Weeks 13-14 Novladex 40mg ED
Week 15 Novladex 20mg ED
3 months off continuing to bulk and attempting to keep as much gains as poss
Then I plan on trying a anavar only cycle at 40mg ED for 6 weeks to cut
Also I have enough oral winstrol to run 50mg ED for 3 weeks left over, is it worth including this into any of the two cycles anywhere just to use it up?
My 2 cents Electric: I havn’t even begin research into HGH yet. I’m saving that as an Ace in the whole. Why bring out the big guns just yet? Also I havn’t used an AI during cycle so I can’t comment on that. I really don’t see the point in one unless you are a competitive Bodybuilder or your experiencing Estrogenic issues like severe bloat or nipple tenderness. Neither of which i experienced. I personally would run this:
Weeks 1-3 Anabol - 50mgs ED
Weeks 1-10 sustanon250 250mg Mon/Tue/Thu/Sat to get 1 full gram/week. or divide 4cc’s into 3 shotes M/W/F
weeks 8-10 winstrol 50 mg ED
*Save the HGH for a few years down the road
Like I said I never used an AI during cycle but this sounds fine if you want.
Weeks 1-10 Arimidex - 0.25mg ED
Weeks 11-12 Arimidex 0.25 mg EOD
*add one more week of Nolva
Weeks 13-14 Novladex 40mg ED
Week 15-16 Novladex 20mg ED
I like the way it looks. You are wise to include the Adex whe using a gram of test a week. I have several suggestions though, besides for switching out the sust lol;)
Although I have some experience with peptides I have never ran HGH. But I think that HGH is best when used for longer than 5 weeks. IMO it would be more cost effective and perhaps more effective overall to run IGF either during cycle or as part of PCT. If money is not an issue then do both.
Also I personally like my kickstarts to be at least 4 weeks, usually 6 weeks. As long as you are not using more orals after it I think 6 weeks would be fine. However if you just want something to hold you until the test kicks in then 3 weeks is fine.
I agree with pain, in that you wont get much out of 5 weeks at such a low dose of HGH. I have run HGH @ 6iu’s a day for 60 days, and 8 iu’s for the next 60. Gains were very slow coming(compared to AAS), I didn’t start seeing real gains till four weeks in. IMO that would be a waste of money, and or gear. If I were you I would either extend your use, or save it for next go around.
Maybe you could sell or trade the HGH for another compound of ample quantity. I’m just going from what I’ve experienced personally, friends experiences, and what I have read. You could also pm a more knowledgeable vet if your not having any luck here. Take care and good luck.
if i ever chose to do HGH it would be for a minimum of 6 months to a year and stacked the whole time with test. 100 IU is not enough IMO, so just sell it or trade it for something useful.
the first cycle is fine the way it is laid out. sustanon is not bad at all…actually it is a really good choice, as long as you inject EOD or ED. if you are not prepared to do that, then choose a single ester.
the jumpstart is fine, it doesn’t really need to be longer, since sust has prop and phenyl prop in it (totalling 90 mg of the 250)you are already introducing fast acting gear from day 1. if you have 3 weeks of winstrol you can tack it on at the end of your cycle before PCT or simply save it for your “cutter”.
no problem with the AI protocol.
3 weeks of nolva may be light…maybe 4-5 is a better idea…but everyone recovers differently (clomid works much quicker and much better than nolva for me personally). use your previous cylce experience to figure out how you recover best.
Weeks 13-14 Novladex 40mg ED
Week 15 Novladex 20mg ED
3 months off continuing to bulk and attempting to keep as much gains as poss
Then I plan on trying a anavar only cycle at 40mg ED for 6 weeks to cut
Also I have enough oral winstrol to run 50mg ED for 3 weeks left over, is it worth including this into any of the two cycles anywhere just to use it up?
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At your size I would cut the sust down to 500mgs/week. 2 shots per week. 1 gram is a lot IMO.
Cut the hgh. I would run the anabol for longer than 3 weeks. Finish with just the winny or var, not both. I would also run the sust for 12-15 weeks, not 10.
That’s just me though! Good luck, let us know what you go with and how it turns out.
Correct me if Im wrong, but from what I’ve read it isnt a “good idea” to only shoot sus 2x/week. This is bc of the 2 shorter esters, IMO the way you have it laid out should be ok. It seems to be the “norm”, Im sure youll be fine.
PS. If HGH prices in the UK are anything like they are here(TX), you could probably get enough cash to buy like four or five 10ml bottles of test. That is if you decided to part ways with them.
[quote]Bellas Daddy wrote:
Correct me if Im wrong, but from what I’ve read it isnt a “good idea” to only shoot sus 2x/week. This is bc of the 2 shorter esters, IMO the way you have it laid out should be ok. It seems to be the “norm”, Im sure youll be fine.
PS. If HGH prices in the UK are anything like they are here(TX), you could probably get enough cash to buy like four or five 10ml bottles of test. That is if you decided to part ways with them.[/quote]
I think what he meant was to cut down the overal mg to 500 mg a week, not only 2 shots per week. .7cc EOD of product that is 250mg/mml will give you over 600mg per week as compared to 250mg EOD @ 875mg/wk. If the products comes in amps this is a bit harder, but can still be done obviously.
[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
Bellas Daddy wrote:
Correct me if Im wrong, but from what I’ve read it isnt a “good idea” to only shoot sus 2x/week. This is bc of the 2 shorter esters, IMO the way you have it laid out should be ok. It seems to be the “norm”, Im sure youll be fine.
PS. If HGH prices in the UK are anything like they are here(TX), you could probably get enough cash to buy like four or five 10ml bottles of test. That is if you decided to part ways with them.
I think what he meant was to cut down the overal mg to 500 mg a week, not only 2 shots per week. .7cc EOD of product that is 250mg/mml will give you over 600mg per week as compared to 250mg EOD @ 875mg/wk. If the products comes in amps this is a bit harder, but can still be done obviously.
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Ok that makes sense , I guess I got confused when he said two shots a week. Thanks