Good evening to all, so I’ve been doing the Escalating Density Program Phase II for 7 weeks and decided to take about a week and a half off for the holidays and honestly for myself too. That training was no joke just like it’s predecessor phase one I have felt like once in each program and so I took that as a sign that said “It’s time to slow down a little.” I was making progress except for a couple of days where I was just beyond extremely tired to work out and also due to the fact that I was consuming too little protein for financial reasons for 2 weeks. Anyway, I wanted to continue the program but using heavier weight and taking longer rests but that seems senseless bcuz if start doing that then the work out it’s pretty much the same as with lighter weight and shorter rests.
I’m currently doing intermediate programs mostly for size so im quite skeptical about going heavier with longer rests, I think maybe just a normal program that calls for a single exercise at a time bcuz all this shit jamed packed into one session for a long time takes a toll on you fast.
Here’s an interesting study that caught my attention a week ago on the radio "people that have been into any type of extreme fitness practices (like bodybuilding and marathon running)die younger than others that don’t. Now that also got me really worried and was also part of what made me stop doing that crazy ass EDT PII, I’m not a researcher so don’t have a clue as wherther that’s true or not. Have you guys ever heard of such thing?
You don’t seem like you have a clue about much at all…including your own motivation to do this. People who want this bad enough don’t get worried because some study they fished out claimed that people into “extreme fitness” die sooner.
Also, bodybuilding ain’t “extreme fitness”. Doing a triathlon is “extreme fitness”.
So, you are doing “Escalating Density Program Phase II”…whatever that is. What are your stats and why do you need a program that it appears you can’t handle?
LOL dude have you ever heard of Jack LaLanne? Hes in his 90’s now and is still a STRONG STRONG MAN.
I’ve heard of a shorter lifespan for marathon running because of the constant and sometimes overbearing stress on the heart muscles, but not bodybuilding.
Sounds like whoever wrote your article wants you to stay weak and sick so you can visit him at the doctors office.
dude just go lift some heavy shit, who cares about some “study” most are fabricated demographically anyways, if it persuades you that much then you don’t want this bad enough to have any real success
Being a 300 plus lb NFL lineman or elite powerlifter is extreme fitness. Being in the Special Forces or SEALS is extreme fitness. Lifting weights a few times a week and doing some cardio or recreation sports is not extreme.
And you seem to way over think your programming without a real understanding of what you are talking about.
As GreenMountains said… When you work out 5 times a week for 1h each, that’s 5h per week. Where I live there are 168h in a week. If you sleep 8h a night that’s 112h of “active life” (LOL).
That’s like 4,46% of your active life working out per week.
Get over it.
I know a guy in who’s in the Danish special forces. He just came back after some months of training. His face looked like he’d escaped from a death camp (skinny). Now that’s extreme fitness!
[quote]GreenMountains wrote:
Being a 300 plus lb NFL lineman or elite powerlifter is extreme fitness.
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What the hell are you talking about? Most NFL players are notoriously out of shape. I’m not just playing on the “fat lineman” stereotype, I’m just saying, most NFL players are out of shape, especially for being at that level.
[quote]GreenMountains wrote:
Being a 300 plus lb NFL lineman or elite powerlifter is extreme fitness.
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What the hell are you talking about? Most NFL players are notoriously out of shape. I’m not just playing on the “fat lineman” stereotype, I’m just saying, most NFL players are out of shape, especially for being at that level.
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I think you need to qualify “out of shape”. Certainly, most O and D linemen aren’t the epitome of the the bodybuilding asthetic, but seriously, these are on average, 6.5 foot, 300+ lb men who run 4 and 5 second 40m’s who go head to head with other men that size for a couple hours every week, plus practice, etc.
They’re not running marathons any time soon, but I don’t think anyone on this site even comes close to being able to handle that level of ‘fitness’ explosiveness and endurance. Maybe Bauer (former Penn St. football player), but even he isn’t/wasn’t carrying as much weight as NFL O-linemen.
Ok I missed a word in the original post here it is "“That training was no joke just like it’s predecessor phase one I have felt like fainting once in each program and so I took that as a sign that said “It’s time to slow down a little.”” I go to the gym with no trining partner and don’t intend to because mostly it leads to time consuming shit talking.
EDT PI and PII were quite normal programs for the first couple of weeks after thats fuck that shit it’s too much it’s like a circuit straight from the pits of hell. I liked the program noe I just simply want to start another one bcuz it has grown very cumbersome so It’s not like I’m not serious about it that’s why I want to switch I’ve already endured the wrath It unleashed within my frail puny body.
I’m 219 6’1 and 25 yrs old and yes I dont mean to be an asshole but I have already handled it for long enough. As far as that study goes like said I don’t know if It’s true or not it just contributed to the .1% reason thats I needed to throw in the towel for EDT PII all I want now is to continue with another intermediate mass building program i just don’t know which bcuz I feel thats If it’s not as intense and hellish as EDT then It’s not gonna work but I dont want more EDT it’s fucking confusing.
[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
By the way it also seems like you’re not recovering tho the capacity that you can BECAUSE of your lack of protein intake.[/quote]
that was only for about week and a half after that i was fine.
