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[quote]SSC wrote:

“Media darlings” from Florida? I don’t get how Florida is any more media-exposed than Oklahoma, especially considering Tebow got third in the Heisman voting, even after receiving the most 1st place votes. Plus, I think it’s hilarious that someone on defense from Oklahoma is actually remarking on Florida. I didn’t even know there were cornerbacks in the Big XII.
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I have been deployed since last January. I don’t get to watch a lot of TV. When I do get to watch sports coverage all I hear about is Tim Tebow! I saw bits of the SEC title game. I thought Gary Danielson was going to to cream himself talking about Tim Tebow. OU has shattered scoring records that have existed for generations and all I hear about is how great Florida’s offense is. The media suck fest over Florida is mind boggling.

I can’t remember the last time I wanted to see OU destroy an opposing team like I want them to destroy Florida!

Better yet, if the Taliban was playing the Gators Thursday night and Bin Laden was their starting QB, I would still pull for the Taliban!

You are aware that OU led the nation in turnover margin with the big bad Gators number 2? So much for not playing defense, eh?

Yeah, hopefully OU “chokes” and wins the Big 12 again next year, which would be the 4th time in a row.

Dustin

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
Geez - what is the Big-10’s bowl record this year? 1-6? How much longer do we have to suffer through the talking heads thinking that conference is worth a flying fuck?

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Texas was a 10.5 point favorite and pulled out a 4th and 3 by less than an inch to keep their chances at the game alive(and go on to win by 3, obviously). That is your “#1 team in the country” according to all the people who cried about how they beat both OU+Mizz during the season and yet still got edged.

Also, what talking heads say the big 10 is worth a flying fuck? All I’ve heard all season is how terrible we are and how we don’t deserve any chance to play for anything even if PSU went undefeated.

Pretty sure they were underdogs in all of their games too(except Iowa I think, who lit up South Carolina), maybe underdogs should pull off upsets here and there(grats to your boys at TTU for losing to a vastly inferior Ole Miss team) but w/e. I just find it funny that of all the times to decide to bring back up the big-10 shit talking fest, it’s on the heels of an impressive performance by a team that wasn’t supposed to be able to hang with Texas at all. That was supposed to be UT’s showcase that they deserved a split national title, instead they looked fucking terrible for 3 quarters(good 3rd quarter) against a “slow bad big 10 defense.”

Just gonna enjoy this for 1 more sentence, but you gave up a TD on a fade to a quarterback.

For what it’s worth I agree that the big 10 is bad compared to big12/sec/pac-10, but even if the playoff system were in place, we still would’ve had teams in it the past few years, and you’d still cry about it(because it’s you).

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[quote]Dustin wrote:
SSC wrote:

“Media darlings” from Florida? I don’t get how Florida is any more media-exposed than Oklahoma, especially considering Tebow got third in the Heisman voting, even after receiving the most 1st place votes. Plus, I think it’s hilarious that someone on defense from Oklahoma is actually remarking on Florida. I didn’t even know there were cornerbacks in the Big XII.

I have been deployed since last January. I don’t get to watch a lot of TV. When I do get to watch sports coverage all I hear about is Tim Tebow! I saw bits of the SEC title game. I thought Gary Danielson was going to to cream himself talking about Tim Tebow. OU has shattered scoring records that have existed for generations and all I hear about is how great Florida’s offense is. The media suck fest over Florida is mind boggling.

I can’t remember the last time I wanted to see OU destroy an opposing team like I want them to destroy Florida!

Better yet, if the Taliban was playing the Gators Thursday night and Bin Laden was their starting QB, I would still pull for the Taliban!

You are aware that OU led the nation in turnover margin with the big bad Gators number 2? So much for not playing defense, eh? [/quote]

What the hell are you talking about?. What does turnover margin have to do with defense? And yes, the difference between 1st/119 and 2nd/119 is astounding… good point you have there. Oklahoma = 98th in the nation in pass defense, 63rd overall defense. Florida = 16th in the nation at pass defense, 8th overall in total defense. You may want to actually know what you’re talking about before you go on a forum and sound like an obnoxious homer.

[quote]For this one game, I hope that Chokelahoma lives up to their BCS legacy in the last 5-6 years.

Yeah, hopefully OU “chokes” and wins the Big 12 again next year, which would be the 4th time in a row.

Dustin

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Because winning the Big XII has really helped them win non-conference bowl games in those four years, indeed.

Fact: It’s going to be an exciting game. I’m a little sick of talking and hearing about it though. The better team will win on Thursday night, and no speculation from here until then is going to change that.

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[quote]red04 wrote:
Texas was a 10.5 point favorite and pulled out a 4th and 3 by less than an inch to keep their chances at the game alive(and go on to win by 3, obviously). That is your “#1 team in the country” according to all the people who cried about how they beat both OU+Mizz during the season and yet still got edged.

