’m unsure of any true quality and content in regard to an actual informational and educational (in a technical sense of course) experience, I’m thinking this is more along the lines of every weekend warrior sporting their various Mud-Run/Spartan-Race/Whatever-bassass-term-you-can-come-up-with T-shirts.
One of those “look what I did!” moments, which I guess for people that are fans, are unable to motivate themselves in a similar manner, or just have the money laying around and are looking for someone to yell at them, might seem worthwhile. To each their own I suppose.[/quote]
The more I think about it, the more I kinda fall along these lines. For sure, $2,500 is a ridiculous amount to lay out. I can think of a good handful of training or nutrition-related things I’d rather spend that money on. But, devil’s advocate, it is for five days. At $500/day, it sounds a little more reasonable. Kinda.
A few years ago, Ronnie Coleman offered “workout weekends” that were three days for like $850 (meals and hotel included). Dorian Yates offered personal training sessions for almost $200/hour. So, guys will spend big money on lifting, depending on how badly they want facetime with whoever’s offering it.
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
is CT only a small part of this 5-day thing? they use his face on the ad and his name which indicated that it was pretty much just his thing (yes I saw the part where it said “and others”[/quote]
I have a feeling they realized that’s what a lot of people were expecting, so they’re trying to clarify now that the cat’s out of the bag.
Took a quick look through some older videos. Do I believe that some hard workouts and this kind info is worth $500 a day? Well, I respectfully decline to answer.
NOW I KNOW WHAT PEOPLE THAT TYPE LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME TALK LIKE IN REAL LIFE, MOTHERFUCKER!
BTW, I really want a bon bon now. I’ve never had one nor even seen one. In fact, the only other time I heard of them was Married with Children.
If he ended each session with a 30-second video of him with the person that passed, saying how real they are and tough, etc. Then it could be worth it from an advertising/training perspective if you already had a legitimate cert… maybe. Assuming 30-seconds of setup between each video, that’d only be 2 hours for 120 people. Divide that by 4 sessions over 2 days (or even just a clip of him yelling their name while the person lifts)… seems doable.
For all you know, CT’s real persona could just be that nice big gentle teddy bear in his old videos and the guys who shoot his new videos made him grow a beard, write all his lines for him and plan the content of his videos.
[quote]dt79 wrote:
For all you know, CT’s real persona could just be that nice big gentle teddy bear in his old videos and the guys who shoot his new videos made him grow a beard, write all his lines for him and plan the content of his videos.[/quote]
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Dude. First of all I don’t think his cert means shit. But, why are you pissed about a guy trying to use his publicity to make some cheddar. Arnold did it back in the day before he became famous, and made a lot of money putting his name behind things that were otherwise worthless. Countless Pro Bodybuilders back supplements that aren’t packing on the muscle they claim they do by using those supplements. It’s called capitalism[/quote]
However, from what we have seen CT is offering hardly anything of substance [/quote]
People love to see others fail. Jealous of a come up. They’ll mask it with comments like its a waste of people’s money and whatever else. But deep down its simply because they couldn’t and didn’t do it themselves. It’s not your money wtf do you care. It’s smart and ballsy in a sense. Nothing ventured nothing gained. Better then gay for pay. Mutha fuckas.
[quote]roadwarrior83 wrote:
People love to see others fail. Jealous of a come up. They’ll mask it with comments like its a waste of people’s money and whatever else. But deep down its simply because they couldn’t and didn’t do it themselves. It’s not your money wtf do you care. It’s smart and ballsy in a sense. Nothing ventured nothing gained. Better then gay for pay. Mutha fuckas.[/quote]
So, calling out bullshit makes you jealous? Because I think Mike Chang selling a magical new pre workout drink that has the “x factor” for building muscle and burning fat never before discovered, I’m jealous of his come up? It’s just other people’s opinions, wtf do you care. I respect CT as I’ve said. He’s accomplished a lot and has motivated many. But, this in my opinion is just a bunch of bullshit. Yes, it may be a smart business move. Just because it is, doesn’t mean I have to agree with it? Nor does anyone have to agree with my view on it. It’s an arbitrary argument, to say anyone who does not support something, is just jealous of it.
