“Oh, and one more thing: Prepare the space ship and Kool-Aid immediately. Shit’s about to get crazy.”
This is going to be interesting. There are several CF affiliates in my area, and I’ve had a few individuals come into my gym with some training horror stories.
One trainee claimed that the affiliate was extremely sold on the CF WoD, so much that they were convinced that EVERYONE should be doing 115lb power cleans for 15 reps combined with whatever else they did that day. That’s probably fine for people with plenty of experience, but they were trying to force this on newer trainees that only had a rough understanding of O-style lifts. From my anecdotal second-hand experience, injuries were common and most trainees were completely in the dark about the methods and reasons behind what they were doing.
It’s not surprising that Rip and all these others have left CF, they’ve turned into what they sought out to separate themselves from: big-box, one-size-fits-all training. There are some CF affiliates out there that know what’s going on, hell one affiliate near me has Shane Hamman permanently on staff. But for the other 95% of affiliates, they’ve forgotten or never learned about addressing the individual’s needs, which is the first, last, and most important aspect of training.
Well Castro is the director of training and has no training background outside of CF. He shat on some extremely bright and experienced trainers in Robb Wolf and Everett.
Everett was talking about faulty CF Oly lifting dogma, and he got called out by HQ staff.I believe Everett also holds the record for split snatch of any Crossfitter in competition, as well as he trains collegiate athletes, so I believe he has an idea how to coach and perform the Oly lifts.
Robb Wolf was called out for saying that the Zone may not be the best diet for an athlete, citing CF competitors he trained/worked on nutrition with who increased their performances by going AWAY from tiny portions weighed and measured. One person I believe was eating like 3 times how much food she would have been prescribed by the zone, and increased her performance and physique. Who’d a thought food + training = performance. Robb Wolf actually has his head on straight when it comes to nutrition, he was the only saving grace for anyone trying to learn about nutrition in CF, as he did not mindlessly toe the Zone line.
What makes this even more cosmically ironic is that this “black box summit: for trainers by trainers” was to be an open forum for discussion about training. What it turned into was CF HQ coming down hard on any speaker who said anything that deviated even slightly from establish doctrine.
[quote]Therizza wrote:
Everett was talking about faulty CF Oly lifting dogma, and he got called out by HQ staff.I believe Everett also holds the record for split snatch of any Crossfitter in competition, as well as he trains collegiate athletes, so I believe he has an idea how to coach and perform the Oly lifts.
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I think you may be confusing Josh and Greg Everett. Josh is the head strength and conditioning coach at UC Riverside and Greg Everett opened his own gym maybe a year ago and is a competitive olympic lifter. He also publishes the Performance Menu.
[quote]theuofh wrote:
Therizza wrote:
Everett was talking about faulty CF Oly lifting dogma, and he got called out by HQ staff.I believe Everett also holds the record for split snatch of any Crossfitter in competition, as well as he trains collegiate athletes, so I believe he has an idea how to coach and perform the Oly lifts.
I think you may be confusing Josh and Greg Everett. Josh is the head strength and conditioning coach at UC Riverside and Greg Everett opened his own gym maybe a year ago and is a competitive olympic lifter. He also publishes the Performance Menu.
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Crossfit HQ has been a fascist dictatorship for a long time now. Just try and post anything derogatory on their forum against Crossfit and prepare to be censored and banned.
I have to confess until this thread I really had thought Crossfit and the WOD programs were simply a cover for a “soft porn” site for looking at cute little girlies and sissy boys (depending on your s-preference) exercising… now that I know it’s an actual recognized (by some, by many) training protocol I am rather disappointed.
bitchsmack everette
run like a little girl (1 mile using sprint interval pace)
5 kipping pullups
5 hair drags for distance
3 losses of dignity for time[/quote]
Awesome.
Although you forgot, “Prance like a poodle…” although you did have run like a little girl, so that’s ok.[/quote]
I agree with your sentiments. Training for boxing is far superior to Crossfit.
There is like a 500 some page thread on another forum called the “couch thread”, its pretty entertaining but I won’t link to it here. Anyway, I heard there was some bad blood between Rippetoe and Castro and this is why:
I have to confess until this thread I really had thought Crossfit and the WOD programs were simply a cover for a “soft porn” site for looking at cute little girlies and sissy boys (depending on your s-preference) exercising… now that I know it’s an actual recognized (by some, by many) training protocol I am rather disappointed.[/quote]
When I read this, I thought about LOLing.
Then, things like Zumba, Hot Yoga and Pilates and how all those trainers make more money from selling crap than I do from actually training (successfull) athletes found their way into my mind.
I have been following this whole Crossfit phenomenon for several years now. I was trained in competitive artistic gymnastics for many years and also a Chinese sport known as Wushu. I initially thought Crossfit would assist my training. Although I was very young years ago, I wasn’t that stupid. Many of the “handstand” techniques they taught me from their “Certified Gymnastics trainers” didn’t know a single thing about gymnastics. Worst yet is how aggressive they are when questioned about their “qualifications” to teach technical skills. Btw, a handstand is a technical skill that needs proper training. When people are involved in something seemingly special, they will defend it to no end. As long as ignorance exists, so will Crossfit, as well as all these other exercise fads (anyone seen that new Ab machine infomercial, geeez…)