Bullshit
Well, maybe itās because racism is bad.
This is a fundamentally unreasonable position, because thatās not how any of this works.
I suppose Joe Biden may not understand this, as he doesnāt seem to understand much at all. He may have believed that the President of the USA can somehow be the lynchpin for the entire process of vaccine development and the emergency use authorization at the FDA. He may have believed that Trump could somehow subvert the vaccine development and regulatory process without raising the loudest alarm bells ever sounded by anyone, anywhere.
If you believe things like that, Bidenās concerns become very reasonable concerns to raise about the vaccine. Never put it past Donald Trump.
Yes, of course. Orange Man Bad.
All of the fact-free media narratives were perfectly justified. All for the greater good.
Well, I played soccer and I was a middle distance runner so I really know how they train and how it feels to perform. Middle distance runners do much more than work on technique. 2-3 k per workout? A 60 minute run at 80% of your mile time could cover over 10 miles.
No, I donāt believe in collectivism. There are reports that are skewed and taken out of context to fit a certain narrative.
But itās not hard to shit on Trump. He promoted āobamagateā and āqanonā on his Twitterā¦ he shat on virtually anyone who dared disobey his orders.
He is an arrogant bully and an absolute asshole. Not orange man badā¦ but orange man actually is bad.
As a president? Some of his policies were alright
If we separate the person he is from the policies he enacted (SOMETIMES) perhaps he wasnāt so bad. @twojarslave
Stillā¦ I didnāt agree with a solid 90% of the ideologies he touted. I donāt like populism, isolationism or nationalism (country, not race). For someone who panders towards ālaw and orderā he sure seems to break a lot of laws.
Either way, I donāt want a narcissist running the showā¦ someone who is totally fine with screwing others out of seven figure sums on a whims notice. Iām sure most politicians fit this billā¦ Trump was certainly more in your face about it.
Youāre not the only person who has murky second-hand knowledge of grievous misconduct by Trump.
If he was as bad as everyone said, the fact-free media narratives wouldnāt be necessary. You could just report on facts.
Not unlike racism in the USA. If it was rampant enough to require tearing down our institutions to be replaced with woke police, woke schools and a woke military, it should be easy to find many glaring examples.
Yet we have hoax after hoax, amplified by the media and Democrats. A writer for National Geographic just published a book that claims Kyle Rittenhouse shot two black people.
Thatās how powerful and problematic these fact-free narratives are.
Nice people make bad leaders, btw.
Back to COVID vaccines and public mistrust, this little exchange should serve as a good point of reflection for anyone wondering why there is institutional mistrust that shapes peopleās decisions on, say, getting a new vaccine or not.
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Itās actually not particularly murky. I know exactly what happened.
ā¦ I chuckle a little bit each time you bring up Democrats as if they are sole to blame for all of societies shortcomings. Not trying to be a dick.
Society is crumbling, but thereās more to it then Democrats.
Nice guys always finish last, you need a middle ground. It doesnāt have to be ānice guyā vs āassholeā.
We can agree to disagree.
Thereās a LOOOOOT of misinformation going about social media too. In Aus QR codes were even put upā¦ when scanned youād be taken to conspiracy theory laden websites pushing anti vaccine ideology.
It was everywhere. In todayās day and age an unbiased news source is difficult to find. To top it off, disseminating fact from fiction has actually become quite difficult.
I can understand why people would be hesitant to take this vaccine, hence Iām not going to rail on someone over this. Now sayā¦ refusing to immunise your child against tetanus, HPV, meningococcusā¦ I would certainly give someone shit for this.
I actually agree with this, and it simultaneously baffled and infuriated me every time I saw non-stories blowing up about Trumpās most recent and biggest awful deed of the day. It wasnāt ever necessary, and it clouded the more legitimate grievances against him. If everything is a big deal, nothingās a big deal. I think there have always been legitimate problems with Trump, and I think the mainstream media did a disservice to the conversation about said problems by making him out to be the worldās worst person at every turn.
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Call me skeptical on this, as they were not your millions and you were not swindled by Trump.
This is not my position. Youāre constructing an illogical extreme to argue against as a straw man.
