Well that’s re-assuring.
Start a new thread for the rest and I’ll do my best to respond thoughtfully.
Back on-topic. I’ll go ahead and disclose that my vaccine side effects have been no COVID at all for me, even though I’ve been in close contact with several people both jabbed and unjabbed who’ve had it in the last month.
We just need to find a sample of SARS, expose ourselves to it, then go out to a “covid party” THEN get vaccinated
There’s a 20-40% chance we will die, but the pay-off is NEVER getting covid… ever…
Are you in?
Had me a Red Ryder BB gun as well. Totally awesome… unless you were a bird in my backyard. I always felt guilty after popping birds.
Today, in Australia you can’t buy one from a toy store anymore, or get BB’s from the corner store. You need a license, permit to acquire, gun safe. You can’t let an unlicensed friend shoot it, or even shoot it in your backyard.
for a BB gun? it’s not even technically a firearm.
You know that, and I know that. That’s how it used to be over here, when I was young. But the Australian legislators and the police say different. Reality doesn’t matter, the history and collective living memory doesn’t matter. Over here if you made an object that looks like a gun from wood, or cast resin you would be committing a serious crime. It doesn’t matter that it doesn’t actually work, and is not a real firearm.
Gel blasters are classed as firearms. Even some types of Nerf guns(that can fire gel balls) should under the legislation, be stamped with a serial number and registered.
The Australian people can rest easy knowing they are safe from welts, stings and other ouchies delivered by BB guns.
We can rest assured knowing certain nerf guns are registered firearms.
Clearly an automatic nerf gun, an airsoft gun or a gel blaster is as dangerous as an AK-47
Surely you agree? Need to stay logical and grounded my dude!
Interesting to note New Zelands gun laws are WAY more lax.
Seriously… just like cigarettes, in Australia guns have become so stigmatised. We’ve gone from being a society wherein hunting was a normal past time to a society wherein most people haven’t shot a gun in their lifetime
I can understand why one would want to stigmatise smoking… but shooting for sport or hunting? Give me a break…
Based on their statements, if Trump had won the election, what do you think their stances would be now? It was close, after all.
And you think Trump with his magic wand could approve the vaccines? Do you think he was sitting in the basement of the white house with his “My First Chemistry Set” cooking up the vaccine, or was it done by scientists. The statement, if you are taking it verbatim makes no sense. Trump couldn’t “approve” vaccines. Scientists do that, not politicians.
They said what they said. The kick in the head is, you know they said this shit. Every leftist needing attention was saying this same thing. And if Trump had won, they’d probably be “anti-vaxers”, GASP!
Who do you think was working on the vaccines? Trump? Really? Are you trying to convince me that people were confused as to who was making these vaccines? Did you really think Trump was in the basement with bleach and Formula 409 making vaccines in his spare time? Or was it perhaps scientists and always scientists who were making it? Trump cleared the way for the making of vaccines, he didn’t make them. He didn’t cook up a witch’s brew in the basement and distribute it to Pfizer and Moderna.
It would be easier just to admit you were wrong than try these lame obfuscations. Just “My bad, I guess they did say that” would be fine. Or you can provide your own counter examples where they were grateful for a vaccine being developed so quickly and that being a good thing.
It’s a strage hill to die on particularly since you already knew the left were condeming this vaccine from the get go. Mocking Trump for saying it would be done, then when it was done, mocking the quality and efficacy, and saying they wouldn’t take anything made under Trump.
To get vaccinated. Most of the quotes shared here from them that indicated skepticism were months before we had reached the point where we knew we actually had real vaccines on track for approval. Of course this is just speculation, but at the end of the day, the vaccines were developed entirely under Trump’s presidency, and both Biden and Harris have gotten vaccinated and advocated for this. You can also find quotes from last year of Biden giving credit to the Warp Speed thing as a success, and giving some level of credit to Trump specifically.
Well, I guess we will never know, but I am rightly skeptical simply based on the measure of their hatred.
