[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
This thread is awesome. OP has a great posting history.[/quote]
this just made me lugh in class, lol i love sarcasm
and for the record i lift decently heavy ive never been a light weights type of guy cept for that one time on cable flys…[/quote]
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
Lol at OP not thinking Rockula is a good source of info
Lol at the second post going ape shit over nothing
To the question
What you do with this info i dont really care you disrespected my boy here
close grip bench is best IMO with a chest and triceps day at the end of the chest portion, or before flys if you do them
close grip chinups are good on a back and biceps day, imo at the end of the back portion
Brian Dobson from metroflex gym does them like that.
oh and LOL at the overtraining after 16 sets[/quote]
OP doesn’t even want actual information just confirmation of his own beliefs[/quote]
lol ummmm yea, just want reassurance that it fine lol something wrong with it? LOL[/quote]
yeah it’s called confirmation bias
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]eightohfive wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]eightohfive wrote:
just did some close grip bench today for my arm day… for the close grip, i’d say i would NOT count it as a chest exercise if you are doing it correctly, elbows tucked in throughout the motion. That is my personal opinion. Yes, it obviously requires your chest to do a little work, but it should not serve as a chest exercise. I’ve never gotten a sore chest from it.
Close grip chinups will work your back, if you focus on form and “pause” at the top. if you pinch your shoulder blades at the top of the movement i could see it giving your back a decent workout. But as with the close grip bench, i would not suggest replacing your standard back exercise, such as pull-up or wide grip pullup with a close grip if youre trying to hit your back. both the wide and standard grip blast your biceps as well as your back, so why not do one of those?
)[/quote]
Are you seriously trying to explain what a specfici movement ‘counts as’???
Is this real life?
That is absolutely a compltely backwards way to choose exercises.
You choose exercises based on what they do for YOU. Not what a textbook SAYS theyre supposed to do.
That means that there is no possible way you know how extensively a close grip bench press hits another persons arms or shoulders or pecs. [/quote]
that would be like say, calf workouts may work your pecs, cuz thats just how you may do them. Or, i duno how but my bench is giving my quads a serious pump! No, certain exercises work certain muscles, across the board.[/quote]
Comparing pec stimulation during CGP to quad stimulation during a bench press is retarded. Im finding it hard to think of a worse analogy than that.
PARADOX.
did you hear this before???
You cannot separate the pecs, deltoids and triceps during a CGP.
maybe because CGP is a multijoints (compound) excercise???
Saying it doesnt ‘count’ as a pec movement makes no sense at all. It CLEARLY uses requires the pecs to do a significant amount of work, regardless of if you do it 'right’or not. [/quote]
I’m an alien,when I do CGBP i feel my tris sore,my chest fresh and -of course- my QUADS on fire LOL
[quote]buzza wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]eightohfive wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]eightohfive wrote:
just did some close grip bench today for my arm day… for the close grip, i’d say i would NOT count it as a chest exercise if you are doing it correctly, elbows tucked in throughout the motion. That is my personal opinion. Yes, it obviously requires your chest to do a little work, but it should not serve as a chest exercise. I’ve never gotten a sore chest from it.
Close grip chinups will work your back, if you focus on form and “pause” at the top. if you pinch your shoulder blades at the top of the movement i could see it giving your back a decent workout. But as with the close grip bench, i would not suggest replacing your standard back exercise, such as pull-up or wide grip pullup with a close grip if youre trying to hit your back. both the wide and standard grip blast your biceps as well as your back, so why not do one of those?
)[/quote]
Are you seriously trying to explain what a specfici movement ‘counts as’???
Is this real life?
That is absolutely a compltely backwards way to choose exercises.
You choose exercises based on what they do for YOU. Not what a textbook SAYS theyre supposed to do.
That means that there is no possible way you know how extensively a close grip bench press hits another persons arms or shoulders or pecs. [/quote]
that would be like say, calf workouts may work your pecs, cuz thats just how you may do them. Or, i duno how but my bench is giving my quads a serious pump! No, certain exercises work certain muscles, across the board.[/quote]
Comparing pec stimulation during CGP to quad stimulation during a bench press is retarded. Im finding it hard to think of a worse analogy than that.
PARADOX.
did you hear this before???