[quote]GreenMountains wrote:
Being a 300 plus lb NFL lineman or elite powerlifter is extreme fitness.
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What the hell are you talking about? Most NFL players are notoriously out of shape. I’m not just playing on the “fat lineman” stereotype, I’m just saying, most NFL players are out of shape, especially for being at that level.
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I think you need to qualify “out of shape”. Certainly, most O and D linemen aren’t the epitome of the the bodybuilding asthetic, but seriously, these are on average, 6.5 foot, 300+ lb men who run 4 and 5 second 40m’s who go head to head with other men that size for a couple hours every week, plus practice, etc.
They’re not running marathons any time soon, but I don’t think anyone on this site even comes close to being able to handle that level of ‘fitness’ explosiveness and endurance. Maybe Bauer (former Penn St. football player), but even he isn’t/wasn’t carrying as much weight as NFL O-linemen.[/quote]
Good answer.
He should go do 95% of 1 RM for a double and then sprint 20 yards. Repeat 30-50 times over a 3 hour period and then get back if he thinks that requires a certain level of sport specific fitness.
Plus, if he doesnâ??t think being over 300 lbs and violently smashing into other equally big and strong men thousands of times a year is extreme and might just shorten oneâ??s life span, then I donâ??t really know how to respond or at least wonâ??t be wasting much time debating it.
[quote]Damner wrote:
Ok I missed a word in the original post here it is "“That training was no joke just like it’s predecessor phase one I have felt like fainting once in each program and so I took that as a sign that said “It’s time to slow down a little.”” I go to the gym with no trining partner and don’t intend to because mostly it leads to time consuming shit talking.
EDT PI and PII were quite normal programs for the first couple of weeks after thats fuck that shit it’s too much it’s like a circuit straight from the pits of hell. I liked the program noe I just simply want to start another one bcuz it has grown very cumbersome so It’s not like I’m not serious about it that’s why I want to switch I’ve already endured the wrath It unleashed within my frail puny body.
I’m 219 6’1 and 25 yrs old and yes I dont mean to be an asshole but I have already handled it for long enough. As far as that study goes like said I don’t know if It’s true or not it just contributed to the .1% reason thats I needed to throw in the towel for EDT PII all I want now is to continue with another intermediate mass building program i just don’t know which bcuz I feel thats If it’s not as intense and hellish as EDT then It’s not gonna work but I dont want more EDT it’s fucking confusing.[/quote]
Have you tried, perhaps, getting more food and sleep when you find yourself stalling rather than just quitting a program altogether? It seems like you’re just going to keep quitting every time it gets a little hard for you.
[quote]GreenMountains wrote:
Being a 300 plus lb NFL lineman or elite powerlifter is extreme fitness.
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What the hell are you talking about? Most NFL players are notoriously out of shape. I’m not just playing on the “fat lineman” stereotype, I’m just saying, most NFL players are out of shape, especially for being at that level.
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Are you kidding? How exactly could you possibly say that these guys are out of shape? Espcecially position players like WR’s, DB’s, Linebackers, Defensive ends?
Even the Nose tackles and lineman, who are far larger then average, are in tremedous shape, and are among the top of the genetic gene pool.
Do you even know any NFL players? Do you have any idea the pure amount of PREPARATION that goes into the offseason?
[quote]GreenMountains wrote:
Being a 300 plus lb NFL lineman or elite powerlifter is extreme fitness.
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What the hell are you talking about? Most NFL players are notoriously out of shape. I’m not just playing on the “fat lineman” stereotype, I’m just saying, most NFL players are out of shape, especially for being at that level.
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#1 on the list of “Signs that the person speaking to you has never played football in his life that didn’t involve 3rd graders”.
LOL @ Football players being out of shape. I played Football in HS and i had to lose 20 lbs(and succeeded) in order to make the cut(Runningback). We’d do hill drills and sled pushing so many times, run 3 miles a day, and no one got on the team just by being a strong fat fuck.
And regardless of HS football, I’d say that a decent amount of guys on pro teams are both strong, AND fast. Look at Michael Pittman, Thomas Jones, Brady Quinn.
[quote]Damner wrote:
Ok I missed a word in the original post here it is "“That training was no joke just like it’s predecessor phase one I have felt like fainting once in each program and so I took that as a sign that said “It’s time to slow down a little.”” I go to the gym with no trining partner and don’t intend to because mostly it leads to time consuming shit talking.
EDT PI and PII were quite normal programs for the first couple of weeks after thats fuck that shit it’s too much it’s like a circuit straight from the pits of hell. I liked the program noe I just simply want to start another one bcuz it has grown very cumbersome so It’s not like I’m not serious about it that’s why I want to switch I’ve already endured the wrath It unleashed within my frail puny body.
I’m 219 6’1 and 25 yrs old and yes I dont mean to be an asshole but I have already handled it for long enough. As far as that study goes like said I don’t know if It’s true or not it just contributed to the .1% reason thats I needed to throw in the towel for EDT PII all I want now is to continue with another intermediate mass building program i just don’t know which bcuz I feel thats If it’s not as intense and hellish as EDT then It’s not gonna work but I dont want more EDT it’s fucking confusing.[/quote]
It sounds like you’re ready for the three way DC split, bro.