[quote]kyre wrote:
When i cut i will lose much of the hard earned muscle and look deflated[/quote]
Then you dont know how to cut m8
[quote]kenny-mccormick wrote:
[quote]kyre wrote:
When i cut i will lose much of the hard earned muscle and look deflated[/quote]
Then you dont know how to cut m8[/quote]
Brb having 18 inches guns and 8% bf naturally
[quote]kyre wrote:
[quote]kenny-mccormick wrote:
[quote]kyre wrote:
When i cut i will lose much of the hard earned muscle and look deflated[/quote]
Then you dont know how to cut m8[/quote]
Brb having 18 inches guns and 8% bf naturally[/quote]
You said earlier you’re just trying to reach your natty limit faster. Your natty limit will be much smaller than 18 inch arms at 8% bf.
And Kenny’s absolutely right. You don’t have to lose muscle and look deflated when you cut, natural or not. You just have to do it right.
Experts please shed some light on the possibility of damaging hpta forever due to light usage of aas
Just let this thread die so the troll will go away.
Guys you gotta help me
I am unexperienced so i sound funny and look like a troll but in real i really need you guys who are expert in their field
Please bear with me and help me out like your little brother
And i swear i would try to be more sensible in my replies
We gave you all the advice you need. Take ot or go some where else
Reed i did relly took your advise seriously ,I was about to start my stated cycle and when i read your comment that the possible effects could last 10X ,i stopped and thought about it brah
So thanks reed
Maybe I should train for 2-3 years and it would be more clear that how much i want this lifestyle
Because i am myself confused and the main thing is I am dependant on my parents ,so if one fine day they say stop I will have to stop and then I will have no where to go
So you are right my friend
I would like to thanks everyone who replied and took the pain to tolerate a noob
Thanks !
[quote]kyre wrote:
Experts please shed some light on the possibility of damaging hpta forever due to light usage of aas[/quote]
You’re not ready for this if you have to ask.
To get back to your original post: I would say that you’re too young in real years and in training years.
Physiologically and psychologically speaking you haven’t matured yet. Your HPTA should still be running fantastically and you should be able to get a lot more out of that without unnecessary and potentially harmful “enhancements”.
You don’t have the training experience yet to know how you respond to different programs and training modalities. You probably haven’t dealt with injuries much. You don’t know how to cut properly; you lose a lot of muscle as you admitted yourself. You probably haven’t much experience in how to handle plateaus (my guess is you’re running out of beginner gains and your solution for that is the syringe)
What you should do is get bloodwork done so you know where you sit HPTA-wise and have a benchmark for the rest of your life (check the stickies to see what to test for).
I would suggest that you train natty for at least another two years while getting acquainted with a few other programs (like 5-3-1, CT’s layering system and something that includes dynamic work). Btw. CT just mentioned in his crossfit article that he looked and felt better than ever with a combination of crossfit and strength training so maybe that can give you some ideas as well.
Also see what you need to do to cut properly. A little less bodyfat should also help the current efficiency of your hormonal output.
There’s a lot you can do now to get ready and reap the benefits of your first cycles a few years from now in a more potent, responsive and safer way. You would also be in a better position to keep those gains, especially if you would need to dial back on the training because of other future commitments.
You have actually made very good progress for 1 year of training. Just keep it up, you’ll get where you want to be fast with more experience and dedication.
Do this for another year and then weigh the pros and cons of starting a cycle.
[quote]grippit wrote:
[quote]kyre wrote:
Experts please shed some light on the possibility of damaging hpta forever due to light usage of aas[/quote]
You’re not ready for this if you have to ask.
To get back to your original post: I would say that you’re too young in real years and in training years.
Physiologically and psychologically speaking you haven’t matured yet. Your HPTA should still be running fantastically and you should be able to get a lot more out of that without unnecessary and potentially harmful “enhancements”.
You don’t have the training experience yet to know how you respond to different programs and training modalities. You probably haven’t dealt with injuries much. You don’t know how to cut properly; you lose a lot of muscle as you admitted yourself. You probably haven’t much experience in how to handle plateaus (my guess is you’re running out of beginner gains and your solution for that is the syringe)
What you should do is get bloodwork done so you know where you sit HPTA-wise and have a benchmark for the rest of your life (check the stickies to see what to test for).
I would suggest that you train natty for at least another two years while getting acquainted with a few other programs (like 5-3-1, CT’s layering system and something that includes dynamic work). Btw. CT just mentioned in his crossfit article that he looked and felt better than ever with a combination of crossfit and strength training so maybe that can give you some ideas as well.
Also see what you need to do to cut properly. A little less bodyfat should also help the current efficiency of your hormonal output.
There’s a lot you can do now to get ready and reap the benefits of your first cycles a few years from now in a more potent, responsive and safer way. You would also be in a better position to keep those gains, especially if you would need to dial back on the training because of other future commitments.
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Awesome first class advise, you are right I am seeking the syringe as beginners gains are getting slower and want a solution
You made everything very clear,your one message removed all my queries
I will obey you
Thankful forever
[quote]kyre wrote:
[quote]kenny-mccormick wrote:
[quote]kyre wrote:
When i cut i will lose much of the hard earned muscle and look deflated[/quote]
Then you dont know how to cut m8[/quote]
Brb having 18 inches guns and 8% bf naturally[/quote]
8% bf is a load of shit your photo shows your fat. this thread i mean come on you say your dedicated then say only for 5 years, you contradict yourself so much honestly mate this is an emotional roller coaster and i feel like i need a lie down
[quote]kenny-mccormick wrote:
[quote]kyre wrote:
[quote]kenny-mccormick wrote:
[quote]kyre wrote:
When i cut i will lose much of the hard earned muscle and look deflated[/quote]
Then you dont know how to cut m8[/quote]
Brb having 18 inches guns and 8% bf naturally[/quote]
8% bf is a load of shit your photo shows your fat. this thread i mean come on you say your dedicated then say only for 5 years, you contradict yourself so much honestly mate this is an emotional roller coaster and i feel like i need a lie down[/quote]
you misunderstood what he was saying lol…