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[quote]SSC wrote:
MODOK wrote:
Bauer97 wrote:
eic wrote:
I am especially worried about this with my Trojans.

“MY Trojans”… from Nebraska with a Cornhusker avatar?? I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

Yeah…what the hell is up with that? If you tell us you have “2 favorite college teams” you are getting thrown off this site. Thats sacrelidge.

Eh… a bit. I’m a Gators fan 1,000,000 more than any other team, but when it’s a team that will in no way affect their season, (Michigan State, Wisconsin) I don’t see what the big deal is.

A USC fan from a Nebraska guy is a bit suspect, though, especially after the spanking they received last year. Ah well, enjoy who you enjoy.[/quote]

Yeah, the last couple years were tough. But I am definitely a USC fan more than a Nebraska fan (20 years of being in California vs. 4 years of being in Nebraska). Plus, it was easy to root against the Huskers with Callahan at the helm. But I definitely got plenty of shit from my buddies. The best moment was the Friday night before the USC/NU game this year.

I lived a couple blocks from Memorial Stadium and had my windows open. Then I heard “Fight On!” and was wondering who was playing that song, until I realized it was the Trojan band practicing at the stadium. Ah, sweetness!

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[quote]eic wrote:
What’s a guy supposed to do?
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Root for the Huskers, that’s what.

You went to school at NU? Then that’s who you root for. The State of Nebraska bleeds college football, it’s all they have, and they stick by that team through thick and thin. California has enough other shit on their minds, and I see USC fans come and go with the tides of USC football success. USC sucks. That is my completely objective opinion on the matter.

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[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
eic wrote:
What’s a guy supposed to do?

Root for the Huskers, that’s what.

You went to school at NU? Then that’s who you root for. The State of Nebraska bleeds college football, it’s all they have, and they stick by that team through thick and thin. California has enough other shit on their minds, and I see USC fans come and go with the tides of USC football success. USC sucks. That is my completely objective opinion on the matter.[/quote]

You’re just jealous because you played for Penn State, lol.

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[quote]MODOK wrote:

This is a TOTALLY forgein concept to true blue college football fans. Who you are a fan of is really either a birthright passed down from generation to generation, a bloodline if you will, OR its your alma mater (hopefully both). To pull against your alma mater seems awfully “benedict arnold” to most college fans, and you might very well be hung, drawn and quartered, or at the very least burned at the stake in Happy Valley, Knoxville, Lincoln, Norman, or most serious college football towns. May God have mercy on you. [/quote]

Well, to be fair, I went to NU for law school, not for undergrad. I think there’s a difference. Since I am first generation American, I can’t really have a bloodline sort of appreciation for ANY team, but I did like the Trojans as a kid. (I think it first started because I like their colors. My parents are diehard Redskins fans from Washington D.C. and when I was young I assumed the Trojans were the Redskins of college football.)

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[quote]eic wrote:
Bauer97 wrote:
eic wrote:
What’s a guy supposed to do?

Root for the Huskers, that’s what.

You went to school at NU? Then that’s who you root for. The State of Nebraska bleeds college football, it’s all they have, and they stick by that team through thick and thin. California has enough other shit on their minds, and I see USC fans come and go with the tides of USC football success. USC sucks. That is my completely objective opinion on the matter.

You’re just jealous because you played for Penn State, lol. [/quote]

Wait, what am I jealous of? I played for a team that, like Nebraska, has some of the most loyal fans/alums in the Nation.

A huge majority of USC “fans” magically appeared about 5 years ago, and would disappear just as quickly if that team started having a few mediocre years.

I absolutely love Nebraska football (outside of the atrocity of the few Callahan years) and the tradition it holds. If I were in your situation, I wouldn’t care if I only went to community college in Nebraska, that’d still be who I would root for.

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[quote]eic wrote:
Bauer97 wrote:
eic wrote:
What’s a guy supposed to do?

Root for the Huskers, that’s what.

You went to school at NU? Then that’s who you root for. The State of Nebraska bleeds college football, it’s all they have, and they stick by that team through thick and thin. California has enough other shit on their minds, and I see USC fans come and go with the tides of USC football success. USC sucks. That is my completely objective opinion on the matter.

You’re just jealous because you played for Penn State, lol. [/quote]

I know this is more tongue-in-cheek than anything, but out of all the Big 10 teams, I root for Penn State the most. At least they still keep the classic jerseys… U of M just converted to the new bullshit. I know Peterno is that team, but God do they need a new coach.

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[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
eic wrote:
What’s a guy supposed to do?

Root for the Huskers, that’s what.

