Clear Up a Couple of Myths, Please

I lift (heavy) weights and do yoga a total of about five times a week. I also teach strength training classes a few times a week. (The classes are for older adults, so we’re using less heavy weights.). Can you please enlighten me on the current thinking on a couple of things:

  1. If I lift light & intermediate weights very much while I’m teaching my classes, I’ll actually un-do my gains from my own heavy-weight workout sessions.

  2. Creatine can cause baldness in men.

What does it mean to “undo a gain”?

There is no evidence to support claim 2.

This is an interesting question. I’ve been increasingly thinking about doing bone builders classes, or something similarly geared to older women, and I assumed it would fall under the active recovery umbrella for me.

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If you suddenly add a bunch of in class light workouts to your workload, it’s possible you could be too “fatigued” or “tired” to lift as heavy as normal during your personal heavy workouts.

Like if you go from lifting weights by yourself 2-3 times a weeks to lifting weights 5-6 days a week your poundsges might suffer.

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And lifting big weights is a skill, like a special kind of coordination, that requires some practice.

So if you spent a couple months lifting Only lighter. in the the 10 or 20 rep ranges, you’d probably lift less when you returned to the Heavy, low rep ranges.

Meaning, I’ll lose muscle mass if I do a lot of light/intermediate lifting (teaching classes). I want to preserve the gains I make on heavy-lifting (personal workouts) days.

I cannot see activity directly resulting in atrophy. It COULD possibly impact your recovery from training, but it could also help facilitate it in the form of a feeder workout.

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I am sure that I have used creatine far longer than any man on T-Nation. I am 77 years old with a full head of hair, albeit a little thinner than my 20’s.

I began taking creatine when Bill Philips introduced it as Phosphogen.

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I’m getting tired of people who teach classes and personal trainers coming here to ask basic questions.

No, you’re not undoing your gains. That doesnt exist.
You CAN train your muscles in an aerobic state, which is not going to help you keep your muscle, though. But if you’re still training in an anaerobic state, you’re fine.

No, creatine does not cause baldness in men. Genetics are the primary cause.

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I think most of the old school bodybuilders also had manual labor jobs. They were certainly more active than we are today.

Being awesome causes baldness in men. Exhibit: Me.

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This.

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Most advice really is just to squat and deadlift, so if you’re already doing this - its probably unnecessary.

Keeping T, E, and P in check helps immensely… I believe a low dose of test alone helps prevent most age-related bone loss.

What is heavy?

You were 58 yrs old, benching 100lbs and couldn’t do a pull-up. What kind of progress have you made in 2 years?

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Lol keep it up buddy, you’re becoming one of my favorite posters!

From my experience most trainers I have seen need to be here asking for help.

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Yes, but they put the cart before the horse.

Maybe they should learn a thing or two, then start teaching others.
I know you agree with it, its just asinine to have people charging others money for services that they are unqualified to provide.

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The only value that I see in a trainer, is someone to change weights.

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This has nothing to do with my workouts. Bone Builders is a class geared toward old people, most of whom have been sedentary as adults. I’m interested more because I believe I could make it a truly kick ass support group type of thing, and I have in the past enjoyed sharing what knowledge I have of fitness and diet with people who have even less.

My little contribution. If I ever get to it.

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:100:… I have cringed several times in past when “ trainers “ have asked certain questions .

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Idk how heavy the weights you plan on using in your classes are, but consider the following. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Franco Columbo, in their prime, were both working as bricklayers. Which I gotta assume has a heck of a lot of lifting moderate weights many, many times. I think they ended up doing alright.

I don’t have a good story for creative, but I’ve never seen any actual research suggesting it causes baldness, and I’ve seen a ton of research about positive health benefits, so I’d recommend it

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