Most of my commentary in PWI centers around criticism of Democrats because they have a tremendous amount of policies and rhetoric deserving of criticism. Much more so than the Republicans. I always ask for republican equivalence, and the lefties and āsame stuff on both sidesā people always come with really weak examples. The defund the police thread is a perfect example. The republican equivalence pointed out in that thread were mundane local voting changes in Georgia.
Itās getting rather absurd for anyone paying attention right now.
You really seem grounded in this notion that thereās a baseline moral equivalence among differing political parties. I get that people like to present themselves as above the fray, but the fray is a fray for good reason.
There is not today and there never has been moral equivalence at the policy level. That doesnāt mean the Republicans are perfect, but it does mean that the Democrats are the ones whoāve been on the wrong side of history and the party of actual evil policies since their founding, with generations of bad outcomes in hand to examine.
If someone wants me to adopt a kinder stand towards the woke left or feels like they need help either advocating for Democrats or criticizing Republicans, just ask. Iāll be happy to argue your point for you.
Well yeah, this is a big problem now. Trust in all of our major institutions is at an all-time low, from nearly all of government to pharma, tech, and media in the private sector.
Speaking for myself, Iām automatically skeptical of nearly everything I read now. Thatās not bad on itās face, but it would be nice to get a take on current events from actual credible sources that havenāt squandered their credibility in the name of #resistance activism.
This is why I find the mandates so reprehensible.
Iām a trillionaire.
Seriously? Take a look at your past posts in PWI. A MASSIVE chunk of it is āthe Democrats are responsible for this, and that, and that and this and thatā
As specified, Iām not trying to be an asshole. However you canāt tell me that you donāt have an immense political bias. Youāve spoken of Democrats being responsible for numerous socially destructive policies, to which I donāt entirely agree.
Look at the Reagan administration, the Iran contra affair and the ultimate infiltration of crack cocaine within predominantly low income neighbourhoods. Turn a blind eye to the mass importation of coke, turn a blind eye to the dealers and jail the usersā¦ both parties have been responsible for heinous atrocities throughout the years.
The woke left and the Democrats arenāt necessarily synonymous. Being a democrat doesnāt =/= woke
To note, after covid Iāve actually shifted. I wouldnāt vote democrat anymore ā¦ they used Australia as an analogy as to how covid should have been handled
As an Australian who witnessed what actually went down, I think such a notion is absurd. But Iād never vote republican either, which leaves me at a stalemate. This isnāt the only matter that caused me to shift my stance re who Iād vote for as Iām not a single issue voter.
Either I donāt vote at all or Iād hypothetically vote independent IF I was still in the USA.
Iām not grounded in this notion as far right and far left parties exist. There isnāt a moral equivalence between extremists and moderates. On both sides it appears the mainstream base of politicians is catering towards skewing further towards one side. My prediction isā¦ Democrats and republicans clash internally and both parties split off into two subsections.
Meaning there will be an isolationist, populist, quasi authoritarian variation of republicans and a moderate, libertarian, fiscally conservative variation of republicans just as there will be a woke, authoritarian variation of Democrats and a libertarian, anti cancel culture yet socially progressive variation of the Democrats.
But for Democrats and republicans as they stand today? Yesā¦ I see a moral equivalence
I donāt agree with the mandates, but they arenāt unique to the USā¦ theyāre been rolled out almost everywhere.
Yes, seriously. I just explained why. Just because I find modern Democrat policy and rhetoric far more concerning and choose to write about it doesnāt mean that I lay all of the problems in the world at their feet, nor does it mean that I consider the Republicans to be a perfect institution thatās above reproach.
I think thereās moral equivalence among the population of voters, but thatās not the same as the actual party policy. Nor does the superficial good intent of a policy shield someone from being accountable for the measurably bad outcomes. There are many fine Democrats who are blissfully unaware of the bad outcomes directly connected to their policies over the years and in present day. All very good people and living perfectly moral lives as they go about their normal business.
Your take on me is an illogical extreme and a straw man. You seem to be inferring these things about me due to my absence of posts on this issue or that.
Iāve actually invited people to make the case for me as some extremist radical, and Iām inviting you to back your words up with examples now. Put the unhinged twojarslave on display for everyone to see. It seems to me like youāre weaving aā¦
fact free narrative!
