Nothing terribly new, but I’m enjoying watching the shit begin to pile up on him.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
And fuck it, let me be the first to light this fire…
Where is the hate crime charge?
Do you think for one minute if the races were reversed and some white bouncer (or white guy in ANY capacity) had a black guy get on his knees and “pray” to “oh great fucking white dude”, “oh great motherfucking white dude” that there wouldn’t be a “hate crime” charge there? [/quote]
Uh, yeah…because they aren’t already charging him with everything they can find.
Just a tip…but if this really has you wound up more than it would if both of the guys involved were the same color, you aren’t any better.
I could see this sort of outrage if someone DIED.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
And fuck it, let me be the first to light this fire…
Where is the hate crime charge?
Do you think for one minute if the races were reversed and some white bouncer (or white guy in ANY capacity) had a black guy get on his knees and “pray” to “oh great fucking white dude”, “oh great motherfucking white dude” that there wouldn’t be a “hate crime” charge there? [/quote]
Uh, yeah…because they aren’t already charging him with everything they can find.
Just a tip…but if this really has you wound up more than it would if both of the guys involved were the same color, you aren’t any better.
I could see this sort of outrage if someone DIED.[/quote]
Really?
Well, tapping into collective fears and filming it is probably not a good idea.
The only thing he could have added is to bang this dudes girlfriend with a 10 inch cock, thus ruining her for all white men to come.
To paraphrase Malcom X, the most dangerous creature on this planet is not an angry black man, it is a scared white man.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Really? Because it seems to me that some are responding emotionally based on the races of the people involved to the point of talking about beating the guy up for something that apparently went down almost a full year ago.
The racist remarks escalating this on other web sites is far more troubling than something where the guy already got caught especially considering all of his personal info is now public and people the world over are harassing him also based more likely on skin color than his actions (unless you believe there would be the same reaction if both individuals were the same race). Further, why would you assume that he would not be punished by the law? Was there a recent rash of black people suddenly not getting charged?
[/quote]
And you’re not responding emotionally to all this because of the races of the people involved? That dude was the one who brought race into the whole thing bringing out the “Oh mighty brown man” talk. I’m not saying that there wouldn’t be hate language circulating without that line involved, but seriously he brought this on himself.
And as far as your, “I am more concerned with the beatings going down by cops than I am one instance of a bouncer with an inferiority complex.” Can’t one be concerned with both?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
And fuck it, let me be the first to light this fire…
Where is the hate crime charge?
Do you think for one minute if the races were reversed and some white bouncer (or white guy in ANY capacity) had a black guy get on his knees and “pray” to “oh great fucking white dude”, “oh great motherfucking white dude” that there wouldn’t be a “hate crime” charge there? [/quote]
Uh, yeah…because they aren’t already charging him with everything they can find.
Just a tip…but if this really has you wound up more than it would if both of the guys involved were the same color, you aren’t any better.
I could see this sort of outrage if someone DIED.[/quote]
There you go.
First, he SHOULD be charged with everything - that’s generally how the law works.
Are you really implying I’m “wound up” because the guy was black? Are you fucking kidding me? Wow. I know it’s just the internet, but your read on me is pretty poor if you believe that. I’m wound up because the motherfucking cocksucker is a bully and I’ve worked with a few. I hate bullies. Period.
I don’t need any tips from you. I do not like anyone abusing power. I do not like bullies.
And my comments about race were more a “fair is fair” kind of deal. We just had a guy here locally get jail time over a work incident where he (white) tricked a black co-worker into an enclosure and locked him in. Typical hi-jinks on the job. However, because he taunted him and made a monkey reference, he was charged with a hate crime. When you can tell me the difference between that “hate crime” and what we witnessed on this video, you can then “give me a tip”.
So someone has to die for us to have outrage? He bullied someone smaller. Why? Because he could get away with hit. He doesn’t pull that shit with me, you or anyone else capable of or giving the appearance of being able to defend themselves.
Really?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]SeanParent wrote:
Who has the feeling this guy wont be punished like he should?[/quote]
?
I think he may get some jail time…but he didn’t kill anyone. I mean, there are far worse things going down across the country than this bullshit.