You cannot separate the pecs, deltoids and triceps during a CGP.
maybe because CGP is a multijoints (compound) excercise???
Saying it doesnt ‘count’ as a pec movement makes no sense at all. It CLEARLY uses requires the pecs to do a significant amount of work, regardless of if you do it 'right’or not. [/quote]
I’m an alien,when I do CGBP i feel my tris sore,my chest fresh and -of course- my QUADS on fire LOL
[/quote]
THanks for explaining to me that a CGP is a compound movement.
And where is there a paradox?
Im going to chalk this up to a language barrier issue. Because I have no idea what the point of your explanation is.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]buzza wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]eightohfive wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]eightohfive wrote:
just did some close grip bench today for my arm day… for the close grip, i’d say i would NOT count it as a chest exercise if you are doing it correctly, elbows tucked in throughout the motion. That is my personal opinion. Yes, it obviously requires your chest to do a little work, but it should not serve as a chest exercise. I’ve never gotten a sore chest from it.
Close grip chinups will work your back, if you focus on form and “pause” at the top. if you pinch your shoulder blades at the top of the movement i could see it giving your back a decent workout. But as with the close grip bench, i would not suggest replacing your standard back exercise, such as pull-up or wide grip pullup with a close grip if youre trying to hit your back. both the wide and standard grip blast your biceps as well as your back, so why not do one of those?
)[/quote]
Are you seriously trying to explain what a specfici movement ‘counts as’???
Is this real life?
That is absolutely a compltely backwards way to choose exercises.
You choose exercises based on what they do for YOU. Not what a textbook SAYS theyre supposed to do.
That means that there is no possible way you know how extensively a close grip bench press hits another persons arms or shoulders or pecs. [/quote]
that would be like say, calf workouts may work your pecs, cuz thats just how you may do them. Or, i duno how but my bench is giving my quads a serious pump! No, certain exercises work certain muscles, across the board.[/quote]
Comparing pec stimulation during CGP to quad stimulation during a bench press is retarded. Im finding it hard to think of a worse analogy than that.
PARADOX.
did you hear this before???
You cannot separate the pecs, deltoids and triceps during a CGP.
maybe because CGP is a multijoints (compound) excercise???
Saying it doesnt ‘count’ as a pec movement makes no sense at all. It CLEARLY uses requires the pecs to do a significant amount of work, regardless of if you do it 'right’or not. [/quote]
I’m an alien,when I do CGBP i feel my tris sore,my chest fresh and -of course- my QUADS on fire LOL
[/quote]
THanks for explaining to me that a CGP is a compound movement.
it was a (second) paradox LOL
And where is there a paradox?
Im going to chalk this up to a language barrier issue. Because I have no idea what the point of your explanation is.
[/quote]
it’s not a language barrier, it’s a matter of irony (no,not the iron lol).
if someone talls me that during a bench (close or regular,who cares?) he feels his quads pumped I have two options:
option A = this is unreal,this could be a paradox (iron/Y mode on)
option B; the guy is benchin with legs.
he is a mutant.
that all,dude 
[quote]bignate wrote:
stop being a bitch, do a shit load of close grip presses one day and see whats sore the next. then do a shit load of neutral chins and see whats sore the next fucking day you slacking peice of shit i dont wanna do more than 16 pathetic sets a muscle group [/quote]
This
The end
i realize it uses your chest Captain Obvious. I’d venture to say that if you asked someone what CGBP targeted, they’d say triceps, not chest. With elbows tucked throughout ROM, to me, it’s a triceps workout. But hey, i’ve been wrong before. chill out
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
This thread is awesome. OP has a great posting history.[/quote]
this just made me lugh in class, lol i love sarcasm
and for the record i lift decently heavy ive never been a light weights type of guy cept for that one time on cable flys…[/quote]
not heavy enough, if you can do 20+ sets
your not getting stronger in the gym
your getting weaker as you continuously lift
i deadlift 315x10 335x8 360x6 an then 405 2-3 reps
an after this, im pretty much dead, no way I can do 20 sets lifting like this
over an over, as I said you dont get stronger in the gym you get weaker
if you were lifting heavy, you wouldnt be able to hit 20+ sets
an glad you like sarcasm, me too
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
This thread is awesome. OP has a great posting history.[/quote]
this just made me lugh in class, lol i love sarcasm
and for the record i lift decently heavy ive never been a light weights type of guy cept for that one time on cable flys…[/quote]
not heavy enough, if you can do 20+ sets
your not getting stronger in the gym
your getting weaker as you continuously lift
i deadlift 315x10 335x8 360x6 an then 405 2-3 reps
an after this, im pretty much dead, no way I can do 20 sets lifting like this
over an over, as I said you dont get stronger in the gym you get weaker
if you were lifting heavy, you wouldnt be able to hit 20+ sets
an glad you like sarcasm, me too [/quote]
well im close to benching what you deadlift
are you still not convinced?