[quote]roadwarrior83 wrote:
People love to see others fail. Jealous of a come up. They’ll mask it with comments like its a waste of people’s money and whatever else. But deep down its simply because they couldn’t and didn’t do it themselves. It’s not your money wtf do you care. It’s smart and ballsy in a sense. Nothing ventured nothing gained. Better then gay for pay. Mutha fuckas.[/quote]
I understand what you’re saying, and in some cases I agree. While I can only speak for myself, I’ve been in situation where I would actually feel horribly guilty if I had chosen to take advantage of people.
Just how do you put a price on something like this? Is it paying for entertainment? For actual information and education? (I’m guessing more of the former in this case)
When I first started getting a few training clients for prep help, looking back, I totally underpriced myself because I had no idea how to price such a service. These days, I charge a bit more, BUT, I recognize that not only is there a point where an asking rate can exceed what service you’re truly providing, but also that not everyone has their 15 minutes of fame window to capitalize on.
At the end of the day, if you’ve got a conscience (and I find that I have more than most, not always a good thing), you may be bothered by taking some advantage of people despite a happy bank account. Most people though, I would assume have no problem once they have a check in their hands.
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
While I’m unsure of any true quality and content in regard to an actual informational and educational (in a technical sense of course) experience, I’m thinking this is more along the lines of every weekend warrior sporting their various Mud-Run/Spartan-Race/Whatever-bassass-term-you-can-come-up-with T-shirts.
One of those “look what I did!” moments, which I guess for people that are fans, are unable to motivate themselves in a similar manner, or just have the money laying around and are looking for someone to yell at them, might seem worthwhile. To each their own I suppose.
S[/quote]
This. It’s also like those baseball fantasy camps where people can shell out $1,000 to spend a couple days taking batting practice with a hitting coach from an MLB team, or a golf weekend where you play a round with an obscure PGA pro. This is an “experience” far more than something from which actual knowledge will be gleaned. I sincerely hope the people attending this are the “cash to burn” types and not poor souls emptying their bank account because they think it’ll boost their business by having this “certification” by their name.
I don’t see the difference between the people paying for this and those that shell out a thousand bucks a year for useless supplements when they could have used this cash for better food and other stuff.
Eventually, the consumer is going to assign value to any product or service. While the value may not lie in actual educational content, if motivation and hope is what people are going to derive from attending CT’s camp, and it gives them the drive to overcome shit in their lives and make progress in the gym, I would say they’re getting their money’s worth.
[quote]roadwarrior83 wrote:
People love to see others fail. Jealous of a come up. They’ll mask it with comments like its a waste of people’s money and whatever else. But deep down its simply because they couldn’t and didn’t do it themselves. It’s not your money wtf do you care. It’s smart and ballsy in a sense. Nothing ventured nothing gained. Better then gay for pay. Mutha fuckas.[/quote]
So, calling out bullshit makes you jealous? Because I think Mike Changs a hot magical new pre workout drink who has the “x factor” for building muscle and burning fat never before discovered, I’m jealous of his come up? It’s just other people’s opinions, wtf do you care. I respect CT as I’ve said. He’s accomplished a lot and has motivated many. But, this in my opinion is just a bunch of bullshit. Yes, it may be a smart business move. Just because it is, doesn’t mean I have to agree with it? Nor does anyone have to agree with my view on it. It’s an arbitrary argument, to say anyone who does not support something, is just jealous of it.
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Your jelly
^ Participant testimonials. Quite a mixed bag: One guy flew in from New Zealand, couple of Canadians, a father and son pair from Minnesota, two or three active Marines, a 16-year old from Florida, and others.
Looks like a partial summary of the training they did.
(Bonus LOL @5:20 when the kid makes himself throw up and then breaks out the catchphrase.)
FWIW, I read somewhere the price might’ve been reduced to $1000 for the five days.
$1000 to spend a weekend training with, and getting shouted at by, CT Fletcher? It’d probably be fun but I don’t think I’d spend that kind of money on it.
EDIT: damn funny when that kid’s like “It’s still my muhfuckin’ set…”