You went to school at NU? Then that’s who you root for. The State of Nebraska bleeds college football, it’s all they have, and they stick by that team through thick and thin. California has enough other shit on their minds, and I see USC fans come and go with the tides of USC football success. USC sucks. That is my completely objective opinion on the matter.[/quote]

I would normally object to this, but since I have to be objective, its true. At least the years I played there. Yes you guys from PSU spanked us so bad, we had Kotex pads waiting in our locker room the day after the game being told that if we were going to play like that then we might as well wear these than helmets (thats a balls on accurate true story I swear on my father’s grave.) But nowadays, the Big Ten has fallen from grace and the Pac 10 is much stronger. Bottom line, USC doesn’t just beat people, they SPANK people. Last seasons, the 2 losses came by a total of 8 points.

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[quote]SSC wrote:
eic wrote:
Bauer97 wrote:
eic wrote:
What’s a guy supposed to do?

Root for the Huskers, that’s what.

You went to school at NU? Then that’s who you root for. The State of Nebraska bleeds college football, it’s all they have, and they stick by that team through thick and thin. California has enough other shit on their minds, and I see USC fans come and go with the tides of USC football success. USC sucks. That is my completely objective opinion on the matter.

You’re just jealous because you played for Penn State, lol.

I know this is more tongue-in-cheek than anything, but out of all the Big 10 teams, I root for Penn State the most. At least they still keep the classic jerseys… U of M just converted to the new bullshit. I know Peterno is that team, but God do they need a new coach.[/quote]

Penn State is a great team without question, forget about the history and nostalgia bullshit, they are tough each and every year. Paterno is very capable of taking his team to the BCS each and every year. The Penn State uniforms are classic, I LOVE the simplicity of it along with the colors. Very intimidating if you ask me. Its almost as if they are making the statement of, “this is old school football no matter the year. We are gonna back you in a corner and hammer you for 60 minutes. Bring your best because we are.”

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[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
eic wrote:
Bauer97 wrote:
eic wrote:
What’s a guy supposed to do?

Root for the Huskers, that’s what.

You went to school at NU? Then that’s who you root for. The State of Nebraska bleeds college football, it’s all they have, and they stick by that team through thick and thin. California has enough other shit on their minds, and I see USC fans come and go with the tides of USC football success. USC sucks. That is my completely objective opinion on the matter.

You’re just jealous because you played for Penn State, lol.

Wait, what am I jealous of? I played for a team that, like Nebraska, has some of the most loyal fans/alums in the Nation.

A huge majority of USC “fans” magically appeared about 5 years ago, and would disappear just as quickly if that team started having a few mediocre years.

I absolutely love Nebraska football (outside of the atrocity of the few Callahan years) and the tradition it holds. If I were in your situation, I wouldn’t care if I only went to community college in Nebraska, that’d still be who I would root for.[/quote]

First, I was just giving you some shit. But by your definition, no one can be a fan of USC because USC fans tend to be fair weather? I’m sorry, but what? Explain how someone is supposed to go about reversing that if I shouldn’t be a USC fan?

And I do root for Nebraska. I love the team, no question. But you have to keep in mind that Callahan and I came to Nebraska at the same time. Thus, I didn’t really pay much attention to Nebraska UNTIL Callafail took over. That made it REALLY hard to root for Nebraska, even though I had season tickets for three of those four years. I loved the team, the tradition, the fans, but I hated the coach. I was a fan of Pelini before Callahan got hired and am glad he’s back. I think he will do a great job and am very excited about that. (If it’s any consolation, my Nebraska apparel outnumbers my USC apparel.)

On the other hand, I have followed USC for about 15 years and, more recently, have become a huge Pete Carroll fan. If USC started sucking ass, I would still be a dedicated fan so long as Pete Carroll was still there. If he left, my interest would definitely be threatened.

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Amen to that, one thing I can’t stand is people who are fans only when their team does well. Every team has tough years or even tough games, and these fair-weather fans come and go. True fans appreciate their team regardless of their performance. I hate suck-ass fans like that.

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[quote]eic wrote:

First, I was just giving you some shit. But by your definition, no one can be a fan of USC because USC fans tend to be fair weather? I’m sorry, but what? Explain how someone is supposed to go about reversing that if I shouldn’t be a USC fan?

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Sorry if you actually took my post as serious, I can’t remember the last time I was actually offended on this site and responded in anything but jest.

I understand your position on rooting for USC. I just see those 2 programs as polar opposites in all aspects that encompass a college football program, it’s odd that you’d end up rooting for them both. I just tend to enjoy the things that Nebraska football stands for, and the fans of that program, more than USC.

By all means, be a loyal fan of USC, and stick by them when they eventually fall from grace (as all teams do). I have a feeling you might be very lonely, though.

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I have had people call to talk shit when my team either had struggled or had a bad season all around. These same people have called to congratulate me when my team did well. I told them to no longer call me. I really dis-like “yes-people.”

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Anyone for some playoff discussion?

How about the conference tie-ins w/ the bowls? I hate the fact that TCU’s best choice is usually Houston. A few years ago we had to go to San Diego while being locked out of bowls in Dallas, Shreveport, and San Antonio. The timing of the game made it even harder for people to make the trip.