I am more concerned with the beatings going down by cops than I am one instance of a bouncer with an inferiority complex.[/quote]
This is relativistic crap X and you’re more intelligent than this. Just because another crime is greater, does not excuse this crime. Would you feel the same if it were your 19 year old son locked in the bathroom with the bully? Being robbed, assaulted and made to get on his knees and pray to some “oh great big white dude”? A crime is a crime - what we witnessed AND someone getting their ass beat by cops. Is getting your ass beat by Houston cops so new down there that that sparks your rage? Because we been getting our asses kicked up here since I was a child. In fact, I was assaulted and violated by a cop that I used to play ball with 15 years earlier but he didn’t recognize me until we got to court. None of this is new…and none of it should be tolerated.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]SeanParent wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]SeanParent wrote:
Who has the feeling this guy wont be punished like he should?[/quote]
?
I think he may get some jail time…but he didn’t kill anyone. I mean, there are far worse things going down across the country than this bullshit.
I am more concerned with the beatings going down by cops than I am one instance of a bouncer with an inferiority complex.[/quote]
Well I think he may get jail time as well but probably not adequate time IMO
Also I def agree with you about being concerned with police beatings nation wide, but at the same time the obviously isn’t the only incident that has happened like this with the bouncer and probably happens a lot more than we think. That’s really what I’m concerned about[/quote]
Really? Because it seems to me that some are responding emotionally based on the races of the people involved to the point of talking about beating the guy up for something that apparently went down almost a full year ago.
[/quote]
This is bullshit. People don’t like a bully. When someone makes a racist remark, you can then claim racism and I will agree with you. Who cares when it went down? You think this cocksucker doesn’t get flamed here if he’s white and beating on a younger weaker kid, robbing him and making him drop to his knees? Are you fucking for one moment serious?
[quote]PaddyM wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Really? Because it seems to me that some are responding emotionally based on the races of the people involved to the point of talking about beating the guy up for something that apparently went down almost a full year ago.
The racist remarks escalating this on other web sites is far more troubling than something where the guy already got caught especially considering all of his personal info is now public and people the world over are harassing him also based more likely on skin color than his actions (unless you believe there would be the same reaction if both individuals were the same race). Further, why would you assume that he would not be punished by the law? Was there a recent rash of black people suddenly not getting charged?
[/quote]
And you’re not responding emotionally to all this because of the races of the people involved? That dude was the one who brought race into the whole thing bringing out the “Oh mighty brown man” talk. I’m not saying that there wouldn’t be hate language circulating without that line involved, but seriously he brought this on himself.
And as far as your, “I am more concerned with the beatings going down by cops than I am one instance of a bouncer with an inferiority complex.” Can’t one be concerned with both?[/quote]
No, I wasn’t responding emotionally. I haven’t written about beating anyone up. The bottom line is THE REACTION is no better than the action if it escalates into even more hate beyond the idiocy of the first act.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
And fuck it, let me be the first to light this fire…
Where is the hate crime charge?
Do you think for one minute if the races were reversed and some white bouncer (or white guy in ANY capacity) had a black guy get on his knees and “pray” to “oh great fucking white dude”, “oh great motherfucking white dude” that there wouldn’t be a “hate crime” charge there? [/quote]
Uh, yeah…because they aren’t already charging him with everything they can find.
Just a tip…but if this really has you wound up more than it would if both of the guys involved were the same color, you aren’t any better.
I could see this sort of outrage if someone DIED.[/quote]
There you go.
First, he SHOULD be charged with everything - that’s generally how the law works.
Are you really implying I’m “wound up” because the guy was black? Are you fucking kidding me? Wow. I know it’s just the internet, but your read on me is pretty poor if you believe that. I’m wound up because the motherfucking cocksucker is a bully and I’ve worked with a few. I hate bullies. Period.
I don’t need any tips from you. I do not like anyone abusing power. I do not like bullies.
And my comments about race were more a “fair is fair” kind of deal. We just had a guy here locally get jail time over a work incident where he (white) tricked a black co-worker into an enclosure and locked him in. Typical hi-jinks on the job. However, because he taunted him and made a monkey reference, he was charged with a hate crime. When you can tell me the difference between that “hate crime” and what we witnessed on this video, you can then “give me a tip”.
