Crossing Over

Bigger Stronger Leaner Competitive Bodybuilding
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Hello all,
I believe I’ll spend time posting/reading here more often. I’ve come to the conclusion that no matter how many times I think that 3 sets of 8-12 reps is dead, it returns.

At a new 33, I think the bulk of those posters in their teens and 20’s are often not only rude, but incapable of reason and deduction when it comes to quality information. I can’t remember being that thick-headed and emotion-driven once I turned about 22 or so. Is the maturity curve moving or what?

Jaded? Fed up?
Perhaps…or maybe I’m just becoming a bit more realistic.

Anyway, I’ve “moved” over here.

BTW, why is 35 some kind of “cut-off”?

best,
DH

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[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
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BTW, why is 35 some kind of “cut-off”?

best,
DH
[/quote]

Because you an be elected president at 35.

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Boy oh boy!

I sure hope this develops.
Glad to see you 'round Hoss!

:wink:

peace

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[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Disc Hoss wrote:
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BTW, why is 35 some kind of “cut-off”?

best,
DH

Because you an be elected president at 35.[/quote]

And because at 35 you get a liscence in the mail allowing you to use the term “whippersnapper”.

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18 to 34 is a very common advertising demographic group. At 35, you move from “young adult” to “adult” in many demographic profiles. The numbers are based on general trends.

For example, someone over 35 is more likely to buy a luxury car than someone who is 20. Lots of things about you change as you age and 35 is as good a cutoff as any, eh?

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So can I pick your brain here? :slight_smile:

DH, do you have any experience helping a woman get very lean? I’m curious your thoughts on diet, cardio and weights to go from ~19%bf down to ~15%. I’ve never been that lean, but I do have a fair amount of muscle mass on my frame.

I tried the AD last year, but mentally didn’t do well with the weekend carbups (I went off the deep end every weekend with unhealthy choices).

I’m trying to keep it simple, but I’m second-guessing myself a lot. Just wondering if you had any experience/input. Thanks!

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What’s wrong with 3 sets of 8-12 reps?

Why are fat people always trying to fix things that aren’t broken…

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[quote]Roy wrote:

Why are fat people always trying to fix things that aren’t broken…[/quote]

Are you talking to me?

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[quote]Jillybop wrote:
So can I pick your brain here? :slight_smile:

DH, do you have any experience helping a woman get very lean? I’m curious your thoughts on diet, cardio and weights to go from ~19%bf down to ~15%. I’ve never been that lean, but I do have a fair amount of muscle mass on my frame.

I tried the AD last year, but mentally didn’t do well with the weekend carbups (I went off the deep end every weekend with unhealthy choices).

I’m trying to keep it simple, but I’m second-guessing myself a lot. Just wondering if you had any experience/input. Thanks!
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I highly recommend you read Berardi’s nutrition articles. Especially this one:

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/7habits.htm

Do you know your calorie maintenance level? If not, do the math, keep a log and figure it out. Subtract a couple of hundred calories off your maintenance level, divide by six (six meals a day) and now you know how to portion control your meals.

Keeping a log of everything you eat is a pain in the neck, no doubt about it. But consider that most people aren’t lean at all. Being muscular and lean is an extraordinary accomplishment and it takes extraordinary efforts to achieve extraordinary results.

I also highly recommend “Nutrient Timing” by Ivy & Portman.

The trick I use to stay on my diet is that I cook all my meals on the weekend and freeze portion controlled meals in ziplock bags. Before work, I grab three bags of protein (chicken or beef or fish or whatever) and three bags of carbs (veggies) or two bags of veggies and a bag of fresh salad, throw them into a cooler and off I go. At work I pop them into the microwave and have a nutritious and portion controlled meal in two minutes.

Consistency is more important than any other consideration. Do everything you can think of to make it simple and easy for you to stay consistent.

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Thanks, happydog :slight_smile: I have a handle on the basics, but I’m wondering if I need to go beyond that to get really lean. A lot of women seem to like carb cycling, but I wonder if it is necessary or if there is a simple way besides the AD to do it.

I know there are no magic answers, I was just wondering if DH had any ideas or tips. Thanks again!

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[quote]happydog48 wrote:
BTW, why is 35 some kind of “cut-off”?

18 to 34 is a very common advertising demographic group. At 35, you move from “young adult” to “adult” in many demographic profiles. The numbers are based on general trends.

For example, someone over 35 is more likely to buy a luxury car than someone who is 20. Lots of things about you change as you age and 35 is as good a cutoff as any, eh?[/quote]

Sorry Guys 35 to 40 yr olds actually are the “most Dangerous” because they think they now know everything. Trust you don’t I think you change alot around 45. I know I was one of you and "most others over that age if they are honest will say Wow! I really thought I knew everything then, sorry we were wrong. This Forum should be more for 45 instead of 35 sorry guys :slight_smile:

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[quote]Jillybop wrote:
So can I pick your brain here? :slight_smile:

DH, do you have any experience helping a woman get very lean? I’m curious your thoughts on diet, cardio and weights to go from ~19%bf down to ~15%. I’ve never been that lean, but I do have a fair amount of muscle mass on my frame.

I tried the AD last year, but mentally didn’t do well with the weekend carbups (I went off the deep end every weekend with unhealthy choices).

I’m trying to keep it simple, but I’m second-guessing myself a lot. Just wondering if you had any experience/input. Thanks!
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My 2 cents;

  I've had alot of success with carb and calorie cycling with my female clients and myself for that matter. I too have put people on the AD/CKD but they don't tend to do as well as with the cycling.

I’ve just about always coupled it with workouts that resemble Poliquin’s German body Comp. training/“lactate” training, pseudo-Crossfit style kind of workouts. They’re really tough, especially while taking in lower carbs, but you can’t argue with the results.

Every 2 weeks of hard work and lower carbs/calories I would bump them both up fairly significantly for 1 week before dropping them down again.

If they can tolerate fat loss stimulants we would use them in a cyclical manner also.

Don’t know if this helps but figured I’d mention it anyway.

Cheers,
Kaleb.

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[quote]Jillybop wrote:
Thanks, happydog :slight_smile: I have a handle on the basics, but I’m wondering if I need to go beyond that to get really lean. A lot of women seem to like carb cycling, but I wonder if it is necessary or if there is a simple way besides the AD to do it.

I know there are no magic answers, I was just wondering if DH had any ideas or tips. Thanks again!
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Berardi has his Get Shredded Diet here:

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1150209

I’m currently using the Velocity Diet to good result:

http://www.T-Nation.com/findArticle.do?article=05-009-diet

Good luck!