its called eating, if you do a lot of it you can recover better then if you dont do a lot of it.
I dont know if you realize this but weight lifting is actually supposed to tire you out.
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
This thread is awesome. OP has a great posting history.[/quote]
this just made me lugh in class, lol i love sarcasm
and for the record i lift decently heavy ive never been a light weights type of guy cept for that one time on cable flys…[/quote]
not heavy enough, if you can do 20+ sets
your not getting stronger in the gym
your getting weaker as you continuously lift
i deadlift 315x10 335x8 360x6 an then 405 2-3 reps
an after this, im pretty much dead, no way I can do 20 sets lifting like this
over an over, as I said you dont get stronger in the gym you get weaker
if you were lifting heavy, you wouldnt be able to hit 20+ sets
an glad you like sarcasm, me too [/quote]
well im close to benching what you deadlift
are you still not convinced?
its called eating, if you do a lot of it you can recover better then if you dont do a lot of it.
I dont know if you realize this but weight lifting is actually supposed to tire you out.
[/quote]
lol dude this isn’t a competition, im not a powerlifter nor am i competiting in strength with you, its a competition with myself to get stronger, always increasing every 3-4 weeks my weights an reps
im training for the navy SEALS, I run, swim, lift an do calesthenics
also just because you bench alot doesnt always mean your deadlift is going to be great
i know alot of people who bench 500 pounds but who cares they cant run, or dont have endurance for a fight, or deadlift even close to what they bench and these guys are bodybuilders an some yes are fat guys who just bench alot
what im saying is for YOU, you might not be lifting heavy enough for YOURSELF.
To you maybe 405 is a baby weight to others 130 is heavy,
so for YOU, I dont believe your lifting heavy enough to be doing 20+ sets
its as you said “weight lifting tires you out”
therefore how can you lift 20+ sets all supposedly heavy?
you lose strength as you lift heavy throughout your workout
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
This thread is awesome. OP has a great posting history.[/quote]
this just made me lugh in class, lol i love sarcasm
and for the record i lift decently heavy ive never been a light weights type of guy cept for that one time on cable flys…[/quote]
not heavy enough, if you can do 20+ sets
your not getting stronger in the gym
your getting weaker as you continuously lift
i deadlift 315x10 335x8 360x6 an then 405 2-3 reps
an after this, im pretty much dead, no way I can do 20 sets lifting like this
over an over, as I said you dont get stronger in the gym you get weaker
if you were lifting heavy, you wouldnt be able to hit 20+ sets
an glad you like sarcasm, me too [/quote]
well im close to benching what you deadlift
are you still not convinced?
its called eating, if you do a lot of it you can recover better then if you dont do a lot of it.
I dont know if you realize this but weight lifting is actually supposed to tire you out.
[/quote]
lol dude this isn’t a competition, im not a powerlifter nor am i competiting in strength with you, its a competition with myself to get stronger, always increasing every 3-4 weeks my weights an reps
im training for the navy SEALS, I run, swim, lift an do calesthenics
also just because you bench alot doesnt always mean your deadlift is going to be great
i know alot of people who bench 500 pounds but who cares they cant run, or dont have endurance for a fight, or deadlift even close to what they bench and these guys are bodybuilders an some yes are fat guys who just bench alot
what im saying is for YOU, you might not be lifting heavy enough for YOURSELF.