What does everyone think about this current trend of adding a 12th game and playing a 1AA school? I hate it. TCU plays Stephen F. Austin for the home opener. They’ve struggled in 1AA. Several of my friends went to SFA.

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[quote]Spike9726 wrote:
Anyone for some playoff discussion?

How about the conference tie-ins w/ the bowls? I hate the fact that TCU’s best choice is usually Houston. A few years ago we had to go to San Diego while being locked out of bowls in Dallas, Shreveport, and San Antonio. The timing of the game made it even harder for people to make the trip.

What does everyone think about this current trend of adding a 12th game and playing a 1AA school? I hate it. TCU plays Stephen F. Austin for the home opener. They’ve struggled in 1AA. Several of my friends went to SFA. [/quote]

I have a love/hate affection for the games. As an ASU alum I like the bragging rights that come along with a Michigan win. I like the fact my friends that are D-1 alum say “Damn y’all played us tough.” As a friend of a past ASU Athletic Director I know the payday helps the entire athletic budget. A $600 grand game fee is little to sneeze at for anyone. The players love the games. They get to test their mettle against the best. They get to play on the “big stage”.

But does it help the game as a whole, I think not. I don’t see where it helps the D-1 teams but so much I mean its a schedule padder for the damn computer rankings. So I’m fully in favor of a playoff.

BTW, I know LSU is going to spank the App’s bottom this weekend. Plus I realize 3 national championships makes ASU not the normal 1AA foe. Still the facts are the facts.

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I think what bothers me the most is that the powers that be keep saying that a playoff would extend the season and detract from studies (over the holidays?) but to me the 12th game has the same effect. There are usually a few body bag games built in as most conferences has some dead wood anyway.

I don’t mind so much the big boys scheduling a MAC or Sunbelt team but 1AA is (most of the time) too far down. I don’t think those games should count towards bowl eligibility. Appalachian is an unusual case but I’d be hesitant to schedule them anyway. TCU once lost to Northwestern, LA. I later found out they are a perrenial top 5 1-AA school and had 7 prior wins against D1 teams.

TCU’s powers that be already insist on scheduling SMU because it was once a rivalry. Most of the younger fans would like to see this rivalry shelved, even though SMU usually plays us tough, even beat us a few years ago.

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A Playoff if definitely needed, but they would have to place emphasis on winning their conference. That should be key number one. Then you could do four at large teams and have the top 2 seeds have the first week off assuming 10 total teams if my thinking is right(similar to the NFL system but not exact obviously).

You could easily take the January Bowl games (big ones that is) and if they had to some of the night New Years Eve bowl games and use those for the Champ. series games. Have all reg. season games over at the end of November, Conference champ games 1st weekend of December, start the regular bowl games over the course of 2 weeks the 2nd weekend, then start the playoff.

This would obviously have lots of stipulations but I think it could work.

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I want more teams, a lot more teams, and not just from the 6 BCS conferences. One of the things the BCS overlooks is that one of the most exciting things about March Madness is the little guys, the whole David v Goliath thing. Let’s not forget who won the College World Series this year.

I think atleast the champ from every conference needs to be invited. Furthermore if that scenario plays out you’ll see these super conferences start to split. I enjoy the conference championship games, but I’m not bowled over with say, a B12 team that doesn’t play OU or UT, and Tech and the Ags are always tough at home, even in down years. That’s always been a gripe I’ve had w/ the SEC (I’m also a Bama fan), not everyone plays everyone. When Georgia won the title in 1980 they didn’t even play Bama.

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[quote]Spike9726 wrote:
I want more teams, a lot more teams, and not just from the 6 BCS conferences. One of the things the BCS overlooks is that one of the most exciting things about March Madness is the little guys, the whole David v Goliath thing. Let’s not forget who won the College World Series this year.

I think atleast the champ from every conference needs to be invited. Furthermore if that scenario plays out you’ll see these super conferences start to split. I enjoy the conference championship games, but I’m not bowled over with say, a B12 team that doesn’t play OU or UT, and Tech and the Ags are always tough at home, even in down years. That’s always been a gripe I’ve had w/ the SEC (I’m also a Bama fan), not everyone plays everyone. When Georgia won the title in 1980 they didn’t even play Bama. [/quote]

I hear ya there, the scheduling always puzzles me for each school(especially mine this year, my god TWO I-AA teams?!, seriously…) The thing to remember though is that their is ONE thing the BCS gets right and that is every game counts. Thats what makes it different from NCAA basketball and even baseball. Every game counts and each game is paid a lot of attention.

Basketball this isn’t always the case, you have the tourney buzz of course but once it get downs to about 8 it slowly fades. Note I am not defending the BCS, I think its a BS system like most everyone but it does have this aspect right.

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We are only about 5 hours from game time tonight y’all, amen to that!

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I’m actually looking forward to a Baylor game. That is unusual.