So someone has to die for us to have outrage? He bullied someone smaller. Why? Because he could get away with hit. He doesn’t pull that shit with me, you or anyone else capable of or giving the appearance of being able to defend themselves.
Really?[/quote]
I’m saying you are wound up way more than the concern of the guy who got humiliated and injured. You seem VERY concerned about the man’s comment…as if this one bouncer means anything. Yes, the outrage you are showing here goes a tad beyond trying to defend the victim. You are trying to make a statement…which is why you brought up a hate crime in the first place.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]SeanParent wrote:
Who has the feeling this guy wont be punished like he should?[/quote]
?
I think he may get some jail time…but he didn’t kill anyone. I mean, there are far worse things going down across the country than this bullshit.
I am more concerned with the beatings going down by cops than I am one instance of a bouncer with an inferiority complex.[/quote]
This is relativistic crap X and you’re more intelligent than this. Just because another crime is greater, does not excuse this crime. Would you feel the same if it were your 19 year old son locked in the bathroom with the bully? Being robbed, assaulted and made to get on his knees and pray to some “oh great big white dude”? A crime is a crime - what we witnessed AND someone getting their ass beat by cops. Is getting your ass beat by Houston cops so new down there that that sparks your rage? Because we been getting our asses kicked up here since I was a child. In fact, I was assaulted and violated by a cop that I used to play ball with 15 years earlier but he didn’t recognize me until we got to court. None of this is new…and none of it should be tolerated. [/quote]
Wait, are you really asking what I would do if I knew the victim as a close family member? in this analogy, does this mean you are relating “family” to this victim being white as far as yourself?
You have no relation to anyone involved so if your concern goes beyond the act and focuses on who is what race anymore than pointing how idiotic the bouncer is, it doesn’t make you any better than the people you are trying to critique.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]SeanParent wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]SeanParent wrote:
Who has the feeling this guy wont be punished like he should?[/quote]
?
I think he may get some jail time…but he didn’t kill anyone. I mean, there are far worse things going down across the country than this bullshit.
I am more concerned with the beatings going down by cops than I am one instance of a bouncer with an inferiority complex.[/quote]
Well I think he may get jail time as well but probably not adequate time IMO
Also I def agree with you about being concerned with police beatings nation wide, but at the same time the obviously isn’t the only incident that has happened like this with the bouncer and probably happens a lot more than we think. That’s really what I’m concerned about[/quote]
Really? Because it seems to me that some are responding emotionally based on the races of the people involved to the point of talking about beating the guy up for something that apparently went down almost a full year ago.
[/quote]
This is bullshit. People don’t like a bully. When someone makes a racist remark, you can then claim racism and I will agree with you. Who cares when it went down? You think this cocksucker doesn’t get flamed here if he’s white and beating on a younger weaker kid, robbing him and making him drop to his knees? Are you fucking for one moment serious?[/quote]
? Have you noticed the reaction? This reaction seems proportional to you to the act? People are not responding like this because he just a bully…and I think you know this. They aren’t responding just to reprimand him for making dumbass comments.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
And fuck it, let me be the first to light this fire…
Where is the hate crime charge?
Do you think for one minute if the races were reversed and some white bouncer (or white guy in ANY capacity) had a black guy get on his knees and “pray” to “oh great fucking white dude”, “oh great motherfucking white dude” that there wouldn’t be a “hate crime” charge there? [/quote]
Uh, yeah…because they aren’t already charging him with everything they can find.
Just a tip…but if this really has you wound up more than it would if both of the guys involved were the same color, you aren’t any better.
I could see this sort of outrage if someone DIED.[/quote]
There you go.
First, he SHOULD be charged with everything - that’s generally how the law works.
Are you really implying I’m “wound up” because the guy was black? Are you fucking kidding me? Wow. I know it’s just the internet, but your read on me is pretty poor if you believe that. I’m wound up because the motherfucking cocksucker is a bully and I’ve worked with a few. I hate bullies. Period.
I don’t need any tips from you. I do not like anyone abusing power. I do not like bullies.