To you maybe 405 is a baby weight to others 130 is heavy,
so for YOU, I dont believe your lifting heavy enough to be doing 20+ sets
its as you said “weight lifting tires you out”
therefore how can you lift 20+ sets all supposedly heavy?
you lose strength as you lift heavy throughout your workout
[/quote]
BUDS is going to be so much fun for you if you ever get there…
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
This thread is awesome. OP has a great posting history.[/quote]
this just made me lugh in class, lol i love sarcasm
and for the record i lift decently heavy ive never been a light weights type of guy cept for that one time on cable flys…[/quote]
not heavy enough, if you can do 20+ sets
your not getting stronger in the gym
your getting weaker as you continuously lift
i deadlift 315x10 335x8 360x6 an then 405 2-3 reps
an after this, im pretty much dead, no way I can do 20 sets lifting like this
over an over, as I said you dont get stronger in the gym you get weaker
if you were lifting heavy, you wouldnt be able to hit 20+ sets
an glad you like sarcasm, me too [/quote]
well im close to benching what you deadlift
are you still not convinced?
its called eating, if you do a lot of it you can recover better then if you dont do a lot of it.
I dont know if you realize this but weight lifting is actually supposed to tire you out.
[/quote]
lol dude this isn’t a competition, im not a powerlifter nor am i competiting in strength with you, its a competition with myself to get stronger, always increasing every 3-4 weeks my weights an reps
im training for the navy SEALS, I run, swim, lift an do calesthenics
also just because you bench alot doesnt always mean your deadlift is going to be great
i know alot of people who bench 500 pounds but who cares they cant run, or dont have endurance for a fight, or deadlift even close to what they bench and these guys are bodybuilders an some yes are fat guys who just bench alot
what im saying is for YOU, you might not be lifting heavy enough for YOURSELF.
To you maybe 405 is a baby weight to others 130 is heavy,
so for YOU, I dont believe your lifting heavy enough to be doing 20+ sets
its as you said “weight lifting tires you out”
therefore how can you lift 20+ sets all supposedly heavy?
you lose strength as you lift heavy throughout your workout
[/quote]
ramping and changing exercises … it’s not like every set is “oh shit! this is heavy!” heavy
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
This thread is awesome. OP has a great posting history.[/quote]
this just made me lugh in class, lol i love sarcasm
and for the record i lift decently heavy ive never been a light weights type of guy cept for that one time on cable flys…[/quote]
not heavy enough, if you can do 20+ sets
your not getting stronger in the gym
your getting weaker as you continuously lift
i deadlift 315x10 335x8 360x6 an then 405 2-3 reps
an after this, im pretty much dead, no way I can do 20 sets lifting like this
over an over, as I said you dont get stronger in the gym you get weaker
if you were lifting heavy, you wouldnt be able to hit 20+ sets
an glad you like sarcasm, me too [/quote]
well im close to benching what you deadlift
are you still not convinced?
its called eating, if you do a lot of it you can recover better then if you dont do a lot of it.
I dont know if you realize this but weight lifting is actually supposed to tire you out.
[/quote]
lol dude this isn’t a competition, im not a powerlifter nor am i competiting in strength with you, its a competition with myself to get stronger, always increasing every 3-4 weeks my weights an reps
im training for the navy SEALS, I run, swim, lift an do calesthenics
also just because you bench alot doesnt always mean your deadlift is going to be great
i know alot of people who bench 500 pounds but who cares they cant run, or dont have endurance for a fight, or deadlift even close to what they bench and these guys are bodybuilders an some yes are fat guys who just bench alot
what im saying is for YOU, you might not be lifting heavy enough for YOURSELF.
To you maybe 405 is a baby weight to others 130 is heavy,
so for YOU, I dont believe your lifting heavy enough to be doing 20+ sets
its as you said “weight lifting tires you out”
therefore how can you lift 20+ sets all supposedly heavy?
you lose strength as you lift heavy throughout your workout
[/quote]
BUDS is going to be so much fun for you if you ever get there…
[/quote]
i already was accepted to start end of summer
an it is gonna be fun, painful, but really fun
im nervous an excited all at the same time
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
This thread is awesome. OP has a great posting history.[/quote]
this just made me lugh in class, lol i love sarcasm
and for the record i lift decently heavy ive never been a light weights type of guy cept for that one time on cable flys…[/quote]
not heavy enough, if you can do 20+ sets
your not getting stronger in the gym
your getting weaker as you continuously lift
i deadlift 315x10 335x8 360x6 an then 405 2-3 reps
an after this, im pretty much dead, no way I can do 20 sets lifting like this
over an over, as I said you dont get stronger in the gym you get weaker
if you were lifting heavy, you wouldnt be able to hit 20+ sets
an glad you like sarcasm, me too [/quote]
well im close to benching what you deadlift
are you still not convinced?
its called eating, if you do a lot of it you can recover better then if you dont do a lot of it.
