Crossfit vs Powerlifting

The entire point of posting this thread has been strangled, raped, and left for dead. I am going to start another called: “Sports are fucking stupid.”

The internet has turned into some sort of conduit for fitness enthusiast “hillbillies” to yell things from their porches at one another. Really, who gives a shit what other people do. I sure as shit don’t. Some people do triathalons. There is no way in hell I would ever do such a thing but I wouldn’t go around calling them pussies for not being able to bench press as much as me. Crossfit is fine.

It makes it so I don’t have to look at as many fat people in everyday life. Powerlifting would be fine without all the self-entitled stregnth experts that aren’t fucking strong. It doesn’t matter. One day you will be dead. At that point, no one will give a shit about anything you posted on the internet or your best fran time or your best deadlift.

Do whatever you want. Just don’t be fat and worthless and don’t be an overtly outspoken asshole about it.

thank you StormtheBeach…finally some sensability !

[quote] One day you will be dead. At that point, no one will give a shit about anything you posted on the internet or your best fran time or your best deadlift.
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if you died, I would look back at your old threads, watch your videos and shed a single tear from time to time. Just an FYI.

[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:
Do whatever you want. Just don’t be fat and worthless and don’t be an overtly outspoken asshole about it.[/quote]

Boom Roasted!

[quote]unstable wrote:

[quote] One day you will be dead. At that point, no one will give a shit about anything you posted on the internet or your best fran time or your best deadlift.
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if you died, I would look back at your old threads, watch your videos and shed a single tear from time to time. Just an FYI.[/quote]

Yea, I was talking about everyone else but me.

I have mixed emotions on CrossFit…

On one hand, as a former soldier, I see the merit for those who serve. I would LOVE to see a special forces unit roll into a regional CF comp and steal their lunch money.

On the other hand, I hate hearing that CF is “the best”. No, it’s not. Nothing’s the best. And NOTHING can be the best if you’re wearing Vibrams. This is fact.

What I’d love to see is CF gyms opening their doors to PL’ers/Strongmen - we use a lot of the same equipment - and we could all get along. I’d love to work on my conditioning, and I’m sure that in turn, many of them would love to work on their 1RM’s.

On a final note - any word on if all of the “Certs” that are given out will hold up if someone gets injured? I’m the furthest thing from a lawyer, but I wonder if there’s any threat of a massive lawsuit…

On the final final note - I really wanna see more of the chick at the very end of that video…

Sorry, STB… Rant over.

I agree with you and your comparison - I don’t know if Powerlifting will ever reach that kind of level. I wonder if Westside Barbell’s recent involvement with CF will help to pole vault our sport a little bit - perhaps we can ride the wave a bit and gain some new followers/popularity.

Too funny not to post,

http://daily.gay.com/lifestyle/2010/05/the-abs-whisperer-gets-crossfit.html

how the hell did you find that? ^

[quote]theuofh wrote:
Too funny not to post,

http://daily.gay.com/lifestyle/2010/05/the-abs-whisperer-gets-crossfit.html[/quote]

Thank you for this. I have not laughed this hard in a very long time. The comments are the best part.

I read the first paragraph and the last and I gotta say, this is comedic gold, “They were all, essentially, friendly Adonises.”

You can’t make shit like this up. I didn’t know wether I should shit or wind my watch. I was speechless on first pass.

meh, we live in a world full of fat, lazy, unhealthy people, anything that gets even a small percentage of them off their ass and into the gym lifting weights is all good with me.

So what if they cant squat 3 times their bodyweight, some people have no interest in doing so.

I did a Crossfit session last weekend at a high profile gym. It’s a serious conditioning workout and doesn’ aim to improve absolute strength, so criticizing the program for not focusing on that element is just silly and stating the obvious.

Most gyms–so I’ve heard–tend to have a coach (Oly, S&C, etc) come in once or twice a week and teach fundamentals of specific lifts or training modalities. It’s not like people are attempting to do 15 snatches with poor form. Even the instructors are typically well versed (they are supposed to be, at least) in the Oly lifts they include as part of the WODs or group sessions.

It’s a great conditioning tool and probably some of the best lactate training you can get. That’s it, but that’s not a reason to bash it, either. Just another tool in the tool box, the same way as athletes have borrowed training concepts from other sports (or even nutritional strategies).

People need to stop being one-dimensional. And as for it being a “cult,” who cares? It’s a healthy habit (working out) that people are turning into a game. That’s what this country needs. Maybe some more level headed trainers who know how to create programs, but it’s a good system for what it was designed for.

Shouldn’t worry about whether the sport you do is popular. Lets face it, if you are doing a sport for the money you are not in it for the right reasons. Do it because you love it.

Also never forget: With popularity comes a higher douchebag factor. There are great people in Crossfit but a huge # of douchebags as well.

I am a strongman competitor myself, and in my area(Alberta) it is not really a huge sport as of yet. Because of this, there is a great (small) community with no douchebags at all. Everybody is helping each other out, and money or publicity have absolutely nothing to do with it. I started training in this parking lot of a mini storage place where this guy keeps his strongman equipment. I hadn’t even met the guy yet and I had access to a key and all his shit for free. If a sport is popular and commercialized a situation like this would never exist.

