posted this on the over 35 board but only got one response so reposting here.
Jeez - I just did the math on this stuff.
Each iu is $11!
What do you guys think?
If youre asking whether or not 2 iu of GH per day will compare to the anabolic effects of a well run test/deca cycle than you are correct. 2iu of hGH is not the protocol to use for mass building. Read more about the drug. There is more than one thread with good information on the subject.
After doing the math I seem to have answered my own question. I’m just trying get some feedback from others who’ve run 2iu/day for 2 mos. At the current price HGH seems pointless.
You are paying way to much. I for one love hgh but Im taking 4-8 IU eod. Im 38.
I’m sure it’s cheaper out there somewhere.
[quote]saveski wrote:
I’m sure it’s cheaper out there somewhere but this is thru a 'script and it’s Omnitrope so I know it’s the real deal.[/quote]
Look up the HGH experiment.
Shoot the HGH intramuscularly or intravenously
Use in a dosing pattern that mimics the bodies natural release during puberty.
You can find the exact protocol through BBB, but it is basically shooting 6-10iu Every third day or so. I bet you will get much better results, especially using pharm made stuff.
The HGH powder in the vial, BEFORE rehydrating is stable at room temperature. It is after you add the water that it needs refrigeration or after 8 hours it will begin to deteriorate.
I am seriously seeing my abs and some vascularity after using it for 4+ weeks.
BamaGuy - how much GH are you doing a day?
The 2 times I’ve had HGH shipped to me it was packed on ice in the UNdiluted form.
I did all the math and 1iu of my stuff equates to .27mg so I’m doing .54mg a day.
[quote]caladin wrote:
You are paying way to much. I for one love hgh but Im taking 4-8 IU eod. Im 38.[/quote]
Are you seeing any negitive effects? How’s your sex drive/function.
How long have you been doing that much? Any changes in your face?
Thanks
B0nzz
I know that usually everyone refers to HGH in IUs but is everyone talking about the same amounts? With my Omnitrope I believe .1 mL = 1 IU = .27mg.
[quote]saveski wrote:
I know that usually everyone refers to HGH in IUs but is everyone talking about the same amounts? With my Omnitrope I believe .1 mL = 1 IU = .27mg.[/quote]
Yes.
10 IUs of GH is 10 IUs regardless of the concentration.
Why don’t you try out GHRH? The non-long-acting CJC analog is cheaper, can be used subQ and is more stable (keep it frozen if needed). I’m not sure if it can do what IV GH at high doses would do, but I have been impressed with it.
[quote]B0nzz wrote:
caladin wrote:
You are paying way to much. I for one love hgh but Im taking 4-8 IU eod. Im 38.
Are you seeing any negitive effects? How’s your sex drive/function.
How long have you been doing that much? Any changes in your face?
Thanks
B0nzz[/quote]
Some numbing in my hands and feet from time to time. My sex drive is wacky right now. Im on PCT… came off a 20week cycle. I can attest that it still all works since I gave it a test run last night ;P. This will be my first month on it. My face looks the same. No moon, or bone changes in forehead or jaw. Im only using 6 Iu right now.
Saveski I am terrible with calculating the amounts, I just do what my medical advisor instructed (and these instructions match a protocol on a PDF on a website by another MD) I draw the insulin syringe to the first 10 mark (about an eighth of an inch tiny amount) and inject under the skin (stomach area) five times a week. I have been doing it for six weeks now. I am starting to see vascularity in my shoulders and arms.
[quote]caladin wrote:
B0nzz wrote:
caladin wrote:
You are paying way to much. I for one love hgh but Im taking 4-8 IU eod. Im 38.
Are you seeing any negitive effects? How’s your sex drive/function.
How long have you been doing that much? Any changes in your face?
Thanks
B0nzz
Some numbing in my hands and feet from time to time. My sex drive is wacky right now. Im on PCT… came off a 20week cycle. I can attest that it still all works since I gave it a test run last night ;P. This will be my first month on it. My face looks the same. No moon, or bone changes in forehead or jaw. Im only using 6 Iu right now. [/quote]
WOW. I was doing 3IU’s m/w/f and my knees and elbows killed. For some reason my right wrist killed as well. I dropped down to 2IU’s for the same days and all pain left except my knees. 3IU’s gave one hell of a pump at the gym too!!! I did notice if I didn’t get close to a gallon of water a day my joints hurt worse. It seems backwards but that’s what I felt
So I am back down to 1IU Daily to see what happens. I am still on gear (Test enth, tren and tapering off Dec) and all I can say is HOLY SHIT! I dropped all my gear down and the GH magnified everything. I also started a ECA stack and my pants are getting loose daily.
I swear my joints would explode if i was doing 6IU’s
Keep us updated!!
B0nzz
I think 11 dollars per IU is a okay price to pay, for legit GH from the pharmacy. Branded GH such as Humatrope etc can cost 20 bucks per IU.
You can not compare anabolic steroid to HGH. apple to oranges.
I would have dropped deca , keep test at 200 per week. And put the money towards HGH. Deca is not a HRT hormone, not that kind to cardiovascular system (compared to test).
[quote]mephistopheles wrote:
I think 11 dollars per IU is a okay price to pay, for legit GH from the pharmacy. Branded GH such as Humatrope etc can cost 20 bucks per IU.
You can not compare anabolic steroid to HGH. apple to oranges.
I would have dropped deca , keep test at 200 per week. And put the money towards HGH. Deca is not a HRT hormone, not that kind to cardiovascular system (compared to test). [/quote]
I agree, i just wanted to use the last 300mg. I hate leaving bottles wiht a little around. Do you not belive in tapering?? Should I just hit the reast and call it a good day??
B0nzz
My endocrine system is fairly robust. So I don’t taper. Tapering is good for the mood, and easier to live with, but if you drag is on too much, then you are just delaying your recovery by suppressing your HPTA for longer. Last time tapered on a test only cycle, using the stasis taper method. as soon as my test was down to 100mg per week (supposedly HRT level). I felt lethargic, fatigue, and my lower extremities start to feel sore/tired (as if I walked for a whole day). THen I didn’t really start to recover until I actually tapered down to zero. SO I might as well gone cold turkey instead.
For me, I would like to use short ester / orals for maximum of 6 weeks, without HCG (a hassle that i don’t need). This simplifies things a lot. 25 mg of proviron for the first week off AAS, it will help the mood, energy and libido. I use a regular nolva PCT. You can overlap HGH from the last 2 weeks of your cycle until you finish a kit.
[quote]mephistopheles wrote:
My endocrine system is fairly robust. So I don’t taper. Tapering is good for the mood, and easier to live with, but if you drag is on too much, then you are just delaying your recovery by suppressing your HPTA for longer. Last time tapered on a test only cycle, using the stasis taper method. as soon as my test was down to 100mg per week (supposedly HRT level). I felt lethargic, fatigue, and my lower extremities start to feel sore/tired (as if I walked for a whole day). THen I didn’t really start to recover until I actually tapered down to zero. SO I might as well gone cold turkey instead.
For me, I would like to use short ester / orals for maximum of 6 weeks, without HCG (a hassle that i don’t need). This simplifies things a lot. 25 mg of proviron for the first week off AAS, it will help the mood, energy and libido. I use a regular nolva PCT. You can overlap HGH from the last 2 weeks of your cycle until you finish a kit. [/quote]
Cool, thanks. Ill sick the last of deca this week. I am saying on cycle for a little longer. I.m going to try a mast/test blend
Fo a few weeks to see how it feels then clean my act up and jump on pct.
Thanks for the input.
B0nzz