I dont know if you realize this but weight lifting is actually supposed to tire you out.
[/quote]
lol dude this isn’t a competition, im not a powerlifter nor am i competiting in strength with you, its a competition with myself to get stronger, always increasing every 3-4 weeks my weights an reps
im training for the navy SEALS, I run, swim, lift an do calesthenics
also just because you bench alot doesnt always mean your deadlift is going to be great
i know alot of people who bench 500 pounds but who cares they cant run, or dont have endurance for a fight, or deadlift even close to what they bench and these guys are bodybuilders an some yes are fat guys who just bench alot
what im saying is for YOU, you might not be lifting heavy enough for YOURSELF.
To you maybe 405 is a baby weight to others 130 is heavy,
so for YOU, I dont believe your lifting heavy enough to be doing 20+ sets
its as you said “weight lifting tires you out”
therefore how can you lift 20+ sets all supposedly heavy?
you lose strength as you lift heavy throughout your workout
[/quote]
ramping and changing exercises … it’s not like every set is “oh shit! this is heavy!” heavy[/quote]
well thats what he claims, his words exactly
“I lift heavy for everything except cable crossovers”
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
This thread is awesome. OP has a great posting history.[/quote]
this just made me lugh in class, lol i love sarcasm
and for the record i lift decently heavy ive never been a light weights type of guy cept for that one time on cable flys…[/quote]
not heavy enough, if you can do 20+ sets
your not getting stronger in the gym
your getting weaker as you continuously lift
i deadlift 315x10 335x8 360x6 an then 405 2-3 reps
an after this, im pretty much dead, no way I can do 20 sets lifting like this
over an over, as I said you dont get stronger in the gym you get weaker
if you were lifting heavy, you wouldnt be able to hit 20+ sets
an glad you like sarcasm, me too [/quote]
well im close to benching what you deadlift
are you still not convinced?
its called eating, if you do a lot of it you can recover better then if you dont do a lot of it.
I dont know if you realize this but weight lifting is actually supposed to tire you out.
[/quote]
lol dude this isn’t a competition, im not a powerlifter nor am i competiting in strength with you, its a competition with myself to get stronger, always increasing every 3-4 weeks my weights an reps
im training for the navy SEALS, I run, swim, lift an do calesthenics
also just because you bench alot doesnt always mean your deadlift is going to be great
i know alot of people who bench 500 pounds but who cares they cant run, or dont have endurance for a fight, or deadlift even close to what they bench and these guys are bodybuilders an some yes are fat guys who just bench alot
what im saying is for YOU, you might not be lifting heavy enough for YOURSELF.
To you maybe 405 is a baby weight to others 130 is heavy,
so for YOU, I dont believe your lifting heavy enough to be doing 20+ sets
its as you said “weight lifting tires you out”
therefore how can you lift 20+ sets all supposedly heavy?
you lose strength as you lift heavy throughout your workout
[/quote]
ramping and changing exercises … it’s not like every set is “oh shit! this is heavy!” heavy[/quote]
well thats what he claims, his words exactly
“I lift heavy for everything except cable crossovers”
[/quote]
Lol you just know sooo much about me
If you honestly think that i implied I do 20 straight all out sets your a fool
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
This thread is awesome. OP has a great posting history.[/quote]
this just made me lugh in class, lol i love sarcasm
and for the record i lift decently heavy ive never been a light weights type of guy cept for that one time on cable flys…[/quote]
not heavy enough, if you can do 20+ sets
your not getting stronger in the gym
your getting weaker as you continuously lift
i deadlift 315x10 335x8 360x6 an then 405 2-3 reps
an after this, im pretty much dead, no way I can do 20 sets lifting like this
over an over, as I said you dont get stronger in the gym you get weaker
if you were lifting heavy, you wouldnt be able to hit 20+ sets
an glad you like sarcasm, me too [/quote]
well im close to benching what you deadlift
are you still not convinced?
its called eating, if you do a lot of it you can recover better then if you dont do a lot of it.