Also, what talking heads say the big 10 is worth a flying fuck? All I’ve heard all season is how terrible we are and how we don’t deserve any chance to play for anything even if PSU went undefeated. [/quote]

Did the Fuckeye’s lose? Then sit down and shut up. I don’t care if tu made it by the nose of the football, or fucking scored on that 4th down play.

You got beat. Offensively, you were fucking spanked.

They put over 400 yards passing up on the fuckeyes, so yeah - they don’t have much of a defense. Don’t get me wrong - and I have said this numerous times - I hate the Longhorns. If the fuckeyes were in any other conference, I probably would have rooted for them last night. Kirk Herbstreet has an orgasm any time anyone says “The Horseshoe” - even now.

I have been saying the Big-10 sucks for several years. They have. Until the press realizes this, and no longer gets a collective Big-10 hard-on every autumn Saturday - I will continue to bemoan the special treatment given to the worst fucking conference in the BCS. And no - one fucking season is not enough.

Who is the “you” shit? I would knock my own kids in the back of the head with a shovel, and throw them in a ditch if they even considered going to tu.

I would never cry over a playoff system. I don’t cry over the NCAA basketball tourney. Win and you’re in. Don’t and you get to watch it on TV. Any team from the Big-10 would go home in the first round. After 5-10 years of getting multiple teams in the playoffs, and going 0-fer the playoffs in each of those years, it will become obvious even to the Herbstreets of the country that I have been right all along.

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The Big 10 isn’t what it used to be. Back in the day, teams like Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State dominated the national scene, along with Miami, Florida, and FSU.

Now its a whole new scenario, with teams like Texas, Oklahoma, USC, LSU stepping up and competing for the national title every year.

Its not so much about conferences now as it about individual teams.

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[quote]SSC wrote:

What the hell are you talking about?. What does turnover margin have to do with defense? And yes, the difference between 1st/119 and 2nd/119 is astounding… good point you have there. Oklahoma = 98th in the nation in pass defense, 63rd overall defense. Florida = 16th in the nation at pass defense, 8th overall in total defense. You may want to actually know what you’re talking about before you go on a forum and sound like an obnoxious homer.
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My mistake, I was thinking that turnovers forced by the defense was part of the equation.

Obnoxious Homer? You have been rattling on about “Chokelahoma” quite a bit. Are you one of those fans that sits in the stand and chants “overrated” with the college students?

If my Sooners lose, it won’t be because they choked. I’m pretty certain they will be prepared. If they lose, it is because Florida was the better team. And, if you have read any of my previous posts in this thread, I have been, and remain very skeptical of how good OU is. For that matter, I’m not sure how good Florida is either. I really have no clue who will win.

An 8-4 OU beat a 1-loss Oregon in the Holiday Bowl in 2005. I guess they choked in that game? Do you watch football? Do you have your facts straight before you post? Just because a team plays in a Bowl game doesn’t mean they will win. Jim Tressel looked unbeatable in big games early in his coaching tenure at OSU, but lost his last 3 Bowl Games.

As good a coach as Swtizer was, even he lost National Title games.

Teams like USC who don’t seem to lose at all in Bowl Games are a rarity. It also shows how great a coach and recruiter Carrol is.

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Fact: It’s going to be an exciting game. I’m a little sick of talking and hearing about it though. The better team will win on Thursday night, and no speculation from here until then is going to change that.[/quote]

Yeah, me too. If you watch Sportcenter you would think OU has no chance.

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[quote]Dustin wrote:
If you watch Sportcenter you would think OU has no chance.
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Yeah, just like Utah had no chance; Ole Miss had no chance, LSU had no chance, Vandy had no chance . . . . . .

They’re both walking in 0 and 0. As the upsets thus far have proven, nobody has a crystal ball. Also, it’s been more than proven that the media can’t drown the underdog with ink; whichever team lays its ears back and bares its fangs will take it.

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[quote]Dustin wrote:
SSC wrote:

What the hell are you talking about?. What does turnover margin have to do with defense? And yes, the difference between 1st/119 and 2nd/119 is astounding… good point you have there. Oklahoma = 98th in the nation in pass defense, 63rd overall defense. Florida = 16th in the nation at pass defense, 8th overall in total defense. You may want to actually know what you’re talking about before you go on a forum and sound like an obnoxious homer.

My mistake, I was thinking that turnovers forced by the defense was part of the equation.

Obnoxious Homer? You have been rattling on about “Chokelahoma” quite a bit. Are you one of those fans that sits in the stand and chants “overrated” with the college students?