And my comments about race were more a “fair is fair” kind of deal. We just had a guy here locally get jail time over a work incident where he (white) tricked a black co-worker into an enclosure and locked him in. Typical hi-jinks on the job. However, because he taunted him and made a monkey reference, he was charged with a hate crime. When you can tell me the difference between that “hate crime” and what we witnessed on this video, you can then “give me a tip”.
So someone has to die for us to have outrage? He bullied someone smaller. Why? Because he could get away with hit. He doesn’t pull that shit with me, you or anyone else capable of or giving the appearance of being able to defend themselves.
Really?[/quote]
I’m saying you are wound up way more than the concern of the guy who got humiliated and injured. You seem VERY concerned about the man’s comment…as if this one bouncer means anything. Yes, the outrage you are showing here goes a tad beyond trying to defend the victim. You are trying to make a statement…which is why you brought up a hate crime in the first place.
[/quote]
Now you’re going to tell me what my emotions and motivations are? Fucking precious.
I don’t like bullies. Period. And remember, I not too long ago czswalked away from an extra $300 cash per weekend because I worked along side assholes just like the one in the video. Don’t fucking try to tell me what my emotions and reactions are. I don’t like abuse of power. Period. Whether it comes from LEO, a bouncer, or just a plain bully on the street, I don’t like it.
I raised the issue of hate crime because I’m sick and tired of the fucking double standard that exists with regard to prosecution of so called “hate crimes”. A kid from NY went to jail for 15 years for an fight he had wherein he uttered “nigga” - this was in the press a few years back. And like I said, another white man just went to jail because of some bullshit prank at work. We aint exactly talking burning crosses on people’s lawns here. If the two examples I gave constitute a “hate crime”, well then making some poor kid kneel down and say “oh great brown dude” is no different than the guy here that got jail time for his work prank.
Now, if you want to respond, respond to the above - rebut it if you like, but don’t tell me what I mean and how I feel. I’m perfectly capable of expressing myself and I don’t exactly have a reputation here for holding back.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]SeanParent wrote:
Who has the feeling this guy wont be punished like he should?[/quote]
?
I think he may get some jail time…but he didn’t kill anyone. I mean, there are far worse things going down across the country than this bullshit.
I am more concerned with the beatings going down by cops than I am one instance of a bouncer with an inferiority complex.[/quote]
This is relativistic crap X and you’re more intelligent than this. Just because another crime is greater, does not excuse this crime. Would you feel the same if it were your 19 year old son locked in the bathroom with the bully? Being robbed, assaulted and made to get on his knees and pray to some “oh great big white dude”? A crime is a crime - what we witnessed AND someone getting their ass beat by cops. Is getting your ass beat by Houston cops so new down there that that sparks your rage? Because we been getting our asses kicked up here since I was a child. In fact, I was assaulted and violated by a cop that I used to play ball with 15 years earlier but he didn’t recognize me until we got to court. None of this is new…and none of it should be tolerated. [/quote]
Wait, are you really asking what I would do if I knew the victim as a close family member? in this analogy, does this mean you are relating “family” to this victim being white as far as yourself?
You have no relation to anyone involved so if your concern goes beyond the act and focuses on who is what race anymore than pointing how idiotic the bouncer is, it doesn’t make you any better than the people you are trying to critique.[/quote]
You know something, it’s tiring that you see race at every turn. Very tiring. This goes back at least 10 years on this site alone. Too bad for you. But I don’t walk in your shoes, so I cannot judge.
My example of a family member had NOTHING to do with race X. It was offered in rebuttal to your dismissive attitude toward the “crime” as compared to other crimes that you find more troubling - most notably the police beatings. In other words, would you be as dismissive of the crime in question had that been your son. I threw in a white bouncer for good measure and to make the example equal to what occurred here. Race has nothing to do with it, but since you raise it in this context, I’m throwing it bask at you in my example.
So, instead of hooking red herrings, please tell me if that happened to your son, would police beatings still be the top crime on your radar?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]SeanParent wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]SeanParent wrote:
Who has the feeling this guy wont be punished like he should?[/quote]
?
I think he may get some jail time…but he didn’t kill anyone. I mean, there are far worse things going down across the country than this bullshit.