I dont know if you realize this but weight lifting is actually supposed to tire you out.
[/quote]
lol dude this isn’t a competition, im not a powerlifter nor am i competiting in strength with you, its a competition with myself to get stronger, always increasing every 3-4 weeks my weights an reps
im training for the navy SEALS, I run, swim, lift an do calesthenics
also just because you bench alot doesnt always mean your deadlift is going to be great
i know alot of people who bench 500 pounds but who cares they cant run, or dont have endurance for a fight, or deadlift even close to what they bench and these guys are bodybuilders an some yes are fat guys who just bench alot
what im saying is for YOU, you might not be lifting heavy enough for YOURSELF.
To you maybe 405 is a baby weight to others 130 is heavy,
so for YOU, I dont believe your lifting heavy enough to be doing 20+ sets
its as you said “weight lifting tires you out”
therefore how can you lift 20+ sets all supposedly heavy?
you lose strength as you lift heavy throughout your workout
[/quote]
You do realize this is in a bodybuilding/powerlifting forum?
Even if your not training for those specifically, you’re asking those who are.
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
This thread is awesome. OP has a great posting history.[/quote]
this just made me lugh in class, lol i love sarcasm
and for the record i lift decently heavy ive never been a light weights type of guy cept for that one time on cable flys…[/quote]
not heavy enough, if you can do 20+ sets
your not getting stronger in the gym
your getting weaker as you continuously lift
i deadlift 315x10 335x8 360x6 an then 405 2-3 reps
an after this, im pretty much dead, no way I can do 20 sets lifting like this
over an over, as I said you dont get stronger in the gym you get weaker
if you were lifting heavy, you wouldnt be able to hit 20+ sets
an glad you like sarcasm, me too [/quote]
well im close to benching what you deadlift
are you still not convinced?
its called eating, if you do a lot of it you can recover better then if you dont do a lot of it.
I dont know if you realize this but weight lifting is actually supposed to tire you out.
[/quote]
lol dude this isn’t a competition, im not a powerlifter nor am i competiting in strength with you, its a competition with myself to get stronger, always increasing every 3-4 weeks my weights an reps
im training for the navy SEALS, I run, swim, lift an do calesthenics
also just because you bench alot doesnt always mean your deadlift is going to be great
i know alot of people who bench 500 pounds but who cares they cant run, or dont have endurance for a fight, or deadlift even close to what they bench and these guys are bodybuilders an some yes are fat guys who just bench alot
what im saying is for YOU, you might not be lifting heavy enough for YOURSELF.
To you maybe 405 is a baby weight to others 130 is heavy,
so for YOU, I dont believe your lifting heavy enough to be doing 20+ sets
its as you said “weight lifting tires you out”
therefore how can you lift 20+ sets all supposedly heavy?
you lose strength as you lift heavy throughout your workout
[/quote]
ramping and changing exercises … it’s not like every set is “oh shit! this is heavy!” heavy[/quote]
well thats what he claims, his words exactly
“I lift heavy for everything except cable crossovers”
[/quote]
You’re being far too literal in your interpretation. What he means is he works up to heavy top set on all almost all his exercises. That’s actually how most big/strong guys train. The part about the cable flies was an inside joke so to speak.
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
This thread is awesome. OP has a great posting history.[/quote]
this just made me lugh in class, lol i love sarcasm
and for the record i lift decently heavy ive never been a light weights type of guy cept for that one time on cable flys…[/quote]
not heavy enough, if you can do 20+ sets
your not getting stronger in the gym
your getting weaker as you continuously lift
i deadlift 315x10 335x8 360x6 an then 405 2-3 reps
an after this, im pretty much dead, no way I can do 20 sets lifting like this
over an over, as I said you dont get stronger in the gym you get weaker
if you were lifting heavy, you wouldnt be able to hit 20+ sets
an glad you like sarcasm, me too [/quote]
well im close to benching what you deadlift
are you still not convinced?
its called eating, if you do a lot of it you can recover better then if you dont do a lot of it.
I dont know if you realize this but weight lifting is actually supposed to tire you out.