If my Sooners lose, it won’t be because they choked. I’m pretty certain they will be prepared. If they lose, it is because Florida was the better team. And, if you have read any of my previous posts in this thread, I have been, and remain very skeptical of how good OU is. For that matter, I’m not sure how good Florida is either. I really have no clue who will win. [/quote]

If the Sooners do lose, I think primary blame has to go to Stoops. Yes, regular season success is measured by conference championships and caliber quality of the bowl you’re sent to. But — as long as there is no playoff system, to win the game bowl at the end of the season is and should be priority #1 for every team, especially because of the cross-conference competitions.

Stoops is definitely a great coach, but if you can’t win the big one, then there’s a problem. Oklahoma is a team entrenched in tradition and prestige, and “Big Game” Bob Stoops just hasn’t come through for them much.

I do agree about your doubts about OU, because I feel the same way about both teams. I’m inclined to think that no matter who wins, there probably should be a split national championship. Had Texas dominated the game, I’d say it should go three ways, but it ought to be split between the winner of the NC game and Utah, for sure.

[quote] Because winning the Big XII has really helped them win non-conference bowl games in those four years, indeed.

An 8-4 OU beat a 1-loss Oregon in the Holiday Bowl in 2005. I guess they choked in that game? Do you watch football? Do you have your facts straight before you post? Just because a team plays in a Bowl game doesn’t mean they will win. Jim Tressel looked unbeatable in big games early in his coaching tenure at OSU, but lost his last 3 Bowl Games.

As good a coach as Swtizer was, even he lost National Title games.

Teams like USC who don’t seem to lose at all in Bowl Games are a rarity. It also shows how great a coach and recruiter Carrol is. [/quote]

For the first point, remember I said Oklahoma choked in their last 4 BCS bowl games.

For the second one, it’s affirmation that Ohio State and (I now believe) even Jim Tressel are part of the most overrated tradition in the last decade in the most overrated conference. Sorry, just a side rant.

[quote]Fact: It’s going to be an exciting game. I’m a little sick of talking and hearing about it though. The better team will win on Thursday night, and no speculation from here until then is going to change that.

Yeah, me too. If you watch Sportcenter you would think OU has no chance.
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Not going to lie, I’ve been shedding my Gators bias and have been listening to ESPN more objectively; the media does definitely smile down on Florida more. Can’t say I mind, though, that’s probably why I didn’t notice it before. :o

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Stoops HAS won the big one.

Do you have the same advice for the dumbass coaching the buckeyes?

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You Go Gators! Congrats to Florida, they played a heck of a game against a great team. I was thoroughly impressed by Oklahoma’s stout defense for most of the game. We kept at it, though, and kept plugging away with the run until we finally broke that defense!

And I truly cannot say enough about Florida’s defense… simply astounding.

Have some fun down there for me, Nate!

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[quote]rainjack wrote:

Tech was good enough to beat tu. [/quote]

Night road conference game. Tech and Texas on neutral field? Not sure if TTU keeps it close.

Maybe Texas wasn’t a world beater either? Obviously not significantly better than OSU.

I just covered their win against Texas. They got crucified by OU - they looked like a total joke against OU. Wins against the rest of the conference really are not supportive of a team being “good”. The Big 12 got owned in bowl games this year, including most of their “good” teams.

Stop being a homer with sand in your vagina. TTU was not as good as people thought. Paper tigers.

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Well, shit. I didn’t expect to win, but I had hoped. It was a good game.

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Yawn - Another Big 12 loss in a BCS game, what else is new.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
Stoops HAS won the big one.

Do you have the same advice for the dumbass coaching the buckeyes?

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You mean, the dude that has also won the big one, and lost 2(exact same as Stoops)

Also the comment about OSU being the most overrated tradition in the last DECADE(98-99 season was first of the BCS) they won the title in 2002, and until the 06-07-08 trifecta of bcs losses(I am well aware of how bad the 2 NC games were), they were 4-0 in BCS games(98 Sugar, 02, 03, 05 Fiestas).

That’s 7 BCS games in 10 years, 4-3 record. I’m sorry that we lost the 2 championship games in amazing blowout fashion and thus our program apparently has no validation, I’ll be sure to call the OSU Athletic Director and tell him to discontinue the football program immediately if you promise to tell OU to do the same.

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GO GATORS!!!

You guys should have listened to me at the beginning of the season when I posted many pages back that the Gators would be in and win the BCS championship.

I’ve predicted the scores for most of the games pretty damn accurately, and I’ve called plays like blocked field goals and interceptions before they even happened. I knew Florida would lose one game all season (although I didn’t think it was going to be against Ole Miss), and I did the same in 2006!

But you Gator haters just kept doubting me and the Florida Gators. Well, now you can finally eat crow.

