Hi team being reading a lot on Clen lately and just wondering why it’s only recommended at lower body fat percentage.
If a user wanted to could they not use it at a higher body fat percentage in order to speed up and increase the rate at which they would lose bodily fat whilst also receiving the same benefits such as muscle retention fullness etc.
If someone wanted to run clan at a higher body fat percentage how would they do it what would be the recommendations.
Sidequest: what’s the reason why you can’t run it at lower dosages to get some of the clen benefits but not the full benefits of a normal cycle for example if someone was to run it at 20 mcg and keep it at that level would they not get at least some of the clenn benefits?
Clen is not magic. It’s like doing an extra 20min of cardio. When your at a higher BF your already putting undue strain on your heart and clen puts additional strain on it. It should be reserved for when you’re already fairly lean and wanna drop those last couple lbs of fat.
You would be much better served using a GLP drug like tirzepatide or retatrutide. Almost all benefit with very little to no side effects aside from possible gastro issues.
I’ve also read that tbol and test can be good whilst doing a cut again low dosages thinking of just doing the minimum so you get there mild steroidal effect rather than doing a full cycle this is the first time I’ve used any steroids so want to take it easy
The only reason to use steroids to cut would be to retain muscle in a very steep deficit or when you are very low bodyfat. Steroids are for building muscle. Save it for that.
What are your stats?
I would recommend proper diet/training and maybe the addition of a GLP-1 but that’s about it right now.
I would also say it’s foolish to cut that hard for no reason. 1500cals is barley enough to maintain normal body function. It is not sustainable and you will have a hard rebound when you start eating again. You also have nowhere to go when fat loss stops.
This is a short-sighted approach from my perspective. You need to slowly drop your percent body fat until you get close to 15% and stay there on a maintenance diet until it becomes a natural body composition set point.
Let’s say you get to 15% body fat and you can hold that look for 4 or 5 months, then focus on adding a little muscle and not look worse in the mirror. Within a year or so, your body could establish that current body composition as its natural set point.
This is ultimately what your goal should be. You don’t want to be fighting to keep from getting fatter ever again. My visual definition of 15% body fat for a bodybuilder or other weight lifter is to see major body part separation throughout your physique.
You don’t need to look shredded, but at 15% body fat you are practically within reach of getting shredded within 3 months.
Ok so the aim for this season then would be to cut fat, stick at that for the summer comfortably and then consider a cycle to put some mass on before then a cut next year.
What are your thoughts on some of the sarms like GW510516, sr9009 etc for cutting that I’ve been advised to use before? Also rad140 I know a few people who have used before whilst cutting?
I am not saying that the above won’t work. I have experience working with no more than 15% body fat, and it was a piece of cake dropping into the 5%’s for me. Painful, yes, but I could dependably get there every time.
I get your impatience. People I have seen that try going from “do I look like I lift weights” to “that guy pounds some serious iron” are seldom successful of even coming close.
I can only offer my experiences and what I have seen. Ultimately, you make the final decision.
IMO, your main goal should be to get the look at the beach that no one needs ask if you lift weights.
Are you just looking to take something?
Last time i’m gonna say it. Best thing you can take is a GLP-1 drug to keep blood sugar linear and it will decrease appetite and burn fat.
Not one other thing you have mentioned directly burns fat. Not steroids/SARMS. Some have mechanisms to allow for lipolysis but they do not burn fat. 0 reason to put additional strain on your heart. Get diet dialed, cardio going and if you insist on taking something the GLP. Retatrutide works amazingly well at even 1mg/wk.
Hey Gentz, it’s not that I’m desperate to take something. More that my understanding has always been that there are drugs you can take whilst cutting that allow you to keep muscle mass and strength, and potentially grow a little at the same time.
I’m just trying to get my understanding straight that’s all. I’m shocked to understand that there are no aids you can use to help retain or keep fullness whilst on a cut. But that’s why I’ve come here for your advice and help. Thank you again my brother.
Have you heard of muscle memory? If you have held muscle and you quit lifting. Once you start again, muscle memory allows you to reacquire most of that muscle much faster than you acquired originally.
Low percent body fat is very similar. Once you have been below 10% body fat it is much easier to get there the next time. Any low percent body fat that you desire to get to is very much more difficult to get there the first time. Most everyone attempting to do this the first time loses much more muscle than they believed they would, regardless of how much AAS they try taking.