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lol dude this isn’t a competition, im not a powerlifter nor am i competiting in strength with you, its a competition with myself to get stronger, always increasing every 3-4 weeks my weights an reps
im training for the navy SEALS, I run, swim, lift an do calesthenics
also just because you bench alot doesnt always mean your deadlift is going to be great
i know alot of people who bench 500 pounds but who cares they cant run, or dont have endurance for a fight, or deadlift even close to what they bench and these guys are bodybuilders an some yes are fat guys who just bench alot
what im saying is for YOU, you might not be lifting heavy enough for YOURSELF.
To you maybe 405 is a baby weight to others 130 is heavy,
so for YOU, I dont believe your lifting heavy enough to be doing 20+ sets
its as you said “weight lifting tires you out”
therefore how can you lift 20+ sets all supposedly heavy?
you lose strength as you lift heavy throughout your workout
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ramping and changing exercises … it’s not like every set is “oh shit! this is heavy!” heavy[/quote]
well thats what he claims, his words exactly
“I lift heavy for everything except cable crossovers”
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Lol you just know sooo much about me
If you honestly think that i implied I do 20 straight all out sets your a fool[/quote]
lol then whats so funny about 16 sets?
if you do 18 or maybe 19?
regardless, you implied you do more than 16 an that 16 is just funny i guess to you
my point is you implied that you did more than 16 for a muscle
thats bottom line
dont care if you think 16 is funny or not
just you implied you do more an i question how?
lifting heavy for all of them as you said
thats pretty much all I was questioning
but hey its besides the point
do whatever works for you I suppose
who cares if I believe you lift heavy or not
its whatever, dont let my opinion bother you
[quote]SewZz wrote:
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]Magnum300 wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
This thread is awesome. OP has a great posting history.[/quote]
this just made me lugh in class, lol i love sarcasm
and for the record i lift decently heavy ive never been a light weights type of guy cept for that one time on cable flys…[/quote]
not heavy enough, if you can do 20+ sets
your not getting stronger in the gym
your getting weaker as you continuously lift
i deadlift 315x10 335x8 360x6 an then 405 2-3 reps
an after this, im pretty much dead, no way I can do 20 sets lifting like this
over an over, as I said you dont get stronger in the gym you get weaker
if you were lifting heavy, you wouldnt be able to hit 20+ sets
an glad you like sarcasm, me too [/quote]
well im close to benching what you deadlift
are you still not convinced?
its called eating, if you do a lot of it you can recover better then if you dont do a lot of it.
I dont know if you realize this but weight lifting is actually supposed to tire you out.
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lol dude this isn’t a competition, im not a powerlifter nor am i competiting in strength with you, its a competition with myself to get stronger, always increasing every 3-4 weeks my weights an reps
im training for the navy SEALS, I run, swim, lift an do calesthenics
also just because you bench alot doesnt always mean your deadlift is going to be great
i know alot of people who bench 500 pounds but who cares they cant run, or dont have endurance for a fight, or deadlift even close to what they bench and these guys are bodybuilders an some yes are fat guys who just bench alot
what im saying is for YOU, you might not be lifting heavy enough for YOURSELF.
To you maybe 405 is a baby weight to others 130 is heavy,
so for YOU, I dont believe your lifting heavy enough to be doing 20+ sets
its as you said “weight lifting tires you out”
therefore how can you lift 20+ sets all supposedly heavy?
you lose strength as you lift heavy throughout your workout
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You do realize this is in a bodybuilding/powerlifting forum?
Even if your not training for those specifically, you’re asking those who are.
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oh I know
I believe bodybuilders have there place in what my goals are
with there knowledge of increasing strength an how the muscles work
I get my other info off of others such as swimmers, runners
mma fighters,
but bodybuilders know alot of how the muscles works
how to increase strength without bulking so I can excel in the other sports like swim, run, an martial arts
so thats why I ask questions here from time to time, not that im a novice but hey we all don’t know everything, theres always something new to learn
you all would know more about exercises an strength building
so I thank you all for any feedback.
all my strength I’ve built up is actually thanks to bodybuilders an powerlifters giving me advice an how to build strength enough but not enough to hinder my running, swimming an martial arts an also to aid me in the military
<3 the bodybuilding forum