And for anyone still arguing that the Utes should be number one or get the championship, it’s not going to happen.

Florida played several teams ranked number one at one point during the season (Georgia, Alabama, Oklahoma), as well as number three LSU and numerous other top 10 and top 25 teams. Now, did the Utes do that? Nope. Also, Auburn went undefeated a few years back and they were left out of the BCS National Championship as well.

Are the Utes a great team? Heck yeah! And they will most likely be ranked 2 or 3 in the final polls behind number 1 Florida with USC and Texas somewhere in that top five mix as well.

But for now, it’s all about the Gators. Give credit where credit is due. They were coached well, they played well, they have an inspirational leader who is a faithful and devout Christian in Tim Tebow, they have chemistry and so much more.

Congratulations to the Florida Gators from a long-time Gator fan, UF alum and Gainesville resident.

Oh, and if Tebow and Harvin (and Spikes) come back next year, the Gators will repeat as back-to-back national champs and even potentially go UNDEFEATED next season.

Word.

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[quote]Nate Dogg wrote:
GO GATORS!!!

You guys should have listened to me at the beginning of the season when I posted many pages back that the Gators would be in and win the BCS championship.

I’ve predicted the scores for most of the games pretty damn accurately, and I’ve called plays like blocked field goals and interceptions before they even happened. I knew Florida would lose one game all season (although I didn’t think it was going to be against Ole Miss), and I did the same in 2006!

But you Gator haters just kept doubting me and the Florida Gators. Well, now you can finally eat crow.[/quote]

For sure dude, you called it through. I figured Florida’s loss was going to come from Auburn again, but that’s not the point. That’s just a well-rounded team there.

[quote]And for anyone still arguing that the Utes should be number one or get the championship, it’s not going to happen.

Florida played several teams ranked number one at one point during the season (Georgia, Alabama, Oklahoma), as well as number three LSU and numerous other top 10 and top 25 teams. Now, did the Utes do that? Nope. Also, Auburn went undefeated a few years back and they were left out of the BCS National Championship as well.

Are the Utes a great team? Heck yeah! And they will most likely be ranked 2 or 3 in the final polls behind number 1 Florida with USC and Texas somewhere in that top five mix as well.[/quote]

You know what the crazy thing is, is that for the last 10 years, the team that’s won the national championship finishes the season ranked #1. Yes, we ALL know the BCS system is flawed, but as long as it’s here, it’s not changing! Somehow people think that Utah is owed something, how about Auburn of ('03, '04?) They went 12-0 in the SEC and only split the national championship!

Gators ARE the real #1, and the national champions, anyone who says otherwise is just dreaming and speaking hypothetically. Too bad this is reality.

[quote]But for now, it’s all about the Gators. Give credit where credit is due. They were coached well, they played well, they have an inspirational leader who is a faithful and devout Christian in Tim Tebow, they have chemistry and so much more.

Congratulations to the Florida Gators from a long-time Gator fan, UF alum and Gainesville resident.

Oh, and if Tebow and Harvin (and Spikes) come back next year, the Gators will repeat as back-to-back national champs and even potentially go UNDEFEATED next season.

Word.[/quote]

Hell yeah! I think it was Ivan Maisel or Schlabach on ESPN.com that predicted a back-to-back National Championship for Florida. As valuable as Spikes is, our secondary is so young and quick we can get through without him. I doubt Harvin’s coming back, though, unfortunately.

As far as competition for next year is concerned, I’m still impressed by how young and well-coached Alabama is; they’re only going to get better. LSU is going to be MUCH better than people expect next year, as well.

Anyway, it was a damn impressive win for a really, really good Florida team.

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[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
Well, shit. I didn’t expect to win, but I had hoped. It was a good game.[/quote]

Yeah, same here.

I’m traveling with the OU Rowing team next Sunday, and I’m not very excited to go through several airports decked out in OU garb. Last time we traveled we had people talking shit to us, and now that we lost it’s going to be a jolly time…

Ah, well, now we have basketball season :slight_smile:

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From a lifelong SEC fan (LSU) who was pulling for Florida: hold your head up, young lady. You have nothing to be ashamed of. Oklahoma gave a fine account of itself in the game. Like any other game, mistakes will be made on each side, great plays will be made on each side, and one team will outscore the other.

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Last time we traveled we had people talking shit to us, and now that we lost it’s going to be a jolly time…[/quote]
All most of those type people are capable of is talk. I doubt any of them were on the field. Hold your head high, you’re better than they are.

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time for a Playoff…this yr more than any…OK shouldn’t have even been in the final…after all is said and done…UTAH shoulda been voted National Champs…didn’t lose a game all yr…and beat up on Bama in their bowl win to boot.