But I do have to say as well that even though popularity brings douchebags it also seems to bring some pretty hot girls in crossfits case. That’s something that powerlifting is definitely lacking in, and strongman has almost none of. That’s the only valid + IMO.

[quote]AndrewBolinger wrote:
But I do have to say as well that even though popularity brings douchebags it also seems to bring some pretty hot girls in crossfits case. That’s something that powerlifting is definitely lacking in, and strongman has almost none of. That’s the only valid + IMO.[/quote]

Even though crossfit is more popular and yes there is a large number of d-bags that do that, I would argue that powerlifting has a higher ratio of d-bags. Now, the douchery is completely different in both sports. Crossfit is much more, “I am the fittest” while powerlifting has the “I am the most entitled for no reason and I am a strength expert.” Then that can be broken down even further to “I am the most RAW lifter, making me the strongest” or “That world world record squat looked high to me… from the video on the internet.”

In my experience, when good coaching is in place, crossfit is fine. That is definitely a rare occasion. All of the powerlifters that I have met in real life have been very helpful. All of the “powerlifters” that are critical on the internet or go on these weird entitled power trips in real life need to be put in a big hole and burned for fuel. They ruin the sport.

Strongman on the other hand seems like a pretty good group of people. There is almost no shit talking online and every one I have met/trained with that competes is very humble, helpful, and knowledgeable.

Honestly, I don’t give a fuck about what anyone else but me does. I just can’t stand fitness enthusiasts and self-proclaimed strength experts. People need to spend less time bitching and more time actually getting better at whatever they claim to be awesome at on the internet.

[quote]RussaldoStrong wrote:
Crossfit is a fitness fad, dont worry, it will be dead soon. With the amount of injuries and weak human beings (bunny rabbits, cardio all day, no MFD) soon people will realize that there is more to fitness than this one section of glorified circuit training.

I think crossfit has its place, but its on the way out.[/quote]

thread hijack

is that a pic of you at chip’s gym???

[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:

[quote]AndrewBolinger wrote:
But I do have to say as well that even though popularity brings douchebags it also seems to bring some pretty hot girls in crossfits case. That’s something that powerlifting is definitely lacking in, and strongman has almost none of. That’s the only valid + IMO.[/quote]

Even though crossfit is more popular and yes there is a large number of d-bags that do that, I would argue that powerlifting has a higher ratio of d-bags. Now, the douchery is completely different in both sports. Crossfit is much more, “I am the fittest” while powerlifting has the “I am the most entitled for no reason and I am a strength expert.” Then that can be broken down even further to “I am the most RAW lifter, making me the strongest” or “That world world record squat looked high to me… from the video on the internet.”

In my experience, when good coaching is in place, crossfit is fine. That is definitely a rare occasion. All of the powerlifters that I have met in real life have been very helpful. All of the “powerlifters” that are critical on the internet or go on these weird entitled power trips in real life need to be put in a big hole and burned for fuel. They ruin the sport.

Strongman on the other hand seems like a pretty good group of people. There is almost no shit talking online and every one I have met/trained with that competes is very humble, helpful, and knowledgeable.

Honestly, I don’t give a fuck about what anyone else but me does. I just can’t stand fitness enthusiasts and self-proclaimed strength experts. People need to spend less time bitching and more time actually getting better at whatever they claim to be awesome at on the internet.[/quote]

I suppose I can agree that powerlifting has a fair ratio of douchebags although I suppose it is hard to really know the exact number. They usually seem to be the loudest and most visible. Maybe it comes down to people not respecting each others sports and/or methods. Powerlifting is so divided into sects that there is a lot of cross-bantering between sects. I usually find that powerlifters seem a little brash from outside their group (hence getting kicked out of gyms all the time), but once you train with them they become quite nice. I suppose it is the definition of a clique.

Crossfit is quite unified it seems, but as a strength athlete you can usually catch a lot of flak from the worst of them.

Ultimately it doesn’t really matter as the values denoting great physical achievement are all arbitrary. Should come down to individual preference.

Here’s a somewhat funny story: I was competing in a strongman competition sometime last summer, and one of the spectators was this powerlifter. He decided to initiate a conversation with me by straight out saying “I am the strongest man in Canada.” These were literally the first words spoken to me. Maybe it was true (I think he has a top 20 all time 308 squat), but jeez those are some strange social skills.

[quote]theuofh wrote:
In the name of a good troll job, I’ll attempt a pictorial summary of crossfit.

This is Coach Greg Glassman, referred to as “Couch” by some. He is the founder of Crossfit and an ex gymnast, who supposedly sustained a nasty neck injury and has let himself go to shit.[/quote]

Beam? I thought you meant Jim Beam not the balance beam.

[quote]danjo228 wrote:
As always, Storm the Beach just says it like it is. Say what you want about Cross Fit, they do have their shit together. It may be a fad, but I don’t see it on its way out. I don’t think it’s close to peaking even.
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In the Cleveland area crossfit is still growing like crazy.