Or not, if you can make a compelling case. Itās okay, I also was rather fond of broad narratives that sounded good to me for some reason in my early 20ās. It didnāt help that I had all of these test scores and academic achievements that misinformed me of my own brilliance, either.
Iād love to hear you make a case for this as well. Look at your own post, the first example you reached for to back up your case for āas they stand todayā was from the Reagan administration. That was the 1980ās, which were awesome, btw. Today is 2022. Thatās not āas they stand todayā.
Feel free to start a new thread if you can back up your broad narratives with examples!
I realize this. In the USA there are no Republicans I am aware of advancing any kind of mandates at any level of government.
I donāt think this means what you seem to think it means.
Libertarianism in its purest form is a variant of anarchism.
99.9% of people who sell identify as Libertarianā¦ including Libertarian politicians arenāt actually libertarians as pure libertarianism is a shitshow
I was referring to the political axis, skewing further towards the Libertarian side as opposed to authoritarianism
Iām sure they were. Mainstream metal, frizzy hairstyles and arcades. Whatās not to love?
Iām inferring this take on you because you constantly complain about Democrats whenever we delve into topics encompassing politics. There is no bipartisan rhetoric here, give me a few key screw ups imparted through republicans that you believe were destructive or damaging to our societal status quo.
Actually we probs shouldnāt do this here as this thread is about vaccines.
Am I wrong? With all that is wrong with American society todayā¦ what portion of it do you believe is in part mediated by democrat policy?
As to Ron Desantis. What worked out in Florida isnāt necessarily going to work out everywhere
In Melbourne, Aus healthcare is crashing, ambulances are having to selectively ration out who they dispatch to. Australiaās hospital capacity is fucking abysmal
They had TWO FUCKING YEARS to figure this out, but they sat on their asses because ālockdowns will keep us at zero foreverā. After this stupidity was ditched, they decided to prepare byā¦ doing nothing
Incompetency at its finest, the Australian mottoā¦
Various smaller European countries like the Netherlands for example or Israel simply donāt have the hospital/ICU capacity to deal with the case load and subsequent hospitalisation rate Florida was equipped to deal with
Iām not pro lockdown, I think these countries ought to do what the UK did. That is, invest more into public healthcareā¦ exponentially more.
At this point in time, that is what is needed. Lockdowns are like slapping a band-aid over a gunshot wound, and the damage that leaks out through loss of jobs, economic recession takes a serious toll.
I was born in '80. Great decade to be a kid. Santa gifted me Motley Crue Girls Girls Girls when I was 7, along with a Red Ryder BB gun the next year.
These are all great questions for a new thread you should start. You speak of bipartisan rhetoric as if it is an inherently good thing, because reasons. You speak as if Iām doing some misdeed by failing to point out the far lesser concerns I have that are connected to Republican policy, rhetoric and governance.
Start a thread, make your case!
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAT
On tape. Santa knew that I loved Motley Crue because I told him so in my letter. Santa gifted me a lot of great tapes in the 80ās.
I donāt think youāve done anything wrong. As a matter of fact you seem like a genuine individual who has his heart in the right place.
Wowā¦ different times! Imagine how thatād go down today.
Above on my response I made an edit and mentioned Desantis, why his covid response wouldnāt work in various regions of the world
I believe that is applicable to this thread.
As to vaccines, there was an MD/scientist who managed to get a hold of blood samples within those who had been infected with SARS+ covid, and theyād also received the vaccines.
These individuals were found to have not only antibodies capable of neutralising delta and omicronā¦ but antibodies capable of neutralising coronaviruses humans havenāt even been exposed to (if I remember correctly)
Whether something can be done with this? I have no idea
The current vaccines arenāt good enough. It is not feasible, nor is it affordable to āboostā the whole world every 4-6 months, and the risk/benefit for younger people likely skews towards āriskā
I donāt believe these will be the be all end all. Perhaps we find a vaccine that covers all strains and actually generates full on immunity, thus ending this bullshit
However covid has given many countries an excuse to leap towards authoritarianism. Democracy has been on the decline for decades, covid lit a fuse under what was previously a slow crawl.
To quote Australia (listen to this bullshit) āsTaYiNg ApArT kEePs uS tOgEtHeRā