I have to admit, this is pretty terrifying to read. Not sure if this is the best thread for this or not.
COVID-19: Democratic Voters Support Harsh Measures Against Unvaccinated - Rasmussen Reports®
Cliffnotes
– Fifty-eight percent (58%) of voters would oppose a proposal for federal or state governments to fine Americans who choose not to get a COVID-19 vaccine. However, 55% of Democratic voters would support such a proposal, compared to just 19% of Republicans and 25% of unaffiliated voters.
– Fifty-nine percent (59%) of Democratic voters would favor a government policy requiring that citizens remain confined to their homes at all times, except for emergencies, if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine. Such a proposal is opposed by 61% of all likely voters, including 79% of Republicans and 71% of unaffiliated voters.
– Nearly half (48%) of Democratic voters think federal and state governments should be able to fine or imprison individuals who publicly question the efficacy of the existing COVID-19 vaccines on social media, television, radio, or in online or digital publications. Only 27% of all voters – including just 14% of Republicans and 18% of unaffiliated voters – favor criminal punishment of vaccine critics.
– Forty-five percent (45%) of Democrats would favor governments requiring citizens to temporarily live in designated facilities or locations if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine. Such a policy would be opposed by a strong majority (71%) of all voters, with 78% of Republicans and 64% of unaffiliated voters saying they would Strongly Oppose putting the unvaccinated in “designated facilities.”
– While about two-thirds (66%) of likely voters would be against governments using digital devices to track unvaccinated people to ensure that they are quarantined or socially distancing from others, 47% of Democrats favor a government tracking program for those who won’t get the COVID-19 vaccine.
Full details available in the link if you want to check for accuracy/demographics.
We need to get over this bullshit and come together as a country.
Regardless of one’s feelings on the vaccine - an intrusion like this into one’s personal life by the government should not be favored by anybody. It would set an extremely dangerous precedent.
This is the type of polarization and caste-ing that led to the holocaust.
Obligatory disclaimer: I do not believe this is the same as the holocaust, but circumstantially this type of social engineering is what happened before the proverbial ‘first shot’ was fired.
I think it is a both sides are to blame thing. One side for sowing distrust in the vaccine, and one side for the mandates. It seems both sides are happy with polarization, which is disappointing.
The message that is lost here is that most people against the vaccines aren’t necessarily against being vaccinated. It is that many of them are against the mandates… A significant similarity and ‘middle ground’ that could be agreed upon by most, but is lost in the arguments of the crazies.
I will back the right as I’m knowingly biased; what I don’t understand is how standing up to federal overreach is ever viewed as a bad thing here. While I don’t agree with the whole ‘vaccines kill people’ narrative some of the far right spew, I think anyone supportive of government overreach is a fucking tool and needs to find a new country to call home.
Its like the Vaccinated Religion doesn’t see that I’m standing up for their rights too. If Trump was ordering these mandates, I’d still be standing up against govt overreach.
For what?
Is it the conservatives fault that a majority of Democrats openly support totalitarianism under the pretense of public health?
Isn’t polarization a good thing when totalitarians advance their cynical power grabs under the pretense of public health?
I think it is, because we have a clear alternative to these awful policies.
I agree, and I am against federal / state mandates.
No, it is that right wing and right wing media sows distrust of vaccines, making the polarization worse. If both sides from the start were in support of vaccines, I doubt we would have the polarization on the topic.
I think you are dramatically overestimating the importance most people place on politicians and their rhetoric.
There was ALWAYS a set of people who weren’t going to get a jab no matter what.
I for one welcome anytime a Democrat says what they mean in clear terms.
More right wing media. At one point in time, I don’t believe we would have had the % of people we do now hesitant to take the vaccine.
I could be wrong about this, but it seems just a few years ago, most people on both sides of the isle mocked anti vaxxers. Something seems to have changed.
Some of these things are pretty crazy. Very disheartening.