I am more concerned with the beatings going down by cops than I am one instance of a bouncer with an inferiority complex.[/quote]
Well I think he may get jail time as well but probably not adequate time IMO
Also I def agree with you about being concerned with police beatings nation wide, but at the same time the obviously isn’t the only incident that has happened like this with the bouncer and probably happens a lot more than we think. That’s really what I’m concerned about[/quote]
Really? Because it seems to me that some are responding emotionally based on the races of the people involved to the point of talking about beating the guy up for something that apparently went down almost a full year ago.
[/quote]
This is bullshit. People don’t like a bully. When someone makes a racist remark, you can then claim racism and I will agree with you. Who cares when it went down? You think this cocksucker doesn’t get flamed here if he’s white and beating on a younger weaker kid, robbing him and making him drop to his knees? Are you fucking for one moment serious?[/quote]
? Have you noticed the reaction? This reaction seems proportional to you to the act? People are not responding like this because he just a bully…and I think you know this. They aren’t responding just to reprimand him for making dumbass comments. [/quote]
I think the people here are responding to a bully. I think on the other sites with the racist comments, they are responding to more. No one here raised race. I raised the hate crime angle - and it was a legitimate point.
For the record, I the club I was referring to was entirely black so I walked away from that $$ b/c I got tired of watching BLACK bullies beat up and abuse their power over BLACK customers. I assure you, race has nothing to do with my feelings about this video other than the fact that I think he should have been charged with a hate crime too.
If it was a big white dude making a smaller black guy get on his knees and bow to the almighty great white man, the shit storm would have been 10x worse.
The cop that shot the native american woodcarver in Seattle or wherever pissed me off more.
But this is pretty close. At first I had no idea what was going to happen, I was just wondering why the dude was letting a bouncer search his pockets. Then when he started fucking with his phone I knew some shit was going to go down. And then it did.
The black guy should get to experience the same thing the white guy had to some day soon, IE imprisonment, fearing for his safety, feeling helpless, a brief, minor beating, and humiliation.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]lia67 wrote:
the obvious thing to do would be for the guy he slapped to wait for him to finish and get him on his own in the car park and batter the fuck out of him and i would take his trainers just for good measure [/quote]
this is what I was thinking. How did that guy not come after that bouncer later when the bouncer wasnt expecting it.[/quote]
some people just aint that type , there worried about breaking the law themselves n gettin in trouble bollox also alot of people are just pussies like that .
Why put a guy with a anger issue in prison? He bullied some guy pretty and assaulted him(though only a punch). Shouldn’t he be in rehab or treatment for anger issues?
Prison all i can see is just make people into criminals. I mean really giving this guy 5 years is RIDICULOUS, not like a High school bully would get this kind of sentence(and a fucken kid in high school is god dam developed enough to know what to do and not to do).
[quote]lia67 wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]lia67 wrote:
the obvious thing to do would be for the guy he slapped to wait for him to finish and get him on his own in the car park and batter the fuck out of him and i would take his trainers just for good measure [/quote]
this is what I was thinking. How did that guy not come after that bouncer later when the bouncer wasnt expecting it.[/quote]
some people just aint that type , there worried about breaking the law themselves n gettin in trouble bollox also alot of people are just pussies like that .[/quote]
How is not wanting to ruin your life with potential assault and hate crime charges being a pussy? Last time I checked, a criminal record basically fucks up the rest of your life
[quote]optheta wrote:
Why put a guy with a anger issue in prison? He bullied some guy pretty and assaulted him(though only a punch). Shouldn’t he be in rehab or treatment for anger issues?
Prison all i can see is just make people into criminals. I mean really giving this guy 5 years is RIDICULOUS, not like a High school bully would get this kind of sentence(and a fucken kid in high school is god dam developed enough to know what to do and not to do). [/quote]
I don’t have an opinion on what the sentence should be b/c like I said, if that were my son, that shit would be handled - no police.
However, your comments about “anger issues” I feel misses the mark by a football field. At what point in that video do you see any anger from the bouncer? He doesn’t assault him for a good 3 minutes. The rest of the time he’s just fucking with him, leading up to a cool, collected beating just for the fuck of it. LOL @ anger issues. Motherfucker has issues for sure, and I’m not sure anger is one of them.